best single speed bit

After doing a lot of research, I have found that the Motorworks bit (with the standard bit body) that's sold at Walmart is the best you can get while comparing price, performance and quality.

I have compared this car with the lxx Modellista with blue gears and 4.2 Pro, Charge-N-Go, iracers, MicroBlast, zip zaps, zip zaps se, Phat Boyz, Thunderbolts? sold at Big Lots, Panthers, Motorworks Nascar in the hard plastic casing, the new Motorworks Nascar with the spring suspension, Microsizers Pro with blue gears and 4.2 Pro, Road Gear sold at ShopKo and some other cheap clones.

The Motorworks bit has the following:

1) A motor similar in performance to the 4.2 Pro motor (fastest bit motor that's readily available) sold by Toyeast at Ebay for $8.60 including s/h. This car is dead on with the hopped up lxx's and Microsizers pro's in terms of acceleration and top speed.

2) It's gear ratio is equivalent to the blue gears on char-g's and zip zaps (higher acceleration/lower top speed). These are the gears you want for racing.

3) Comes with a variety of wheels, rims and attachments for your car. Depending on which car you get, the wheels are very soft, good grip rubber and come in various diameters and treads that you can't buy with any bit upgrade kit. Some cars come with slicks.

4) The best part is that these cars are only $9.88 at Walmart. If you wanted to buy a faster motor for your bit, you should really consider buying one of these instead. Only problem is that it's hardwired (shouldn't be a problem if you have a soldering iron).

5) Steer system is different with a single coil and two magnets. Unfortunately this gives it a slightly larger turning radius than two magnets and one coil simply due to the coil thickness. But you can change that by swapping wheels to compensate the turning radius. Shouldn't matter especially if you dual cell mod the car.

Hope this helps you new guys looking for a good reliable bit.

[Canadian Bit]

Originally posted by bdnunchaku
After doing a lot of research, I have found that the Motorworks bit (with the standard bit body) that's sold at Walmart is the best you can get while comparing price, performance and quality.

I have compared this car with the lxx Modellista with blue gears and 4.2 Pro, Charge-N-Go, iracers, MicroBlast, zip zaps, zip zaps se, Phat Boyz, Thunderbolts? sold at Big Lots, Panthers, Motorworks Nascar in the hard plastic casing, the new Motorworks Nascar with the spring suspension, Microsizers Pro with blue gears and 4.2 Pro, Road Gear sold at ShopKo and some other cheap clones.

The Motorworks bit has the following:

1) A motor similar in performance to the 4.2 Pro motor (fastest bit motor that's readily available) sold by Toyeast at Ebay for $8.60 including s/h. This car is dead on with the hopped up lxx's and Microsizers pro's in terms of acceleration and top speed.

2) It's gear ratio is equivalent to the blue gears on char-g's and zip zaps (higher acceleration/lower top speed). These are the gears you want for racing.

3) Comes with a variety of wheels, rims and attachments for your car. Depending on which car you get, the wheels are very soft, good grip rubber and come in various diameters and treads that you can't buy with any bit upgrade kit. Some cars come with slicks.

4) The best part is that these cars are only $9.88 at Walmart. If you wanted to buy a faster motor for your bit, you should really consider buying one of these instead. Only problem is that it's hardwired (shouldn't be a problem if you have a soldering iron).

5) Steer system is different with a single coil and two magnets. Unfortunately this gives it a slightly larger turning radius than two magnets and one coil simply due to the coil thickness. But you can change that by swapping wheels to compensate the turning radius. Shouldn't matter especially if you dual cell mod the car.

Hope this helps you new guys looking for a good reliable bit.

And yet you've not compared it with and SPBG

You mean a super perfection? I have also tried the super perfections from Toyeast on ebay. And remember that if you look closely on their ebay auctions, the chassis has "lxx" written under it. Therefore it's the same as the lxx char-g.

And yet you didn't notice that.

Also tested Initial D Tomy bit before anyone asks.

[MicroSpeed]

I think he meant "Super Bit Char-G"

Are the Super Bit Char-g's faster than the lxx, the Tomy Initial D single speed bit and the super perfections with the blue gears and the 4.2 Pro motor?

I would doubt that SPBG PCB's are any faster even though I've never tried them. It wouldn't make much sense on an engineering standpoint, to have different electrical components on PCB's for their different model r/c cars. No company would be dumb enough to do that, due to cost. That's why I thought testing the Initial D bit would suffice to represent the Tomy cars. Was I wrong in that assumption?

[ION]

Originally posted by bdnunchaku
You mean a super perfection? I have also tried the super perfections from Toyeast on ebay. And remember that if you look closely on their ebay auctions, the chassis has "lxx" written under it. Therefore it's the same as the lxx char-g.

And yet you didn't notice that.

Super perfections are made by LXX, but they are totally different machines. I believe the SP to be superior to the original LXX char-g.

Also, those motorworks cars are difficult. A little jostling around just to look at the components and the wires simply fall off of the PCB. And the antenna is glued to the pcb cover, so anytime the pcb cover is jostled, it has the ability to rip the antenna off of the pcb.

Most of the MW bodies look bad, and it is difficult to get spray paint to adhere to them.

Like you have mentioned, the motor is hard wired... not a desirable thing for most modders. The front end is so different from everything else, it can't be used with/for parts for other cars. Not to mention, the front end doesn't have suspension, that is why the MW's turning radius is so bad.

What about that tiny, tiny single speed controller?

The motorworks come with a separate controller and charger. Instead of two things to carry around, now you have three. And instead of having to carry what normally is two spare batteries around, now you have to carry 6!

The idea of being able to change rims is a great idea. But the way MW went about it, doesn't yeild that great of results.

Anyhow, I hate the MWs. After messing around with them for a couple of weeks, It was such a nice homecoming to come back to my MSPros and my SPs. You just can't beat the quality of the MS/BCGs.

I guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But the MWs are no good for racing, and they are no good for modding. So, I have to ask, what are people using them for? Even if they are only $10 bucks, that is almost enough to get a SP shipped to the states.

[JackD]

The Tomy Super BIT CHAR G's are faster than the regular BITs. The difference is very noticeable once you use high rpm motors like a 3.8, 4.0 or 4.2. I am not sure why they are faster. However, they have a very annoying tendency to continue accelerating after you lift off the go button.

[ION]

Originally posted by bdnunchaku
I would doubt that SPBG PCB's are any faster even though I've never tried them. It wouldn't make much sense on an engineering standpoint, to have different electrical components on PCB's for their different model r/c cars.

It's not the fact that they have different lines of PCBs, as much as they are advancing the technology. The BCGs with the older PCBs will probably be made for a long time because Tomy probably has a warehouse full of those 2 cent pcbs.

The SBCG PCB is the state of the art over at Tomy. I would imagine that it has a better electronic layout that would allow for more juice to the motor, and less energy wasted in heat and resistance.

Also, the SBCG chassis is redesigned. It is a bit more streamlined, which makes it lighter. A lighter chassis will improve acceleration, handling, and top speed.

I've been looking throughout the forum for this exact info concerning the more quality bits but haven't found it until now.

However, remember I wanted to include price in this comparison. You can't beat a bit with a 4.2 motor and the blue gears for only $9.88. Also I have three of these motorworks and all the wires on all the PCB's seem to be soldered pretty well. Anyway, if you can do a dual cell mod, you should be able to solder those steering wires back on with no problem.

Thanks for the info.

Oh yeah, and in terms of racing, some MW's come with slicks that are twice the width of normal wheels (front) and really soft ones with deep BMX type treads (back). You put that combination on a dual celled MW with the batteries in the chassis (1/4aaa, 1.2V 70maH, 10mm dia. x 10mm lg.) to lower the center of gravity and I can navigate around corners faster than two speed bits. Of course you can do the exact same mods to the other bits (if you can find those wheels) or simply change the driving surface, but I just wanted to say that these Motorworks aren't worthless.

[ION]

The lack of a front suspension dooms the MWs from ever being a car that handles well.

You have three MWs? For that price, you can have two SPs!

The one great thing about the MWs, is that you can easily convert the battery powered charger into an outlet powered charger. Everything else will end up in the trash.

Actually, I got three MW for the price of one. In regards to the suspension, like I said before, I can get a better turning radius than the 2-speed lxx (dual celled) after I replace the wheels. I'm not sure about the super bit char-g, but the lxx has the same steering and chassis body as the other bits.

Crap, I forgot the biggest plus for the Motorworks! ION you have to agree with me on this. Not only do you get the stuff I mentioned before but also a stand alone charger for NiMh batteries. And the best part, it has enough juice to charge your dual cell car.

The motor, wheels and dual cell NiMh charger for that price isn't that bad of a deal.

[Comrade_Boris]

the superperfectionshave a 250mAh batt in them........and 3.2s stock