latest NML gimmick

theMonster · #1 12-12-2003, 04:08 PM

This is his motor, which I hear is good....a drift kit, 4 batteries and a 5th cell...for $40...better than before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=2565

neurokinetik · #2 12-12-2003, 04:33 PM

I like what he's doing but this one bugs me...

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Get some serious increase in horsepower with this upgrade, for a lot less. This less expensive speed concoction of mine will surprise the other racers who just dropped some serious duckets on their power plant.

Just when the other racer thought by paying $50.00, $60.00, $80.00 for a motor, nobody will keep up with him , you come out with this, FOR A LOT LESS!

Imagine that, you racing with the other guy who spent half of his life savings on a motor, only to find out, that you are on the same speed level as him!!

Hmm, but who did they buy those $50, $60 motors from?

I do like the price a bit better, but I'm still not convinced that I want to go more than 4 cell.

Se7en · #3 12-12-2003, 04:53 PM

I still don't know the top speed of the motor because my house is too small and it's been raining outside everyday. I'll say this though, it's too fast for indoors. I keep crashing into stuff my body is wasted.

PocketKeichi · #4 12-12-2003, 06:57 PM

hey neurokinetik, the six cell mod has worked well for me for about a month and a half with out any problems. Thats with stock fets, I do however use the NML XMODS motor from ebay. If you live on a fixed income up to and including social security or un-employment then this motor isn't for you. If however, you want one of the fastest 1:28 scale rc's on the planet, then there is no substitute! (yes even the spinbrush in it's many forms can't touch it) I'm sure someone could throw together parts from various motors and come up with something close or even better, but if constructing a hand wound modified motor is beyond you? Then this is the best alternative I have yet found. This is simply my opinion and is in no way a sales pitch, it's just a setup that has worked for me, and well!

neurokinetik · #5 12-12-2003, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by PocketKeichi
If you live on a fixed income up to and including social security or un-employment then this motor isn't for you. If however, you want one of the fastest 1:28 scale rc's on the planet, then there is no substitute! (yes even the spinbrush in it's many forms can't touch it) I'm sure someone could throw together parts from various motors and come up with something close or even better, but if constructing a hand wound modified motor is beyond you? Then this is the best alternative I have yet found. This is simply my opinion and is in no way a sales pitch, it's just a setup that has worked for me, and well!

All I have to say, is that I could have easily dropped the $50+ on an NML motor if I wanted to, but I would rather come up with something on my own. I'll admit that I've got way more invested in my trial-and-error motor setups than I would have buying an off-the-shelf motor, but to me, the satifaction comes in building something yourself. Not paying others to do it for you. If you buy an off-the-shelf motor, so can everybody else. Now where's the competitive advantage that you just paid $50 or more for? My goal is to build something that is superior to the NML motor, despite the huge advantages he has (more experience, a comm lathe, etc.). Then and only then will I be satisfied. Oh, and I want to do it on 4 cells, too. Six cells is too easy, and doesn't work for anything but drag racing. These cars are top-heavy enough already. The only way I'll go six cell is if Slugbugg's chassis comes through.

xmodpower · #6 12-13-2003, 12:47 AM

not to burst your bubbles, but notice these motors are NOT wound by him, and are not the real deal...

I wish he would go ahead and make some real ones already...

theMonster · #7 12-13-2003, 01:59 AM

well, it's obvious by what I've seen out of him, that he's only out to make a buck....folks like nerokinetik and bad company try stuff out and post faqs on how we too can do these mods. NML only posts when he has something to sell. Speaking of.....I'll be posting a message begging for help because my 6-cell is f---ed up somehow.....

Rez · #8 12-13-2003, 03:47 PM

Does your brain hurt when people call an additional battery "NOS" or a certain type of battery "high octane" or is it just me?

PocketKeichi · #9 12-13-2003, 03:54 PM

Not everyone is capable of building a motor by hand. Are you guys trying to say that Calloway, Saleen, and the like are just trying to cash in on performance motoring? You bet! But I'd like to see the average person build a faster engine with as much reliablity. There is something to be said for experience. I'm not trying to say that one shouldn't try to experiment and come up with something new, quite the contrary! Where would great engine/motor builders be, if they didn't try? But again some people are new to this game and quite frankly lack the skill (or perhaps the willingness or confidence to try) to build a high end performance electric motor. Does that mean we should belittle them and bash the ones who would provide them with a performance option? This seems highly against the entire XMODS community ideal. Besides, if you were to participate in a sanctioned event, you would most likely be required to run a stock configuration, allowing the drivers skill to shine rather than there pocket book!

Just food for thought...

PocketKeichi · #10 12-13-2003, 04:02 PM

Am I the only one who sometimes imagines him/herself behind the wheel of the tiny car as it completes a flawless drift into a straight away destroying the competition? Whats wrong with a little real world comparison? Obviously these little plastic toys aren't internal combustion, and the reference to NOS on a scientific level is ridiculous, but come on whats wrong with calling higher mah/voltage batteries "high octane"? Maybe you should ask yourself why are you even playing with TOYS while having no imagination!

theMonster · #11 12-13-2003, 04:16 PM

yeah, not everyone can build a motor themselves or want to, but $50 for a motor that has about $3 or less in parts is just stupid.

I got the 6-cell setup to work and it is now crazy fast with the stage 2 yellow. The previous problem of lack of acceleration is gone! The only thing is that you have to let up off of the throttle a little bit before you turn or else it will surely roll.

Another thing, BAH HUMBUG on his "special" batteries. My Rayovac IC#s measure at 1.45V each with 850mA. I doubt his batteries are better than that! I'm now running 8.7V YEEEEHAAAAAAW!!!!!

aperson · #12 12-13-2003, 04:36 PM

is he selling just motors? or entire chassis?

SonicKuz · #13 12-13-2003, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by theMonster
yeah, not everyone can build a motor themselves or want to, but $50 for a motor that has about $3 or less in parts is just stupid.

I got the 6-cell setup to work and it is now crazy fast with the stage 2 yellow. The previous problem of lack of acceleration is gone! The only thing is that you have to let up off of the throttle a little bit before you turn or else it will surely roll.

Another thing, BAH HUMBUG on his "special" batteries. My Rayovac IC#s measure at 1.45V each with 850mA. I doubt his batteries are better than that! I'm now running 8.7V YEEEEHAAAAAAW!!!!!

Can you measure them while under load?

theMonster · #14 12-13-2003, 07:39 PM

I've got a $300 Fluke Meter so I'm sure I can, just give me an idea of how and I'll do it!

SonicKuz · #15 12-13-2003, 07:45 PM

I don't know how to. I have an idea of measuring full throttle with different batteries, such as at the motor wires, but that only tell how much the ESC puts out. It could help settle the debate of alkaline vs. NiMH vs. NiCd vs. LiPo.