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Bad Company 10-16-2003 08:02 PM

Spring suspension on new Jeep Zip Zaps.
 
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I just noticed that both of my Jeep chassis' are missing the suspension bar and have springs instead.

viperkilla 10-16-2003 08:11 PM

Hey good observation bad company. Are there springs in the firebirds and the cameros? There may be springs because a Jeep is a SUV. And also it the real car can go off road.

Bad Company 10-16-2003 08:16 PM

No, they are not in MY Firebirds or Camaros, only the Jeeps. The Jeeps are the last of the regular Zips to be released, so maybe all cars produced from now on will have them.

viperkilla 10-16-2003 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by Bad Company
No, they are not in MY Firebirds or Camaros, only the Jeeps. The Jeeps are the last of the regular Zips to be released, so maybe all cars produced from now on will have them.
Does that mean we wont see anymore regular zip zaps later on?

suprafreak33 10-16-2003 10:49 PM

nop:( :( :(




get some bfor they run out!!!

rfnagel 10-17-2003 07:04 AM

Excellent discovery, BC! -:)

Have you noticed much difference in handling with the Jeep chassis compared to the older ones? Any other changes compared to the originals?

That stinks that they won't be releasing any more of the original chassis Zaps -:( Damn, have to go buy me a Jeep now LOL! -:)

zzmaniac 10-17-2003 09:07 AM

I have a jeep, but it doesn't have the springs. It has the suspension bar. Man that sucks for me. So, everyone watch out for that.

Bad Company 10-17-2003 11:59 AM

Let me clear this up. What I meant was that the Jeeps were the latest to be released, not that they are the last to ever be released. As far as some not having the springs, maybe they are just now chaging them over, so we will still see some without them, sorta like the way the did the PCB changes.

rfnagel 10-17-2003 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Bad Company
Let me clear this up. What I meant was that the Jeeps were the latest to be released, not that they are the last to ever be released.
WOOHOO! Thanks fo clarifying that! -:) -:)

viperkilla 10-17-2003 08:29 PM

For a second my heart stopped. :p

rfnagel 10-18-2003 12:23 AM

I just picked myself up a green Jeep a few hours ago -:)

Per BC's previous pic, it has suspension springs -:) What RS has done is to remove the suspension bar (the mounts are still there for it), and installed springs over the steering knuckles (just like the modifications that a lot of folks here have done to them LOL!).

The Jeep chassis and the older chassis(s) are identical, they simply removed the bar and added the springs -:)

Also, I had me a printed coupon for a free Wild Thornberrys body kit (see Internet coupons at http://www.radioshack.com/coupons ), which I also picked up LOL. Now, mind you, I have NO interest for these bodies whatsoever, but.... if I can "amputate" Daddy Thornberry from the olive drab Jeep, I'll have one helluva good looking military-styled Jeep! -:)

slugbugg 10-18-2003 05:20 AM

I was in a radio shack checking on Xmods to see if they were in and I looked at the jeeps and all of the ones I looked at had the springs, I almost bought one but resisted the urge.
None of the other cars appeared to have springs but then again I didnt check all of them, they had so many and I was on a lunch break so time was limited.

I really just want the jeep body do they come in any more colors.

rfnagel 10-18-2003 05:34 AM

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None of the other cars appeared to have springs but then again I didnt check all of them, they had so many and I was on a lunch break so time was limited.

I really just want the jeep body do they come in any more colors.

Yep, AFAIK currently only the Jeeps have the springs. The Jeep comes in green (27MHz) and gold/yellow (49MHz).

jbach39 10-20-2003 11:48 PM

I got the Green one tonight (my second regular ZZ, the first being a first gen Red Porsche), was hoping the green was 49 MHz, but no luck, wanted 49MHz, but also wanted green, oh well, another 27 MHz rc for me.

The springs aren't as stiff ast the ones in the ZZse's, at least not as far as I can see, they almost totally compress just with the weight of the car on them, or so it seems

John

rfnagel 10-21-2003 05:07 AM

Ditto on both accounts.

Yeah, I really wanted a 49MHz Jeep, but wanted the shale green color moreso.

kevinsupra90 11-12-2003 08:10 PM

I saw those, the Camaros and Firebirds don't have springs. Only the Jeeps.

ZZ_King 11-15-2003 03:35 PM

hey did you notice that the jeeps came out after the firebirds and camaros. so i think the guy that said there crossing over to spring suspension was right. there probabaly just testing if it works before they take away the suspension bar mounts.

wildcharg 11-17-2003 02:58 PM

its funny, the one zipzap they coulda had riding high on the suspension and it almost looks to low. RS, RS, RS.......:confused:

vtheo 11-24-2003 09:40 PM

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I got my jeep, has springs on it. Doesnt matter to meright now see I added a reversed suspension bar, to faciltate the height of the new tires, though with a little shaving the front wheels may clear. I plan to get better pics soon, digi cam was stolen :(. also working on a lift kit, and rug runner type mod.

vtheo 11-24-2003 09:42 PM

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These are tires from motorworks cars, not the cars modeled after real cars, but the funky looking ones, very fast, and hard to control with the short wheelbase. Pops wheelies though :D

vtheo 11-24-2003 09:45 PM

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last pic, the pic looks like it is tilted, but it was the cam... the stand was too tall, so had to hold it in my hand, and my hand isnt the stablest of methods to hold a cam

vtheo 11-24-2003 09:54 PM

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oh, and here is a somewhat clearer picture of the tire

Missouri Jim 11-25-2003 02:43 AM

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oh, and here is a somewhat clearer picture of the tire
Hey ! Where can I get those tires??! Motorworks?:confused:

vtheo 11-25-2003 01:28 PM

at walmart, should be with all the rest of the mini-rcs there. They were off a orange truck, though i think you will end up playing with the motorworks more than the zipzap. When a car pulls wheelies stock :D you wanna play with it. When that died, i got a red truck, with te longer wheelbase, this is also lots of fun, on carpet i can get it to wheelie also, havent tried it on other surfaces yet. My new truck also came with some wide tires, but they are too small to put on my zip. these are not the 'motorworks' that are based off real cars, these have some strange bodies, but are very fast. if you cant find the orange truck, then just look at the tires they have all the extra ones should be on display. Make sure you get the shorter ones, because the longer ones have smaller wheels. also dont be afraid to put the smaller front tires on your zz, they fit

viperkilla 11-25-2003 07:54 PM

Whoa, I just noticed that the Jeeps sit pretty high.

Comrade_Boris 11-25-2003 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by viperkilla
Whoa, I just noticed that the Jeeps sit pretty high.
its the one zz that looks ok that high, LOL!!!!

itsmemorphious 11-25-2003 11:11 PM

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But it also looks good :bdrop:

vtheo 11-26-2003 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by viperkilla
Whoa, I just noticed that the Jeeps sit pretty high.
If you are talking about mine, it has a small lift kit, and bigger tires. The 'lift kit' is a upside down susp. bar, and the tires are from motorworks cars.

Missouri Jim 12-11-2003 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by vtheo
at walmart, should be with all the rest of the mini-rcs there. They were off a orange truck, though i think you will end up playing with the motorworks more than the zipzap. When a car pulls wheelies stock :D you wanna play with it. When that died, i got a red truck, with te longer wheelbase, this is also lots of fun, on carpet i can get it to wheelie also, havent tried it on other surfaces yet. My new truck also came with some wide tires, but they are too small to put on my zip. these are not the 'motorworks' that are based off real cars, these have some strange bodies, but are very fast. if you cant find the orange truck, then just look at the tires they have all the extra ones should be on display. Make sure you get the shorter ones, because the longer ones have smaller wheels. also dont be afraid to put the smaller front tires on your zz, they fit
Well, I finally bought the motorworx (was a lime green offroad looking truck) & put it's tires on my jeep & also put a suspension bar in (upside down)so the tires would clear (I even bent the suspension bar a bit so it would make the wheels clear even better....didnt have to shave anything off the wheelwells).
http://www.thetreasuredepot.com/photos/jeep001.jpg
Thanks a bunch for all the info.... My jeep now actually looks like a REAL jeep with offroad type tires! Looks very similar to my actual daily driver jeep now too !:D
Again... THANKS! :)

vtheo 12-11-2003 01:21 AM

yeah, its amazing what a little lift and some new tires can do, tho i think i am about to give on zz's and stick with motorworks, they are cheaper, faster, and have higher ground clearance. those are my three requirements for a car/truck. oh, does your walmart have tehm for 10 bucks? i was like "Score!"

Missouri Jim 12-11-2003 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by vtheo
yeah, its amazing what a little lift and some new tires can do, tho i think i am about to give on zz's and stick with motorworks, they are cheaper, faster, and have higher ground clearance. those are my three requirements for a car/truck. oh, does your walmart have tehm for 10 bucks? i was like "Score!"
Yeah... was 10 bucks. :)

nitrousmaniac 12-13-2003 12:36 PM

ok i skipped the first three pages but can u switch the suspension with springs? if so how?

kevinsupra90 12-17-2003 08:56 AM

If you're talking about replacing the sway suspension with springs, yes. Just pop off the plastic cover on the electronics and unscrew the steering cover. Then put some really fine springs on the king pins. Replace the covers and take out the sway bar.


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