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caboverpete 01-16-2003 12:43 PM

new zips
 
a shot of my old blue civic along with the new gold civic and black mustang.

http://myg4.kicks-ass.net/newzaps.jpg

airline2 01-16-2003 05:14 PM

I want both of the new body tops

ChouDawg 01-18-2003 02:56 AM

the civic looks so nice, the new gold one, the mustang black is getting old, with the yellow and red, the gold civic just looks so exotic

NAVY1 01-18-2003 08:24 AM

is it the gold starter kit......and if so is it any faster and did thay change the controler

Canadian Bit 01-18-2003 09:54 AM

On another thread I found out that the gold Honda Civic Zip Zap is faster, as fast as azztbo! :D

caboverpete 01-18-2003 12:05 PM

the first thing i noticed was that both the stock gold civic and black mustand were faster than my blue civic with turbo motor and red gears... after adding a turbo motor and red gears to the gold civic it flips over in most turns.

caboverpete 01-18-2003 12:06 PM

oh and the both new controllers have longer and textured control nubs.

Canadian Bit 01-18-2003 12:58 PM

Maybe Radio Shack did a PCB mod on all of the new Zip Zaps during the production line.

sessiz10 01-18-2003 02:42 PM

Unfortunatly they did not. It's still the crappy pcb, atleast from what I gathered.

Canadian Bit 01-18-2003 02:52 PM

Then what did Radio Shack do to the new Zip Zaps when they were in the production line to make them faster?

sessiz10 01-18-2003 02:58 PM

They aren't any faster. I did some testing after the first reports of a speed increase and didn't find any. I used the performance motor with all the gearings and then went to the turbo and then to the nos and then to my dks2.6. It is the same stock zip.
The one thing I wasn't able to test was the performance motor that came stock with it. If there truly is a speed increase then it is in the motor and not the chassis or pcb.

caboverpete 01-18-2003 03:04 PM

well maybe my blue civic has always been a piece of crap then cause the 2 new cars are definatly faster... looks like the same pcb maybe better quality control on the new bunch .... who knows... who cares really as long as my new car is faster, and it is.

NitroBurner 01-18-2003 03:16 PM

Gold Civic bodies..
 
I have had the same results.. I bought 2 of the new Gold Civic ZipZaps and 1 Blue PT Cruiser and the Civics are much faster than the PT Cruiser.. Maybe they updated the motor design on them or something..

By the way if anyone is interested I have a brand new never used gold Civic body sitting on my desk along with the Civic style rims.. If any of you want it bad enough to buy it you can email me with a reasonable offer at: Nitroburner@earthlink.net

sessiz10 01-18-2003 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by caboverpete
well maybe my blue civic has always been a piece of crap then cause the 2 new cars are definatly faster... looks like the same pcb maybe better quality control on the new bunch .... who knows... who cares really as long as my new car is faster, and it is.
That's possible.
What I wanna ask you is exactly how did you measure this speed increase?
The only thing I don't have from the stock car is the motor that came with it. I did timed runs and found no increase. I have said it maybe a thousand times, and I still maintain that if RS would just fix the pcb, or come out with a speed set that comes with a fixed pcb, They would have a much better car. I guess some more testing is called for, after the races tonight;)

caboverpete 01-18-2003 03:31 PM

OK well i just did some more testing and ive tried several different gear and motor combos... i run them in one car then put them in the civic and there is no need to time the difference because it is noticably faster... like the same red motor and gear that make the blue civic and black mustang reasonable fast make the gold civic almost uncontrolable in that it either flips or spins out. I thought maybe the turbo motor i had in the blue civic was shot because it was slower than the stock mustang but when i put it in the gold civic it flew. I guess i just got lucky with a fast car. I agree that RS didnt have the PCBs reenginnered or anything but I am willing to believe that since the christmas rush is over that quality control may have been stepped up or atleast enforced.

sessiz10 01-18-2003 04:04 PM

Did you check the front knuckles of your old zip for debris?
What wheels do you have on the new zips?
I found that if there is crap in the knuckles it slows down the zip alot. My first zip with the nos would do a doughnut (kinda) and was fast but I didn't get flipping speeds until I did a pcb swap.
There will be a couple of stock zips tonight that are never touched and I'm picking up another new zip tonight (hopefully) and there will be some serious testing. The way these cars are manufactured there really is no way that 1 zip would be faster than another stock so there must be others. Here's hoping that Rs finally wised up.:rolleyes:

sessiz10 01-19-2003 01:22 AM

Okay My (emphasis on the M and the Y) stock gold civic zip is not any faster than any other stock zip. This leads me to believe that;
1. There is no change in the manufacturing of the zips.
or
2. I got the only bum zip out there.
I went to the RS and I almost bought one more just for the testing but I decided i would spend that $20 on beer.:D

ChouDawg 01-20-2003 02:16 AM

umm the gold civic is WAY faster, my blue honda NOS motor and Green Gears VS Gold civic with Stock motor and stock gears = Blue civic got taken out

ChouDawg 01-20-2003 02:19 AM

how did you lower the blue civic? looks SO mcuh better

sessiz10 01-20-2003 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChouDawg
umm the gold civic is WAY faster, my blue honda NOS motor and Green Gears VS Gold civic with Stock motor and stock gears = Blue civic got taken out
Taken out how?
Off the line or at the end of the run?
I dunno how you guys test your cars but here's some advice.
You wanna see if the car has more power? Take one motor, a nos if you have it, and use that in both cars. Time it in a straight no less than 10ft. Both cars will have the same setup, tires and gears.
I unfortunatly don't have the stock motor from the new zips (gold civic) so I can't test that. If by the grace of god your new zip is faster than the old one, please post some times. Do not say the differance is noticable, that really doesn't prove anything.

Just a little background on me for all of the new pups. I've raced these cars since sometime in november every weekend, for money, yeah with friends so it's all good. If the new zips are faster stock, and I have a new zip that aint, I wanna know why.

ChouDawg 01-20-2003 01:31 PM

ya killed in a drag race

sessiz10 01-20-2003 03:38 PM

What was the distance of the drag?
The nos is a top end motor so just about any other motor will get the jump on it. Everybody should know that the difference between motors is +/- 2000 rpm so good green would be close or better than a bad turbo. The tests need to be done with the same exact motor on both cars.

ChouDawg 01-20-2003 05:46 PM

:UPDATE:

Re-Did the drag both same gears both same engine no bodies

gold civic won again

sessiz10 01-20-2003 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChouDawg
:UPDATE:

Re-Did the drag both same gears both same engine no bodies

gold civic won again

I feel like I'm fighting a lost cause here. It really doesn't matter cause tonight the last of my stock zips is getting it's pcb swap.

ChouDawg 01-20-2003 10:42 PM

AH you just dont understand, the GOLD CIVIC is faster than the old ZipZaps stock or not stock, now ALL I want to know is if the Black Mustang has the same attributes and is Faster than old ZipZaps stock or not like the Gold Civic THATS ALL I WANT TO KNOW

sessiz10 01-20-2003 10:59 PM

I understand perfectly well, I just don't trust your methods. You say it's faster, that's cool. I have a gold civic that isn't any faster and I have done a thorough test. I would go buy another one but I really don't need to cause the pcb on the zips is horrible and I would just wind up swapping it out. I also question your comprehension skills cause if you read my posts and understood them you wouldn't keep playing the same song. Maybe you and the few others got a great batch of stock zips, and I wish more than you that RS would fix the pcb, But from what I've gathered they haven't.
To answer your question about the mustang. Go buy 1 and then you'll know.
I asked in one of my posts to post the times of both cars in the straight, did you read that? It's up there look for it.

caboverpete 01-20-2003 11:01 PM

my RC10GT is noticably faster than my gold civic.... although ill have to time the 2 to be absolutly certain.

sessiz10 01-20-2003 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by caboverpete
my RC10GT is noticably faster than my gold civic.... although ill have to time the 2 to be absolutly certain.
:rolleyes: You're ignorant. We are talking zip zaps, and you pull that out of your @ss. This is a waste of my time. Enjoy yourselves.

ChouDawg 01-20-2003 11:09 PM

I just wanted to know if anyone had one and saw that it was faster because I dotn have a solder and I dont know how to do a swap so I'm stuck with it so I wanted to know if it was better

Wreck Inc 2 01-21-2003 04:24 PM

nice stang

airline2 01-30-2003 07:13 AM

i love my golda honda civic zipzaps


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