zipzap or microsizer? what to get ?

Takevin · #1 10-04-2002, 08:45 PM

Hello, im new to this, i was all set to get a zipzap, but now going thru this forum, im not so sure anymore if i should now get a microsizer. From reading the posts here, the size is different, are the micros faster, less weight/ range, availability to upgrade? What are your guys and gals opinions and why so i can decide. thankyou

ps does anyone have a video of either in action?

Takevin · #2 10-04-2002, 09:05 PM

does no one here have an opinion or comment about either or?

DJ_Mo · #3 10-04-2002, 09:08 PM

Well I was at the same boat as you, but I already own a Microsizer. I bought my ZipZaps yesterday with the FF kit. I have to tell ya I hate the ZipZaps : very slow car, slighly larger than the microsizer. ONLY thing decent about them was the cool FF kit and the real cheap upgrades (rims, wheels etc).

After extensive shopping, the Tomy BitChar-G/Hobbico Microsizers seems to be the best RC value and high level of fun. The cars have a very nice high quality constructions, and TONS and TONS of upgrades available for it. From US Microsizers sets, Japanese Tomy Bit Char-G to custom stuff with wealth of info on it. All the parts just work better on a Microsizer.

Get yourself a Microsizer from this website, and enjoy !! Soon you can add whatever parts and stuff you want to. And the way this hobby is going both Tomy and Hobbico is going to bring in more stuff

. Heck someone in here could make in some serious cash by making FF body kits for the Microsizers

. (I would try it, but I suck at painting).

Hope this helps.

headhunter555 · #4 10-04-2002, 10:05 PM

i got a ZZ and like it thats all i have i cant compare it to anything else, but the big thing is the ZZs just need weight savings and they will whup but,

i like mine.

latency · #5 10-04-2002, 10:40 PM

From what I have read the Micros are faster. But to me that is boring. I like the challenge of tweaking these babies. Besides, many races do not come down to speed, but to who can take the best lines, and control their car the best.

Seeing a Micro whoop up on a ZZ would not surprise me, but when you see a ZZ whoop up on a micro, I immediately give props to that guy. Not only could he drive, but he likely had a ton of mods.

I guess it all comes to preference really. I am more of a purist, and the Micros and Chars in my opinion are not very close to scale correctness. The ZZ's are larger, but by looking at any of the bodies you can immediately tell what car it is...not the case for me with the micro/chars. I also think the ZZ cars have more realistic handling and because they are larger are a bit more challenging to drive.

Just my $.02 though.

mechanist · #6 10-04-2002, 11:03 PM

I like the ZZs so far. It was a cheap way for me to get into this hobby and try it out. I'm still just poking around and trying it out and I think of it and they are great for that.

I've got one of each frequency and a handful of the accessories to mess with. They've been a lot of fun so far.

I'll probably grab one of the Tomy Bits here at a hobby shop. Hopefully on a different freq. than the ZZs just so I can mess with the Bit accessories as well.

Takevin · #7 10-05-2002, 01:07 AM

thankyou guys for your opinions, after an exhausive stint of reading as many replies on the forum for bit char and zz. Im going to go with a zz to start out with, later on a bit char. My friend who owns a pt cruiser is of course getting one, so i would like to get a zz, probably the porsche or honda.

MTL · #8 10-05-2002, 02:28 AM

i have both, but i had my Bitcharg first...
the ZZ is a good buy...20$ is chump change to some...
and if u buy a MSizer....u can buy the FFZZ sets, and use the rims and gears..its a plus

only thing about the ZZ i dont like is ...only a few cars look good in my opinon, and those are the Eclipse, Supra, and well...thats really it...the rest are just deformed...not in a cute deformed way like the Bits, but in a "what the___" way

VDOGG · #9 10-05-2002, 05:41 AM

ZZ's are new...People are just now figuring out the best mods...There will be aftermarket parts (besides the ones radio shack sells), and they will be WAY more popular than bits...Why? Because they are available in every town (every town has a radio shack right??), just give the ZZ's a little time to catch up!!!

-Vince

MicroVader · #10 10-05-2002, 09:18 PM

We got 2 zips and a Microsizer at work. We have a
make-shift track on a table in the back room and the zips
work better in that space. We're new to this so that opinion
may change with time, who knows.

The stock zip is far easier to control vs. the stock Microsizer.
The zip makes nice wider natural turns where the Microsizer
make very sharp and tight turns. I've read here that
the Microsizer can be tweaked to get more natural steering
but I haven't had time to try that yet.

The Microsizer is way faster and seems to have better
climbing ability. I don't like the small wheels on the front
and the shorter cartoony body.

The zips don't have any cool bodies yet other than the Fast
and Furious kit but I like the fact they are 1/64 and can use
a slot car body so I'm hopeful there.

I ordered a 35mhz bit from Japan and I hope to convert it
to a Zip once I get it so we can race 3 cars at once.

~Chris

p.s. I posted this link in another post but here it is again.
An avi of our 2 zips racing on the table at work. 5.6 MB

http://www.flashpoint-dms.com/cars/race2.avi

Mattydiah · #11 10-06-2002, 05:01 AM

I got a ZZ PT Cruiser a week or so ago, and I really love it. In stock form, its kinda slow, but the handling can't be beat. I got the FF upgrade today and I can honestly say its very quick!!

On my linoleum floor, its almost too fast to handle, it flips over and spins out alot. It would be more controllable on a better surface, but still very quick.

The best thing though, about ZZ's is they are cheap and readily availiable. If you were to mess one up beyond all repair, you could just go to your local Radio Shack and pick up a new one cheap. With BC's, you have to import them, and Microsizers are pretty much limited to hobby shops now, and lots of them dont even carry MS'ers.

Basically, what I'm saying is, I like my ZZ, and I dont regret not getting a BCG or a MSer. Like someone said above me, just wait, the ZZ's are only a week old, as time goes on, more and more mods will come out, and you will be able to run with the best of em, no sweat!

Takevin · #12 10-06-2002, 10:29 AM

yea, i held off yesterday buying a sizer, but unfortunetly, every radio shack, i called about 10 plus, are near completely sold out of the zz's, the only ones that have some in stock are the pts and mustangs{shudder}, i have a life size transam so its against my nature to get a ford zz, hehe. The one i would like to get is a porsche or black honda zz, get the ff kit too. Ill just have to wait till they do a restock. I live here near chicago in the burbs, everyone is getting these cars.

SteelBluePT · #13 10-06-2002, 02:28 PM

I would say zipzap just for convenience and the similarity of the two. Plus I prefer the zz (having never owned another tinyr/c though) because its closer to scale-looking. I own a PT Cruiser and getting the Blue PT Cruiser body of the zips was a no-brainer for me. I think its great, runs well, I bought a FF upgrade kit and love the performance of it. Im trying to find another PT Cruiser zip in 27mhz but haven't been able to find one, just the one I got a cpl weeks ago. This is my first time getting into the tiny r/c's---I used to race 1/10 scale a while back and have recently got back into the whole r/c thing---love the small ones for convenience and speed of charging/running, its great. Good Luck!

tuner00 · #14 10-06-2002, 02:35 PM

Funny... the last RadioShack I visited had 40+ ZipZaps on the shelves, fast and furious bodies, tracks, etc. (porsches, pt cruisers, mustangs).

I want the black and blue civic. Too bad they didn't have it. I did buy all their grand prix tracks. My son and I are having a blast with these. Also want one of those F&F upgrade kit to get the motors. Darn!

Takevin · #15 10-06-2002, 05:03 PM

i guess it depends on where you live, one radioshack put out a bunch sat, they were gone in a short time.