Motor windings findings

[Bash_N_Thrash]

Another motor to add to the list: Mini-Z Racer Z130-A-BB: 46 turns of 30Ga

I tried that motor briefly. I put the stock wiring and caps on it from a stage 2. Put the gearing from stage 2 blue. Torque is low, speed is good but takes a long time to get there. Took it out.

[neurokinetik]

Bought one of those Hoppin' Hydros Big Bad Johnson motors tonight. $5, you gotta love that. Out of the box, it will draw 1.3A on four cells. Not incredibly fast though. So of course I had to tear it apart to try to see what I could do with it.

It has 22 turns of what looks like 26Ga wire. It is also timed more like a 180 motor, with the brushes rotated quite far relative to the magnets.

The first rewind attempt, I wound it like a 130, with 12 turns of 22Ga. It was pitiful in performance, and drew a whopping 6A. If it performed at all, I would have said bag it and threw it into the FET modded car. Just to see if they could take it. My money says they could. Anyway, second attempt was wound the correct way, like a 180. I wound 25 turns of 26Ga, because at first look, it looked like the wire was 28Ga. Looking at it now, it looks like it is 26Ga. So the rewound motor is slower and draws less current. My fingers are already sore, else I'd give it another go tonight. I think I'm going back to the 22Ga wire, and see if I can get 15 turns on it, along with the correct timing.

[LiLStagg]

Nero can you helpp me out here, i want you to try somthing for me, ok could u try 45 turns of 31 gauge wre in a bb can, i have done this and its pretty fast but can you tell me if it will fry stock fets? it is a very fast motor to me with tourqe well thanks for ANY of your help

[neurokinetik]

I've run similar motors to that with no ill effects. You should be fine on the stock FETs.

[moebrown20]

Neuro, I know it has been awhile since you have been on this thread, but I would like for you to run a test for me.
26gauge silver wire, 30turns, and neo magnets.
Whats your review on that?

[Phred168]

I'd imagine ~1.5-1.7 amps if wound right.

[moebrown20]

I'm looking for 3-5 amps!
That's what I need. Got any suggestions?

[jon.jon]

Originally posted by moebrown20
I'm looking for 3-5 amps!
That's what I need. Got any suggestions?

"3-5 amps" what size cells are you using, Cs?

I got a suggestion use a 16D motor like the one you have in your avatar Im sure you can get that bad boy to pull what you want 3 amps minimum on the 16D

[moebrown20]

Originally posted by jon.jon
"3-5 amps" what size cells are you using, Cs?

I got a suggestion use a 16D motor like the one you have in your avatar Im sure you can get that bad boy to pull what you want 3 amps minimum on the 16D

When I got it, it was pulling 4 amps minimum!
I took it apart, cut it down so that it fits a 130! It only pulls about 2.2 now. I have a 16D in my ford focus, it's not green like the picture(the green one I cut up so the 130 would fit) it's black. Lots of torque but low rpm's, have to do it over when I finish my "XZ" project.

[jon.jon]

what was you using for power?

[moebrown20]

I was using 4 lithium-ions (7.4 volts) each batt was about 1500 mAh. I had to put a cut off switch on the batteries so I wouldn't go below the 2.9v.
I rather use a modified 30 turn 280. Less modification (just heatsink & drive shaft)
What do you have in your car(s)?

[jon.jon]

start with the white CTS, plasma dash amature neo magnets bearing can and endcap the other end the civic this is my newest creation that has really fast, speed bearings it has the Team Orion modified core amature 40 turn inside of a 180 toothbrush can and plasma dash endcap with bearings this suckas way faster than the PD motor setup last but not least the middle is a team orion elite modified coreless motor I cant give no description on this except for all the hype about brushless motors should be included with this motor unbelivable performance unbelievable speed and unbelievable torque.

I have one question for you how much bigger is the 16D amature compared to a 180 if not the same size?

[moebrown20]

Nice cars! the 16D shaft is longer about 3.5 to 4.5 mm(I did this by eye) their is no other difference in it that I see (I did a switch and it worked!).
I have a 280 Modified Motor I use in my ford focus(1/24 strech) when I go out drag racing. I have a pic of ford with a 130, 30turn silver hemi wind. Plus a beefed up turbo. Post it in a sec.

[moebrown20]

here it is.

[jon.jon]

WHOA I love your power plant!!!