
12-03-2003, 07:04 PM
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well the stage one and twos appear to have the same size magnets, winds is different on the armature, but the stage two motors have a stronger magnets, which to me should make more torque, considering the magnets on the sping brush motor are even stronger and the car has tons of torque.
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12-03-2003, 09:38 PM
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Xmod Modifier
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New Project Motor
Today at work I found this motor I pulled out of a broken R/C car. it was for a wrench on this R/c truck. It just happens to be a TMC motor (big surprize, not really ) so Guess what I'll be doing? YEP, I'll be swapping it into my supra and runnig it. I'll have a motor motor in addition to my Modified SBP motor which I still love. I'ma call this new motor TMC-X for experimental I'll keep yall updated of this post.
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XMOD 1997 Red Toyota Supra //LED kit//Skyline Rims//
Blown White Stock Stage 1 motor (RIP)
Modified SBP High Torque Drift Motor
8 tooth pinion (lightened)
Nasty sleeper paint job
5th cell N-cell (rare) mod!!!
Pioneer in SBP 5th n-cell Technology.
4 IC3's 800mah Batteries & 1 n-cell (RS)
Silver RSX (Scraped Skyline and RSX)
Made from returned broken cars.
RSX and Supra Rims
All stock skyline chasis shortened to fit RSX.
Uses an RSX shaft and Broken limited slip gear.
White 6 cell Supra SBP II Hybred With unknown magnets... Bearings and oil cooled. Too fast! Eats tires
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12-04-2003, 09:27 PM
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TinyRC Pro
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I know people are suggesting the 8 tooth pinion for balance (if I remember correctly) but has anybody tested the results with the different gearing? Like 20ft times & 50ft times to see how acceleration & top end are affected?
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12-04-2003, 10:17 PM
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i have a post where I did 50 foot times, I haven't been able to do highspeed test yet cause it is rainy here, and I don't have any where inside big enough to test.
I tested the spin brush motor with an 11 tooth pinion and it had the best 50 foot times, I guess If I used a lower gear with it I would probably see better 50 fot times. But I want to have some top end as well as take off
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12-04-2003, 11:42 PM
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TinyRC Pro
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I saw that post. I'm actually curious regarding 20ft or less times because 50ft imho is long enough for a lower geared car to get a jump, but reach its limit, whereas a higher geared car would lack the start up speed but be able to catch up at the top end.
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12-22-2003, 10:41 PM
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SBP MOTOR HELP!!!!
i will pay someone 15 dollars shipped if they will build me a motor im scared to build one and id rather you pros do this for me i will send the stock SBP motor if needed but someone please help me!!!!!!!!
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12-23-2003, 11:27 AM
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I will build you one.... You can reach me at ethier AIM:Spikegargar or Email Gcarter5@hotmail.com
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XMOD 1997 Red Toyota Supra //LED kit//Skyline Rims//
Blown White Stock Stage 1 motor (RIP)
Modified SBP High Torque Drift Motor
8 tooth pinion (lightened)
Nasty sleeper paint job
5th cell N-cell (rare) mod!!!
Pioneer in SBP 5th n-cell Technology.
4 IC3's 800mah Batteries & 1 n-cell (RS)
Silver RSX (Scraped Skyline and RSX)
Made from returned broken cars.
RSX and Supra Rims
All stock skyline chasis shortened to fit RSX.
Uses an RSX shaft and Broken limited slip gear.
White 6 cell Supra SBP II Hybred With unknown magnets... Bearings and oil cooled. Too fast! Eats tires
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12-23-2003, 11:38 AM
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RACE RESULTS
Stage II Vs SBP 5th N-cell Results....
My car is geared horribly wrong, because I have drift gears on a high torque motor which pretty much destory's all hopes of having a good top end. I raced my friend at work on a flat smooth surface in the mall. We both have supras but I have the 5th N-cell SBP motor setup. I thought that I'd take off and get a jump but he'd come back but actually I got a good jump on him a held it for a while he caught up as we where running outta range but couldn't pass. they have even top end. So basically the SBP motor is going to just give you allot more torque, I also have a way longer battery life than a stage two motor even thoI'm using more batteries, if I remove my N-cell I still run about the same speed but my top end isn't as good. I think the n-cell doesn't carry as much amperage as a AAA battery so I might switch it over to a IC3 AAA then it should haul. I cannot wait till I get enuff money to get the ACura RSX runnin, and a new supra. I love my first supra but it has been wrecked so many times I need somthing fresh for show purposes. My supra is now gunmeatal and very pretty. I almost hate driving it because it was loose control really easily from wheel spin. I've lost it into mall posts plenty of times to know I need some new grip.
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XMOD 1997 Red Toyota Supra //LED kit//Skyline Rims//
Blown White Stock Stage 1 motor (RIP)
Modified SBP High Torque Drift Motor
8 tooth pinion (lightened)
Nasty sleeper paint job
5th cell N-cell (rare) mod!!!
Pioneer in SBP 5th n-cell Technology.
4 IC3's 800mah Batteries & 1 n-cell (RS)
Silver RSX (Scraped Skyline and RSX)
Made from returned broken cars.
RSX and Supra Rims
All stock skyline chasis shortened to fit RSX.
Uses an RSX shaft and Broken limited slip gear.
White 6 cell Supra SBP II Hybred With unknown magnets... Bearings and oil cooled. Too fast! Eats tires
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12-25-2003, 10:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MicroRCTuner
Can you run a SB Motor on Stock ESC and everything and not fry your electronics? because I want a fast reliable long lasting motor to switch my stock with..PS: Do any of you do SB Hyrbid Conversions? S2 Parts Mixed with SB Parts..I hear it really livens things up
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Yes, and yes. Hybrids are the best setup, IMO.... With the right combination (ie spin brush magnets, stage 2 arm with 5 turns removed, and timing advanced), you can have something that has the same top end as a stock stage 2, but with a much stronger midrange and low end, and sill be safe on the stock ESC.
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12-26-2003, 12:32 AM
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Yeah, it'll be fine.
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12-27-2003, 08:19 AM
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Hybird SBP motor
I would only make a Hybird SBP motor, otherwise it's not going to be as good and easy to bulid. I raced my SBP supra against a stock one.... It was funny.
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XMOD 1997 Red Toyota Supra //LED kit//Skyline Rims//
Blown White Stock Stage 1 motor (RIP)
Modified SBP High Torque Drift Motor
8 tooth pinion (lightened)
Nasty sleeper paint job
5th cell N-cell (rare) mod!!!
Pioneer in SBP 5th n-cell Technology.
4 IC3's 800mah Batteries & 1 n-cell (RS)
Silver RSX (Scraped Skyline and RSX)
Made from returned broken cars.
RSX and Supra Rims
All stock skyline chasis shortened to fit RSX.
Uses an RSX shaft and Broken limited slip gear.
White 6 cell Supra SBP II Hybred With unknown magnets... Bearings and oil cooled. Too fast! Eats tires
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01-24-2004, 09:01 AM
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TinyRC Newbie
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Hi everyone, I'm new to Xmods, new meaning I haven't opened mine yet  . I read this whole thread, and with all the opinions flying around, it's a little confusing to know what I want to do....I have an Acura RSX, and I just took apart a Spinbrush motor. I'm going for the fastest I can get without losing too much torque, and I have very little soldering skills, and no access to a pinion puller. Any instructions for me?
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01-25-2004, 11:09 AM
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To the Newbie
Get the gear off of a RS motor is the hardest thing ever. I use the back of two hammers really carfully. the gear is always going to get kinda ate up on one side but that's ok. it takes practice to learn how to pull it off. I suggest just trying hammers and pliers till you get it down pat. You will never lose torque with a SBP motor only gain
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XMOD 1997 Red Toyota Supra //LED kit//Skyline Rims//
Blown White Stock Stage 1 motor (RIP)
Modified SBP High Torque Drift Motor
8 tooth pinion (lightened)
Nasty sleeper paint job
5th cell N-cell (rare) mod!!!
Pioneer in SBP 5th n-cell Technology.
4 IC3's 800mah Batteries & 1 n-cell (RS)
Silver RSX (Scraped Skyline and RSX)
Made from returned broken cars.
RSX and Supra Rims
All stock skyline chasis shortened to fit RSX.
Uses an RSX shaft and Broken limited slip gear.
White 6 cell Supra SBP II Hybred With unknown magnets... Bearings and oil cooled. Too fast! Eats tires
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01-25-2004, 02:04 PM
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TinyRC Newbie
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I tried it with pliers on the stock motor, and all that happened was that the gear got all mangled, and the armature somehow got loose inside the can, like it moves back and forth. Also, when I put it back in the car unchanged, I lost a lot of speed. That may be because the antenna soldering came off, but logic dictates that that would only affect range...it's a good thing I have the Stage 2 upgrades....
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