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JP2k 12-31-2002 07:03 PM

K.I.T. battery for mod
 
hey i just bought one of those K.I.T. hot wheels kits for spare parts and i was wondering if i could use the battery from it in a dual cell mod for my bit?

thanks

Aaronmamo 01-06-2003 06:15 PM

I don't see why not. I put the kit racer battery in one of my bits and it worked fine. I plan on doing a 3-cell mod on my ferrari clone :-)

zclonedude 01-07-2003 08:48 AM

Hi Guys, are the K.I.T batteries the same size, you know 1/3 aaa?
Thanks in advance...

Gent 01-07-2003 06:55 PM

The batteries for the KIT racers are fully compatible with the Bit racers. In fact if you look on the battery it says Tomy. I installed one in my clone, and it ran just perfect. The KIT's are a good way to get spare batteries, tires, and a 2.6 motor all for under $5 at your local target in the discount isle. You can also use the rear whells of the KIT if you trim off about 1/2 of the nub on the inside of the rear rim. If you have questions, I'll try and help you.

Aaronmamo 01-07-2003 06:58 PM

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they work perfect. Look at my tri-cell Ferrari!

Gent 01-07-2003 07:00 PM

Man does that thing fly? Did you use the front bumper on the KITs for the rear of your Bit? Looks sweet man.

Aaronmamo 01-07-2003 07:02 PM

I did use the front bumper thing. You just screw it to the bottom. You have to use a very small screw. I did not have any of these so I super glued it.

Gent 01-07-2003 07:03 PM

How did you mount the batteries, and did you solder the wires to the batts? Thx in advance.

Aaronmamo 01-07-2003 07:05 PM

I did solder the batteries togethe. I did not glue the batteries or secure them to the wheelie bar (KIT bumper). The way the wires are held then on the wheelie bar with no problem. They don't move around unless you yank on them.

Gent 01-07-2003 07:07 PM

What about charging? Doo you have a separate charge pack, or do you just charge longer? Sorry for all the questions :)

Aaronmamo 01-07-2003 07:10 PM

It is ok about the questions, it is a forum, questions are very welcome. I did have to make my own charger but that is tommorows prodject. I alredy have one but I need to make another becasue the connections are bad on my other one. You need a 4 aa battery holder from radio shack. Then you use the car mount on the charger and hook up the 4 aa holder to it. Go to the mod/prodject forum and look around. THere are instructions somewhere
Seeeya!
Aaron

tory_103 01-07-2003 08:37 PM

hmmmmm...... i think you need a 6AA Battery Holder..........

if you have Dual Cell Mod, then you get 4AA Battery Holder and charge for 90 secs

if you have Tri-Cell Mod, then you get 6AA Battery Holder and charge for 135 secs

2 AA's per every 1 car battery

i think this is how the cycle works....... you only have one battery on your car, so therefor you only have 2 AA's in your controller....... I dont know if this is how it goes exactly, but thats my theory ( I aint no rocket gynocologist ) ............. l8r

Aaronmamo 01-07-2003 08:42 PM

Do you know where you can my 6 aa holders. I have never seen them

rallger 01-08-2003 05:54 PM

well i know there are three battery holders.....
so if you were in a bind you can wire 2 together

rallger 01-08-2003 05:56 PM

oh and how much torque (sp?) does the 2.6 from the k.i.t. have?

Silent_NightR34 01-09-2003 03:48 PM

well u can also get a 3.0 motor from them...and some 3:43:1 gears..thats wat i did for $2:D

Spanky 01-11-2003 05:51 AM

ii just got three of the kit racers today. had the 4.57:1 gearing. the 2.6 motor and the soft orange tires. anyway i read a couple posts that said to get these gears from the K.I.T to work you have to cut up the frame of the car. that sounded kinda crazy to me because if you do then you would only be able to use the KIT gearing. i just chopped off that spacer thing at the on the wheel opposite of the gear. it fit perfect.

o well there isnt much raw tire spinning acceleration, but it just keeps going faster. i dont have a stretch longenough in my place (6 feet is my biggest stretch.. everything else is thick carpeting or an unrunable surface) to get it up to full speed. i will bring to work on monday to race against the others.

i got mine at target for like 4 bucks. then i stopped at wallmart and they had 2 more but for 7.99. they are the "RPM" model o well im gonna slap the extra cell on this thing tomorow and see if i cant get a little more performance outa this little creature...


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JBit 01-12-2003 10:31 PM

the 2.6 has crazy torque, a great balance of speed and torque, my fave over the 2.2 and the 3.0 right now.

Kaizer-Stryke 01-15-2003 02:21 AM

hey do u know why my dual cell mod car dont work ? and by wont work i mean the motor wont spin the front wheels move and i hear the motor straining and theres nothing caught in it cuz i took the axle and all the gears off

Silentbob343 01-15-2003 02:56 AM

http://home.attbi.com/~silentbob343/Brodie.html

Spanky 01-15-2003 03:11 AM

ok. heres my problem. i did the 2.4v battery turbo mod with my clone. unfortnately it only runs slower. could i have missed something??


so i am understangind this correctly the wiring should be something like this

pcb board > +battery1 > -battery2 > +back to pcb.

did i do that right??

please dont say it wont work because its a clone!!! im experimenting on this little chunk.

Silentbob343 01-15-2003 11:47 AM

you shouldn't have had to mess with the PCB just the batteries and metal connectors in the chassis.

Spanky 01-15-2003 01:11 PM

but yes you do have to mess with the pcb. if you dont you will not be able to charge the 2.4v that the 2 batteries needs. this is the 2 battery turbo mod. not the mod to make it run longer. the batteries are wired in series not parallel. if they were wired parallel then leaving the controller would be ok, it would just take mulptile charges to get the batteries fully charged.

description of the 2.4v battery mods here

Spanky 01-15-2003 01:13 PM

oops. pcb i was thinking controller. i didnt mess with the pcb. that shows that the wire comes from the pcb to the positive of battery one, then from the negative of bat1 to the positive of bat2 and from the neg of bat2 back to the pcb.

Silentbob343 01-15-2003 01:16 PM

lol

yeah, I was like why is he messing with the cars PCB?

You definitely need a multi-cell or ACl charger to get a dual cell up to it's full potential.

Spanky 01-15-2003 01:26 PM

cool. i have a 4 cell holder thingy from my bigger rc car. i think it was supposed to be used for the reciever in the car if i didnt have an ESC. anyway it will work great now that i think about it. it still has the plug on it so i think im just going to leaave the charger on the controller, and put a plug on it so i can just plug in the 4cell battery pack. and then put a buncha velcro on the back of it to stick it to the controller..

how long should the charge times be for a 4 cell charger?

Silentbob343 01-15-2003 01:41 PM

hmm...now that's a good question

I typically leave my car on the AC charger for 3 minutes. I have a 800mA voltage adjustable charger: I have it set to 4.5volts.

Spanky 01-15-2003 01:50 PM

are there any electrical geniuses out there that could possibly post some type of time scale for charging moded cars. for example a 2 cell car on 3 batteries, on 4 batteries, on a car battery... lol that kinda thing.

Spanky 01-15-2003 05:33 PM

ok, time to put to gether the 4cell charger... am i supposed to just wire this directly to the charger? or do i need some other electronics along with it? using 4 cells sounds like it might do some damage to the batteries in thecar.. is it to much voltage to charge with? ive only got 2 cells in my car.

i dont understand why the two AA's wont give it a full charge... im not gonna run any risk in frying anything with 4 AA batteries am i? 4 AAs would be 6v.


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