Bits vs Zipzaps
 

Hi everyone.
I just found that many say zipzaps suck vs the bits.
If you have a nos motor, would it still be slow? and what is it equal to in bit motors? answer anyone plz.
getting one of the bits or zipzaps today.
also i love the low price of the zipzaps, and the hop up parts, fast and furious bodies rule!

ZipZaps out of the box stink when it comes to speed. BUT....


They have the best chassis and handling you can get. If it's speed you want, ZZ's handle speed the best. All that it takes to get the BIt speed into a ZZ is to swap out the PCB boards. And the NOS motor is the fastest motor I own. It's just regarded as crappy cos the PCB board in the ZZ. Put that mutha in a Microsizer or Bit and it'll kill any motor. You won't be able to control the car, but it'll be fun to see. You can only make those little bits and clones go so fast before you lose control of them and just end up doing donuts all the time. ZZ's can take the speed a lot better and offer a lot better body styles without all the tape and glue the others have to use on the tires to keep their cars straight. BTW...I HATE Radio Shack! Hate it! Hate it! Hate it! But, ZZ is the best car, especially if you're really into mods and willing to swap out the PCB.

yep, I'm sitting here, working.... at radio shack. Zip zaps are entirely too huge here. 175+ namers on our list, and we only get about 20 per week.

hey do u work at radio shack??
i have some questions

yeah, I'm working right now. I'll field all questions I can.

is rs still geting out of stock wit zz fast? cuz i keep calling them if they had zz, and they say they dont, and i dont want 2 keep calling them, cuz its strange.

My store personally has a waiting list for over 160 people.
As far as I know, it's simmilar across the country. Good luck is all I can say.

are they gonna still sell some after christmas? and when do they usally get the shipments in?

Zip Zaps against others
 

im not sure if zip zaps are better than bits but zz are more reliable. my cuz has a microsizer and mine handles better and goes about the same speed.

They'll be around for quite a bit (:D) after x-mas, we get around 20 per shipment, but I've heard of other stores getting a little more than that.

would i ever see zipzaps in canada? i really want one. and wahts the deal with the cheap clones in canada? zipzaps are customizable with wicked parts, and the cyclonia here sucks!
Will canada ever get any Zipzaps? i went all over toronto to find them, but nope.

i would say zipzaps are better for handling and the fun when modding

MY Shen smokes my friends zip w/pcb swap and nos motor.The shen has the microsizer 2.6,zip red gears.

hey pakiplaya. cyclona costs a few bucks less than a zipzap and i guarantee it will spank a zz with the nos motor. and actually anyone who says that zipzaps handle better, you havnt put a better magnet in your bit/clone. im sure it would help with zipzaps as well. can you parallel park with a zipzap? my cyclona can on carpet that my zipzap wouldnt even be able to move on.

i have drag raced against a zipzap and blew it away every run.

also if you still wana get one make sure you dont get a 27mhz because you cant use it more than 5 feet away.

Ok here is my little shakedown....

Bits...

Fast out of the box
can be modded to be even faster
many many hop ups
many many bodies
great handeling(even with rare earth magnet).
many varieties to choose from(buses, anime cartoons....etc)
Where are the ferraris?....and the lamborgini's...?
Easier to find because of the so called "secretness" of them
Parents would rather spend 20 bucks than 40 :-/
Speed mods are easier
Easily finds 20$ miicrosizers at target 2...but parents dont reallt know this..


Zips........
Slow out of the box
can be modded to be faster but not comparable to a bit..
some hop ups and still arnt that great
ok bodies
great handeling
not many varieties(spongbob?........thornberry's...?!)
No skylines?!
20 bucks=good price
Kids love spongebob(hey, he can be funny...:D)
need "not so easy" mods to make them as fast as a bit.
waiting lists......

dont have em zipzaps here in canada, but i can clearly say i see bits as a smaller, faster, slick, sick, car. the zipzaps seem to be some big a$$ turtles wit some funky bodies(f&f) wit some nos, yea a nitrious turtle, lolz for life

I'm far from an expert but my bit(Tomy bit char-g)stock was slow. Comparable to my zip stock. I put a 3.0 in my bit and yeah it's fast and fun to play with but that motor has no place on track. I don't know about the rest of you but for me speed is secondary.

I know! 10,000 motor on mine, pretty sad.
I like to start comparing these things with price. I believe you get more for the money with Zips! $20 vs. $30, SO when Target dropped the Microsizers to $20 that was the big equalizer on my BOOK.
SO at the same prize, What do you get? A crappy controller on the Bit. big Buttons that CLICK! and antena that is really a WIRE?
Really cheap! My target Microsizer out of the box I slap some batteries and when I FLIP the on button it snapped inside?!?! Great!!! returned it and got a Raincheck from Target! :rolleyes:

Zip controllers is not all that but at least you get a REAL antena. and I believe that the controllers are easily modifiable. better nobs and a longer antena with things you find at home. like and old radio ETC.

As far as the cars? What's with the BIG hole on the rear window on the BITS??? Other than that the car is OK. Parts have to be mail ordered or bought at a local hobby shop! $$$

Zips are not bad either, parts are easily found at your local radio Shack ;) The only drawback I see on the Zips are the tires. The rubber tires are manufactured poorly, as a result you get uneven tires, that don't sit properly on the rims. Bit tires HUG the rim nicely.

just my 2 cents


The only thing I

well microsizers must suck compared to their clones then cuz the one im runnin right now handles better than a zip and is a lot faster. it goes straight and turns evenly in both directions. i think the zipzaps are good for a little kid who does not want to tinker too much with their stuff.

the thing is that microsizers(bits) are better, im not discriminating but thats just the way it is.......i have zip zaps too but when i got my bit..i noticed that zip zaps werent all that great...The bit controller is by far better than the zip zap controller.....(zip controllers are very uncomfortable...) and the "real" antenna on zip zaps range is veyr bad. My 27mhz bit goes faster than my zip zpa anyday. I think the long antenna on bits are better(though they swing which is stupid) than the normal zip antenna. Hogjowlz, the bit char-g is way better than their cloen counterparts its just that some of the people are stretching the truth about the cons of a microsizer. MOst clones have high torque motors which can be used in your zips and bits(sometimes!!!) but the bit is highly upgradeable and can be made faster. Zip Zaps are good and all but with as slow as the zips are with their fastest(RS) motor. They should just stick to racing other zips. No dont get me wrong i wasnt arguing or starting anything, i was just stating my opinion.

ill put money on my clone over a zipzap and any stock bit anyday.

yea but who races stock bits?! in real life who races a normal 4cylnder ford focus against a ferrari. Clones are good but the reason they earned their name as clones is because they arnt the best.

its called a clone because it is a knockoff of the original. the chassis and circuitry are almost identical. the major difference i can see is i payed half and have a nicer controller with better range.

ive never seen a picture of a bit without the ugly antenna sticking out the top. they handle much much better without.

and the bits are better big time for a guy who has about 10 clone chasis' laying around with torn apart parts and things, I know what s better, the clones are cheap(sadly to say) the circutry is the same but they cant use all bit motors. Get a real bit. and i wont carry on this conversation any longer because this is a zip zap forum.

Point taken but everything you mention is easily modded on the Zips...

the "real" antena is for kids....men take a longer antena from an old radio and swap it.
the control is not unconfortable?!?! Add a knob MOD and take the clear cover off...DONE!

To get the same effect on a bit you have to remove the antena wire and drill a whole on the case, and I haven't seen any mod for the knobs, I'm sorry but those "Click square buttons??" if anything says cheap on the bits is That! ;)

I still like the tires on the Bits! ;)

you take away the clicking by removing the black disks under the buttons which is the easiest possible mod that can be done:rolleyes: knob mods maybe you should check questformadness.com the have joystick mods:D

These types of arguments can go on forever. It's just like the Microsoft - Macintosh argument. They both do the same thing, but others feel there OS is better then the other. It's a winless battle. It's not like we're fighting over Kashmir.

IMO Zips suck out of the box. But compared to some clones, so do Bits. This is why people love Mod'ing. What car is my favorite for mod'ing? That's a no brainer. The ZipZap leaves you more room, the heat-sink screws down and that added little length makes for much better control. You can throw way more power behind the Zips then you can the Bits and still control them farely well without the need for tape and other tire modifications. I hate Radio Shack and can't wait for the Zips to have clones of their own. I'm crossing my fingers these Sharper Image clones are just as good as zips without the crappy PCB. If so, I'll be answering this thread with they both suck. I need the ZZ type length! I throw way too much power in these bad boys to have it suffer in a Bit size chassis.

I agree. These are arguments based on opinion. They are meaningless and prove nothing. Any of the many brands of cars can be modified in countless ways. These useless threads go on and on. Over and over again. Ad infinitem, ad nausium. It comes down to what YOU prefer, and what YOU are willing to try in the way of modding. I'm beginning to wonder if some have bought these toys to play with or to argue about. Which are you spending the most time doing? And, as usual, the spotty one is right. You're drawing lines in the sand over a 20 dollar toy!

You are missing the point here...These don't have to be "My car is better than yours arguments".
I like to see these as I don't like the car because of this. and because of that
NOTHING personal..

If someone complains about something about theirs car, maybe someone else knows how to FIX it.


This is what it's all about I didn't know this and I will Try it on my BIT. I'm looking for solutions and I'll provide solutions when I can.

Some guy complained about the ZZ controller I told him how he can FIX it so he can enjoy his car.

Again I'm looking for constructive arguments.

I didn't take anything personally. Nor should you. And you are right, they don't have to be what you describe. It's just that they so often are. But, alas, this is indicative of mankind in general. We all feel the need to find some modicum of superiority. Even if it is at the level of 20 dollars worth of plastic.
And again, I agree, you can gleen a little information, but you have to wade through a lot of fertilizer to find it. Btw, the switches themselves on my clones are the source of the clicking, so this mod may not work. But, they aren't true Bits or Microsizers so I could be wrong.

I never DO! :D

I AGREE 200% sad but true.


The point I wanted to make was that I don't mind the comparison posts
but PLEASE leave the " (insert your least favorite miniRC here) SUCKS" and non informative stuff!!! I totally agree with you in everything you said but I would hate to see this type of posts go because a few people can't help themselves!
:(

IMO - What makes these tiny rc's so special is it's a low ticket item where you're given the freedom to find out for yourself which is best. I'm torn on such an issue, cos' I hate pushing products on people. Makes me feel like a bible thumper knocking door to door. I don't think you should buy something just because I own it. I'm not the captain of the football team that just bought the new Tommy shoes that everyone will then go out and buy to copy. In a few of the posts above, it's obvious that this topic can very easily be turned into a "My dad can beat up your dad" argument. There is absolutely nothing wrong with stating opinions. Opinions are why these boards are here. I think Bits are a good car. I think Zips are a good car. I think some clones make a very comparible product. I even think the thread topic is a great idea, as long as it stays in an opinion format without resulting in pissing contests. Zips in my opinion are my favorite because I love to mod. That's a fact, but only to myself. :)

opinions?
 

Everyone knows what opinions are like...

ive read all the post on this thread and i have to add my two cents.I have one of each a bit,zip,and a clone(shen)and my prefrance for speed and all out fun the shen!Now for the style bit,im into imports and like the bodys the bits have avalible,the zip is a hassle to make fast i swaped my pcb on my first zip and my dog ate it :mad: It did make the car alot faster with the swap,so im doing another.the shen is super fast out the box or should i say the dome.the bit is slow compared to the shen with the same motor 2.6 i dont know about the 3.0. Does anyone know if the shen controller has a crip cap? i asked this in a thread and havent recived a answer.So to finish my opinion i choose the clone shen.And who ever dosent like that lets race and i will smmmmmmooooooke you.lol

I have four bits coming for Christmas for my older children. I have also been looking at Zip Zaps because of all of the discussion that I have found on this forum. It looks to me like the ZZ's are probably better for the kids since they are slower (easier to drive) and they have some neat bodies that kids would love (Sponge Bob and the others). I don't know, but for the price it seems like if you are getting a micro for your kids that you would probably want to go with the ZZ's. I just wish you could race more than two at a time. That is why I went with the Tomy Bit Char-g's. I may wind up buying a couple of ZZ's sometime in January when they get back in stock at Radio Shack. Tell me if I am wrong about this. I know that most of you know more about this stuff than I do.

nah that sounds right. if you got the money you may as well get bits since they are warrantied and probably better chance of working out of the box. zipzaps are pretty good quality but not very fast. clones are cheaper but some suck and some are really nice. i say if you like to tinker go with clones because they are cheap and 99% compatable with all the parts.

This is extremely misleading. I have seen only two or three people complain about problems and they were mostly issues with range associated with the 27mhz cars. That's out of literally thousands of posts. And that is only a fraction of the cars sold to date. I have three Zips and have had no problems with them. Zips are very well made, the quality is superb. In mass production, some bad ones will get through. Even with the best brands. You make it sound like most Zips don't work, and thats false. When someone is trying to gather factual information on buying a product, that is what they should get.

That came out of no where.....

Nah, I don't think hogjowlz was saying the there are problems with the Zip Zaps. He was saying that they are slow out of the box and that there are more problems with the clones so that it might be best to buy the bits. You guys get as hot and defensive about these zz's and bits as people do about politics. It is fun to read. Smile. :p

nah. zipzaps have good tires, wheels and steering. the rear axles are nice as well. mine did strip out where the axle stays in after a few weeks tho. i atribute that to playing with it too much.

they just dont go very fast unless you spend probably 20bucks in parts and 10hours doin mods. even then a modded bit or clone is still gona smoke it.

i personally like my clone that took limited modding to make it run how i want it. fast and controllable.