
01-04-2003, 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by arceeguy
Awesome work man! (But you should've done a '87 Regal Grand National )
My son got a Hot Wheels "car factory" for xmas.
I wonder if homemade molds can be made to make custom Bit bodies........
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I might get around to making a GN. I love those cars. Late 70s- early 80s Cutlass, Monte Carlos, Regals, T-Birds, Trans Ams 60s Mustangs... any kind of American sports sedan type body, I'm going to look into making.
The car factory, yeah I'll have to look into that. I want to make some type of mold. I've got some ideas- would be harder than sculpting bodies, but If I could come up with something that you could just pour epoxy into and it would make some kind of "blank" car body, then the finish sculpting and sanding could be done. This could save time in the longrun.
Anyway back to the current project... I'm getting there. I've added the headlights and the side mirrors that still need to be shaped. Just need the windows which I plan to make out of clear plastic (Kit Racer packages should work for this) and just glue in before the final coat. Then a Cat5 antenna mod and small rear wheel mod to the 45Mhz clone chassis I'm using for this and moving on to the next project.
Oh yeah! and staples going vertical for the front grill. The real Regal GS has a painted front grill, but this things going have a crome-looking grill.
Last edited by AJFoot; 01-04-2003 at 10:39 AM.
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01-04-2003, 11:40 AM
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Nice work so far,
anyways, try looking at this website for moldmaking, and instead of pouring plastic into the molds, you can pour epoxy.
By the way, how did you make the lines on your hood?
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01-04-2003, 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by t-squared
Nice work so far,
anyways, try looking at this website for moldmaking, and instead of pouring plastic into the molds, you can pour epoxy.
By the way, how did you make the lines on your hood?
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What website? Did you mean here TinyRC?
I added the lines with a combination of: the point of a small file and a nail.
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01-04-2003, 05:59 PM
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Can't wait to see the finished product. You will need a proper "3.8" motor for it though.
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01-04-2003, 07:31 PM
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01-05-2003, 07:44 PM
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how about a vacuum mold
i got the vacuum molding machine. im looking for some hotwheels to drop into it to see how they come out. if all goes well i should be able to make just about any type of car... minus the paint.. just clear bodys. like the lexan or poly bodys for the larger r/c's
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01-06-2003, 07:57 AM
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Re: how about a vacuum mold
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Originally posted by Spanky
i got the vacuum molding machine. im looking for some hotwheels to drop into it to see how they come out. if all goes well i should be able to make just about any type of car... minus the paint.. just clear bodys. like the lexan or poly bodys for the larger r/c's
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Let us know how this works out.
t-squared,
Thanks for that link. I'm going to look into trying some of that stuff with the mold making.
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01-06-2003, 08:05 AM
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I wrote up a kind of a how-to and guidelines for this project.
Parts and Materials:
2 part epoxy resin- sold in hobby shops, hardware stores... Avoid the stuff sold in a double syringe type tube (I can't seem to get the right amounts out of these!) And remember this stuff doubles as glue.
Bondo or auto body filler (optional) - you don't want to use this for the main mass of material for your body, just meant for evening out surfaces and air holes that might have developed in your resin.
Primer- I use an automotive lacquer primer that is sand able. Avoid using lacquer on most plastics including factory Bit bodies. It melts plastic! Ok on the epoxy.
Your favorite hobby or model paint- use light coats like recommended and use a clear coat on top for a glossy finish
Masking tape and/or clear cellophane (Scotch) tape- for masking and for holding together parts of your body etc.
Light cardboard- if you plan on making a paper model first to apply the epoxy to. Make sure it can go through your printer if you plan on using the technique of designing your model on your computer.
Tools Misc:
Small needle files or hobby files- I got a set of 10 different shapes from a hobby store for 7 bucks. These are the most valuable tools for this project!
Exacto/Hobby knife-this comes in handy for general trimming and shaving also for cutting out you cardboard model.
Nails, screws and other pokers and scrapers found around the house.
Sandpaper
Optional Tools:
Computer and 3d and/or 2d paint program - You're on your own for this!
Dremel/rotory tool- useful for general drilling, sanding, and tooling of your epoxy body, but be careful. This is very small stuff you're working on and nothing can ruin an afternoon like an out of control Dremel!
Clamps hobby vises- for holding things or clamping pieces together for gluing. I got a cool little plastic vise at the dollar store- comes in handy.
I'll just start after your paper model has been designed, cut out and assembled. Make sure the paper model fits your Bit chassis. The only other thing about using a paper model is: it doesn't have to be too perfect or too detailed just a basic shape is all that's needed. It's just a form to apply the epoxy to.
The epoxy I use is about the consistency of maple syrup, so you can't really mold it like clay. Use a small brush to "paint" the entire outside of your paper model. (work fast... sets up quick!) Apply several coats (let each coat set up in between) You want to build up enough epoxy, so that you have lots of spare material to sand down and sculpt. at least a 1/16th of an inch (couple mm) When you get enough built up on the outside, start adding layers to the inside or bottom of the model. at this point you might want to remove your paper mold. Try wetting it and scrape it out, or just leave it, but it may get in your way later.
At this point you should have a little hunk of plastic that somewhat resembles a car. Start filing the outside and start to shape your Bit shell. Use photos of the car your making for reference. Also, draw lines with a pen or pencil as guides for shaping. For instance: draw the angle of the windshield on the profile of the model or the bumper so you know how far to sand to. You may find you filed something down too far or your shell is getting too thin just add more epoxy and let cure.
At this point you should have a good shape for your car. Now try and make it fit your Bit chassis. Determine where the tabs that hold a shell (one in front one in back) on a chassis go on the inside of your shell and mark them. Also you might need to file out your wheel wells at this point to be able to line up the tabs. Just put the shell on the chassis draw guidelines for the wheels and file down what needs to be in order to make it fit with proper wheel clearance. A Dremel may come in handy for this. You might have to do this several times to get a proper fit. This is still kind of a guessing game at this point, so if you screw up you can always add more epoxy and start over. So everything is lining up a this point; the body fits the chassis and you cut out the tab holes in the shell and you can pop the body on and off just like a real Bit shell...Right?. If not make it fit, make it drivable at this point.
Your car body should fit at this point and should roughly resemble what you're trying to make. Next spray on the primer let dry. At this point you want to draw precise details like: the windows, headlights, doors, etc... You have to do some precise sanding and filing to finish shaping your car. You may choose to cut out the windows and shape the holes and leave them empty or cut out thin plastic pieces later you can glue in for windows. I found it easier to make the side mirrors and glue them on after most of the body was shaped and also cut out the headlights and glued in clear plastic for headlights. To make the bodylines like the seams between doors, hoods, and fenders I drew the lines on and used the tip of a small hobby file and a small nail to cut into the surface. If you screw up you can use Bondo or more epoxy to fill in your mistakes and start again.
Hopefully at this point your car is all smooth and has all the contours and detail you want. I use layers of the lacquer primer to help smooth and define details. Just spray it on sand/file and repeat. final sand your model with like #600 grit sand paper or sanding film and paint/finish with hobby model paint.
I hope this is somewhat helpful for anybody who wants to try this. Remember, there might be something I didn't describe very well and there are other techniques for doing this kind of stuff. It isn't exactly easy, but it was fun for me and it was at least practice for making better Bit bodies in the future. If you try this good luck and I hope you come up with your own kind of process and techniques that work well for you and at least have fun like I did.
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01-06-2003, 08:24 AM
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Here's my homemade Buick Regal GS Bit shell drying after the final coat of paint. Still need to do some fine detail painting and add the front grill and maybe an exhaust. I'll post a pic when it's totally finished, hopefully with a better camera.
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01-07-2003, 06:05 PM
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Well, I'm done...
I'm kind of dissapointed with the way my car turned out. I rushed the final stages of the fine detail painting, but I can always redo it I guess. With the low res of my camera it looks kinda good though!
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01-07-2003, 06:23 PM
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Great Job man, I admire the hard work you put into that and the fact you stuck with it till the end. Way 2 go.
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01-07-2003, 06:40 PM
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You're being too critical of your own work, I think it looks great. Just think, you're the ONLY one with a '88 Regal coupe!
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01-07-2003, 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by AJFoot
Well, I'm done...
I'm kind of dissapointed with the way my car turned out. I rushed the final stages of the fine detail painting, but I can always redo it I guess. With the low res of my camera it looks kinda good though!
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AJFoot,
Are you crazy?!?!?!
 That's an awesome job, man! I would leave it like it is.
I wish I had just a fraction of your talent & determination!
Congrats!
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01-07-2003, 07:21 PM
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AJFoot that's amazing, since you made the whole thing from scratch!
just wondering, are you gonna make another cars anytime soon?
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01-08-2003, 10:16 AM
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AJ, that is a relay kool car:kudos. Next u should make like a Corvette or a Porshce, or maybe even a muscle car like a 70 Chevelle or a Duster. I was thinking, u could sell custom bodies over the net, people will prolly pay ALOT of money for a 1 of a kind AJfoot Bit bod (like 50 or 60 bux ((maybe))).
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