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Mr BigShot 12-14-2003 06:54 PM

Bigger and Better Motors " NEW PICS INSIDE Must see"
 
Hello all my Xmod modders !!!! I think it is time to bump it up to next step with these cars . We need to find better ways to make these car's preform so we can put the Mini Z's to shame :eek: So what do we need to do put bigger motor's , better suspension, servo's , what you think ? Maybe fab some better metal parts ? Lght weight metal of course ! I'm pretty sure I'am done with the 130 motor and going to get into 180's like neurokinetik is thinking of doing . I race out side so i have allready found out that i have to make skid plates or the plastic will just wear away . I know back in high school in metal shop class we use to make stuff out of aluiminum . I made casts in some sand stuff and poured liquid aluiminum in them to make stuff . Maybe some like that :rolleyes:

Ok I guess i done talkin crazy :D See you on the mean street's fellow RC Street Racers

Mr BigShot 12-14-2003 07:21 PM

One more thing LOL
 
I was speaking about metal parts . Well you can order metal axels from RS for the front and the back. :DThe plastic one's just break all a part with the abuse I put these things threw. I have some on order cant wait to they get here :D

xxspeednplayaxx 12-15-2003 08:49 AM

sounds good i like seein a man on a mission.. btw (dont hate me) i went over to miniZracer.com and checked out der parts, dey got some hefty motors and yes metal parts... take em out wit der own equipment, btw i kon a 180 motor is bigger but is that d micro RS4 motor cuz ive herd those 2 b beasts (tourque monsters)


as fer suspension here is my idea (if u use plz give me a lil credit) i wus plannin on usin all hard springs all round but put the med and stok springs as well in the back...(not ontop but interwoven) and in the front have the hard and med springs interwoven.

the intervoven idea is a tough concept 2 explain so ill try to pslain it
\ (this is a stok spring the
\ dashes are the coils)
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\ (hard) (here is my spring
\ (med) so ud get more coils
\ (Stock) and its striffer)
\ (hard)
\ (med)
\ (Stock)
\ (hard)
\ (med)
\ (Stock)
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all u have to do is put the springs next 2 each oda and slip em together.. and it uses the hard ware u already own.... finaly some genious figured u could use a paper clip as a stabilizer bar (i love it)

xxspeednplayaxx 12-15-2003 03:10 PM

anoda idea poped in my head while i was napping (stayed home sik from skool) some1 needs a way to hook up a 2spd tranny, den we could get some awsome accel (usin a balanced gear) den have it switch to the drage gear my only clue is 2 get a tranny off one of em HPI gas cars i kon it may not be possible but its still good to ponder bout

xxspeednplayaxx 12-15-2003 03:15 PM

Lol im really bored cuz im usually doin h.w. fer 4 hours but heres anoda idea.... could it b possible to wire say 4 more batts (9.6V) in series after the chip.. like have them wired in so the current from the chips goes into the batts and fires 9.6 volts into d motor?? this would give insane power and not affect the chip wuts so ever plz tell me if dis would wrk cuz ill b willing 2 try on my X-mod wen it comes (diagram)

(Stok)

Chip---Motor
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(My Idea)

Chip---Xtra Batts---Motor

theMonster 12-15-2003 05:48 PM

headache
 
Reading your posts gives me a headache, due to the horrific spelling and grammar. I know you think it's cool to try to talk "street" and maybe you type slow and use "dis" instead of this, but if you clean it up, then I'm sure you'll get more responses. L8.

Also, none of the stuff will work from the RS4 because it is 1/18 scale and the x-mod and mini-z are 1/28 scale. That's a HUGE size difference.

AUDI-TT 12-15-2003 05:57 PM

RELAYS would work awsome, theyre a switch which is turned on by electricity. So u could have 4 batteries, and when u accelerate, the relay automatically adds 4 more bats to the current when it senses the first 4 batts. Hard concept sorta.... i dont know if it works on a propo car, but they use them on auldeys all the time!

duwain 12-15-2003 06:55 PM

Quote:

"Lol im really bored cuz im usually doin h.w. fer 4 hours but heres anoda idea.... could it b possible to wire say 4 more batts (9.6V) in series after the chip.. "

Someone already tried a 9.6 volt, http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=16042

There ya go.

geofroley 12-15-2003 07:09 PM

I hope you guys know that he fried that thing and now has to get a new XMOD.

xxspeednplayaxx 12-15-2003 08:49 PM

first off im sorry for the slang... i still type the retarded way.. Back to the subject... what i was proposing was to have the extra batteries wired in series after the chip. in other word the car would be stock until the wiring that connects the chip to the motor, (their would be 4 more cells in their) so theoreticly oyu would have 4.8V in the chip but 9.6 at the motor, and the extra cells would only activate when you hit foward/ reverse thus completeing the circut...

Mr BigShot 12-18-2003 02:22 PM

Hey ????
 
Does anyone know what 180 Motor Neurokinetik is running and is it a RS4 motor ? I'm getting payed tomarrow ,and Iwant to go out and buy one :D Oh one more thing has anyone been have problems with breaking the cheap plastic I dont even know what you call them there after the Axels there what the Axels go into ??? I started makin mine out of metal !!!

sono 12-23-2003 12:30 PM

180 sized motor
 
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Works great with stock electronics... used the 11 tooth pinion. same top speed, but faster acceleration.. Had to glue on my tires.

Mr BigShot 12-23-2003 02:42 PM

sweet motor
 
Thats a nice motor you got there . How much was it ? I went to my hobby store the other day , and they had RS4 motors there . The one I'm looking at buyin has a round can but it is the same size as a 180 in lenth . It looks pretty nice :cool: They also had a motor called the Big Block but it seemed a little to big tho .

sono 12-23-2003 02:57 PM

Team Orion Micro Elite Stock Motor
 
ITs the Team Orion Micro Elite Stock Motor
around 10-13$

Stock Number: RC-ORI 20901

its a 7.2 volt motor. so its running slightly under powered

neurokinetik 12-23-2003 04:33 PM

I have been running one of those, along with the GPM modified motor. The Team Orion is really good if you take off 10 turns, and even better if you do that and then run it on 7.2V. The acceleration I get with this setup is astounding. I've drag raced a 1/10th scale AWD pan car and killed him for the first 10 feet, until he could get his speed up and blow by me. Oh, and that was with me running four cells and him running six. Next time, I will also be running six cells, and I think the driver will be somewhat surprised when I pull on him for the first 10 feet, then continue to pull away... :cool:

Stock, the Team Orion motor with only four cells and AWD is a killer combo on a road course. :D

lckyrocket 12-23-2003 04:44 PM

Is it much more powerful than the stage twos?

neurokinetik 12-23-2003 06:02 PM

Well, when you can run the tallest available gear ratio (3.82:1) and still out accelerate the guys running stage 2 with 6:1 gears, I'd say that's a big difference.

We're talking about pulling as much as 2 feet of distance on just a 10 foot straightaway here. Of course, that also means you had better be good with the brakes, as well. :p

Mr BigShot 12-29-2003 04:49 PM

HPI Racing Motor Installed
 
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Hello all my Xmod Modders! I have got my newest and most crazyest Mod i have done yet . I also have Pics !! For you none believers . Sorry if my spell sucks . This forum needs a spell check LOL :D Step 1. Go to HobbyTown and Buy a Micro Modified Motor for a RS4"mine was $25.00" 2. Oh crap to much to right I'll just show some Pic's !!!! Since the motor was to big and would hit the drive shaft , and my Gears wouldn't touch I had to stack 2 gears . Well you see :eek:

Mr BigShot 12-29-2003 04:51 PM

nexted pic
 
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stock and non stock

Mr BigShot 12-29-2003 04:52 PM

third pic
 
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stock and non stock

Mr BigShot 12-29-2003 04:54 PM

Fouth Pic
 
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Very Good Shot of of all three gear !!! I took 2 11 tooth gears and stacked them on top of a blue gear

xxspeednplayaxx 12-29-2003 06:09 PM

nice but dosent that make foward backwards and so on... any way thats boss, i bought the hoppin hydros motor from HT, btw wheres your HT located

xxspeednplayaxx 12-29-2003 06:10 PM

dont bother remembering about the fowards... you were smart and i bet switched the - and +

jamgunner 12-30-2003 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neurokinetik
Well, when you can run the tallest available gear ratio (3.82:1) and still out accelerate the guys running stage 2 with 6:1 gears, I'd say that's a big difference.

Are you refering to the stock team orion motor(without 10turns off)? If it was with your modified team orion, is it still singnficantly better in its stock form? Also what modifications are required in order to run 180 motors?

Mr BigShot 12-30-2003 06:01 PM

Pic of two motors nexted to each other
 
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What you think Neuro !

Mr BigShot 12-31-2003 01:28 PM

My Nexted Motor I'll be putting in
 
Is a Team Orion Big Block Motor :D It will be eazy with my " orginal " gear stack idea :D Just got to come up with the $37.00 bucks to buy it , and when I say "come up" I mean get the money and buy it without my wife knowing :D

Mr BigShot 01-02-2004 12:49 PM

I got it
 
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My Team Orion Big Block

neurokinetik 01-02-2004 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jamgunner
Are you refering to the stock team orion motor(without 10turns off)? If it was with your modified team orion, is it still singnficantly better in its stock form? Also what modifications are required in order to run 180 motors?
At the time that I posted that, I never even ran that motor stock in a car. I ripped it apart and took off 10 turns after hearing it run. It just didn't sound fast enough. :lol: I now have one that I have kept stock, and the acceleration is still that good. Top end suffers with the stock motor, though.

I think that Big Block motor is going to be a challenge to fit, but since you made that other one fit, this one should be possible, too. I'd check the current draw on it though. I still need to find an FC-260 motor. It would be much easier to mount than these round can motors, and would perform pretty well.

newbitowner 01-02-2004 06:20 PM

Quote:

you can order metal axels from RS for the front and the back
I ordered some joint cups for my car 2 days ago.

We can get them in metal?

What is the part # for the metal pieces?

Each piece I got were $2.50. Hopefully I don't get plastic. :(

sinistar 01-02-2004 07:15 PM

Hey Mr.bigshot and Xmoders
 
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hey Nice work. U'm I'm the guy that made Coheeds or dies Eclipse. U'm whats your AIM.

Sinistar

Pics of 91 Civic HB later when I paint it. for now heres my stock skyline or as I call it the Drift Police.

sinistar 01-02-2004 07:16 PM

that is such a crappy Pic

Mr BigShot 01-03-2004 01:11 PM

Big Block in car
 
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not done yet

neurokinetik 01-03-2004 02:48 PM

Looks like it's going to be a candidate for either a MINI Cooper body or PT Cruiser... ;)

Joey 01-03-2004 07:51 PM

Sinistar...was that thing at the back a muffler?
I think I'll go get on that Team Orion stocker - is there any chance that I can totally incapacitate it if I try unwinding on it for the first time?

Mr BigShot 01-04-2004 04:01 AM

There Pletty room also
 
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Here's another Pic of my Big Block fully Installed . There also pletty of room under stock body "supra"

Micro S2000 01-04-2004 12:56 PM

i'd like to see a mini z try and outrun that

Joey 01-04-2004 06:54 PM

It would almost undoubtedly have better grip, and better tire adhesion to the wheels. 'Power is nothing wthout control.'

I think one of the Andrettis said that.

RGM1524 01-06-2004 11:23 AM

holy god. thats insane. BTW, what kind of wireing do you have there... and what kind of FEt setup are you using to power that behemoth!

Jamezracer 01-07-2004 01:08 AM

so is the team orion stock motor a direct bolt on, or are ther any custom mods needed?

RGM1524 01-07-2004 07:58 PM

and my real question is (sorry if its already been answered) will be it more powerful and not heat up at much as a stage 2 motor will with a 5th cell mod.


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