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Short1mgb 11-05-2002 01:06 AM

4wd on a bit
 
Has anyone ever tried putting 4 wheel drive on a bit i was thinking about it and if its possible to put rubber band between axels or a seprate motor all to gether for the front wheels. it requires removing the suspension i know that but if i get a new bit im gonna do it i aint messin with my mazda rx-7 that thing is a beast but if i can get it to work im gonna do it on mazda its gonna be mad speed if i can get it to work

Short1mgb 11-05-2002 01:08 AM

Any ideas highly recomended i need the help of you electronics gurus out there to get it so theres even a possiblility for it to work

GT-ahh 11-05-2002 01:45 AM

it would be insanely hard to give the front wheels power and still have steering, you couldnt put a motor up front cause it would stuff with the steering magnet. maybe make up some sort of cat track, like on a tank to externally drive the wheels....

MTL 11-05-2002 02:18 AM

hm...DO THIS ON A CLONE, NOT YOUR BELOVED BIT
some cars have 2 motors...like the digiQ i beleve...
one motor is faced one way in the front, and another motor is faced the opposite direction on the rear, which is standard..

i havent done this, but i thought about it....
what you would have to do is remove all of the steering junk like steering coils, steering magnet thingy...and front rims itself...
youll probably have to modify you front so that you can fit axles on them with a idle gear also...
but then comes the problem with making both motors turn on when you go forward/reverse...im sure there is a way....
when your car turns, one motor goes backward, while the other goes forward...depending on which way you turn...

although this isnt considered 4 wheel drive..its more like dual motor drive :D

Short1mgb 11-05-2002 10:35 AM

Dont worry MTL theres no way im messin with my pride and joy mazda rx-7

Short1mgb 11-05-2002 10:39 AM

What if you could set the steering magnet back some i had an old rc car that was set up with the steering accually 2 inches from the accual axel ill put up a diagram in my next post

Short1mgb 11-05-2002 10:47 AM

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Heres a quick diagram i cam up with ill try and show you a better picture of what i want when its not moving

Short1mgb 11-05-2002 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GT-ahh
it would be insanely hard to give the front wheels power and still have steering, you couldnt put a motor up front cause it would stuff with the steering magnet. maybe make up some sort of cat track, like on a tank to externally drive the wheels....
i could get like 4 motors on a tank one for each wheel lol but i like a challange so guess what im gonna do it like a regular car but first ill try to make a tank it could be a bit easier and good practice

Short1mgb 11-05-2002 02:01 PM

Re: so many different micro cars
 
Quote:

Originally posted by slugbugg
I picked up a bit clone well actually it would more of a zipzap clone at TOYS-R-US a couple of days ago and just finally could not stand it any more and opened it up.

What I found is a hardwired motor and the whole gearing is on the oppisite side as normal bits but even more interesting is the steering setup it uses a motor that drives a gear with a pin sticking out that moves the tierod.The tierod is in front of the front axles.There is no front suspension but it has a few mm of travel almost like they left out the springs.

It has a 1.2v 1/3aaa ni-cd battery that comes out from the bottom of the chassis, the batt uses a holder for the batt that snaps in.

The motor controlled steering might make it easier to make a 4x4 bit even though it looks like it takes more room than the coil/magnet setup.

oh and this thing only cost $13.00



can you give me the name of it i

Short1mgb 11-05-2002 02:05 PM

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Heres what it should look like while its turning the black lines once again are the rubber bands not movine

Short1mgb 11-05-2002 06:45 PM

lol thanks any way

cowfish_29 11-05-2002 10:55 PM

i was thinking...has anyone ever worked with 4wd 1/10 cars?
I have a tamiya "baja champ" 4wd buggy that uses a shaft drive from the back gearing to another sealed gearbox up front.

Now, the hard part.

It would be near impossible, but you could fix the type of shafts that they use on the 1/10 scale cars (MUCH smaller) to the front knuckles of the cars (would have to have a rotating bearing or something), then to a front gearbox. The shafts would have to be able rotate in all directions, to accomadate the suspension and the steering, and how much they would have to be bent. This wold involve having to use a different steering system besides the magnets, and one of those 13 dollar toysRus cars just might do the job.

Anyone who pulls this off successfully should be considered the greatest bit char-g user alive.

Short1mgb 11-06-2002 08:10 AM

thanks for your help guys i know that right now everything is quite big but im always trying to get stuff smaller and more compact guess thats why i have tiny speakers with the power of bose lol
Slug bugg ur a geinus you totally channged my way of lookin at this if you can do you think u can get any pics of what the germans did. im going to germany in about 2 weeks and im gonna try and get some help there so thanks everyone the more information i get the better off i will be thanks

Clint 11-07-2002 06:09 AM

some necklaces are very rigid rotationally yet are flexible in all directions...why not use a link from a cheap necklace as a u joint.

Short1mgb 11-07-2002 02:57 PM

thanks guys im working one gettin the money to do this right now im broke because i just bought 2 amps and 2 15in subs for my car so i should have enuff money in a week


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