Who Hates F&F
 

i liked the first one b/c i knew absolutely nothing about cars back then... only that they looked cool, were loud, and the dudes taht drove them were cool... (haha)

now i know, and i hate F&F. Period. Sure, they got a supra, one of my favorite cars... but it's not even about the cars anymore. It's about them getting wrecked. you see that poor pink S2K in the preview?! ow... it makes me wanna paint all my cars pink and put hello kitty stickers all over them. ugh.... now all the friggin kids walkin around are gonna be spouting stuff about they're buddy's R34.... **sigh**..

and that... iron.. dude's pics, that's EXACTLY what im talkin about too. everyone with a tasteful car that performs is gonna be labeled as a wannabe. We gather in parking lots sometimes to talk and show off a little, but now we cant even do that w/o getting a load pure rice come and start talking up their cars....

never, EVER gonna go watch that movie. so who's with me?

I remember the time I saw a ricer import thingy on the side of a road with its hood up. Me & my friends laughed our ass off

My wife and I were commenting to each other that the technology is killer, but the girl body mods & styling and brappy sounding buzz bomb thing can go.
We're also both in our late 30's so bear with the old folks.

but hell pie...... you see the driver of the s2k? heh

anyways....... pies rite....... FF ruined imports name.............. and made whi....er of ethnics believe that rice was theres 4 the taking........ when really it was US!!!!!! the AZN!!!

hahahaha...... azn pride guys...... azn pride..... hahahahahha

:D performance cars were started by everyone, from our drifters, the domestic muscle cars, and those crazy ass euro exotics...

but rice was us... hehe, the poor asian kids with only the money for a loud exhaust and a big wing :D

(who was that driver...?) i just like her car... it's cool...

Imports are cool, but I hate rice.

Tuning your car so it can perform better, I respect and love. A car-guy is a car-guy (or car-girl) no matter what they drive. Wanting better performance is an obvious thing, whatever you drive can be made better. :)

Anyway, F&F brought this underground street race thing to the general public's attention. Now you can't go anywhere without seeing a bone-stock base model Honda with a body kit, Type-R badge, spoiler, stickers, visually offencive paint, fart cannon, tuner rims, clear corner lights, and the like. The best part is that since F&F came out, they all seem to drive like 'azz-holez': launching from *every* light, cutting as many people off as they can, side-stepping the clutch, trying to drive an automatic like it's a stick... It's funny if you can get over how many lives they're endangering.

The concept of the "sleeper" is apparently dead to most people now. Am I the only one that still thinks a rather 'gutless looking' car that could take just about anything in a street race is cool? :rolleyes: Oh well, I guess it's cheaper and safer for them to have something all show and no go. (Uh, I don't condone street racing though ;) Don't do it.)

Never saw the first F&F, since I thought the plot was too far fetched. (Honda/Mitsubishi + 50 lbs of stuff to add drag + 1,000 lbs of radio stuff and lights + 1 bottle nitrous = 1/4 in the 10's? doing street racing) Didn't really plan on seeing the second, as the plot is even worse (sneak money from illegal actions in hideously ugly cars while driving several times the speed limits?) BUT: I'm probably going to end up seeing both of them, and picking up the original it was based on (1950's street racing scene).

Just remember, Muscle cars and Pony cars aren't dead, they're just waiting for their prey to get confident. Hope you like the tail-lights.

wait wait wait..........FF is based on a '50s street racing movie???? i thought it was based on ID?

dont worry frizzen i like the the whole gutless look too..... it makes it look like your car is stock....when it really not..........

The Fast and the Furious (1954)

It looks like it's probably a rather funny b-movie. (but isn't the new one also?) Kidnapping, and illegal races. Not exactly a remake, even though just about *all* the movie reviews say it was. American Graphiti was probably closer to F&F (2001) than the original movie by the same name.

http://www.jabootu.com/acolytes/bnotes/fastfur.htm#plot

Probably only really worth it if you're into old cars, or like making fun of lame b-movies. :)

You thought it was based on Initial D because 2F2F and FNF are all about racing on mountain passes finding out who the best drift or grip driver is...Maybe you need to watch Initial D...

Japanese street racing (ID) and US street racing have nothing in common...US is all about going straight really fast..big deal.

well no i didnt think that........or maybe i did....... hmmm........

anyways, what i meant was i thought that FF was the US vers. of ID..... but everyone knows that drifting is not mainstream in the US ..... or atleast not yet........

though they say that ID is coming out with the 4th stage magna and remaking 3rd stage.....but this time its not going to be in magna form.... try are going to be using real people...... dont ask were i heard it cuz i cant remember....

:) go frizzen!

i dont like sleepers as much as you guys do tho... heh, well that's just me =)

driving fast in a striaght line isnt completely stupid... it gives people a way to get into the world of cars w/o the danger of something that requires a lot of skill, like drifting. and besides, the people that started it were the old muscle car people..

4th stage is already out in manga...

damn it! i knew i messed up somewhere...... anyways i meant anime....... opps:rolleyes:

Straight drag racing is more about the power of the car where as jap style racing, with the drifting and whatnot is more driving skill oriented. A good racer will have both. A fast car and the skills to use it.
I wouldn't judge a car by the way the driver drifts it or takes corners with it. You start from a stand still and go head to head if ya wanna judge the car.

I think this all started when Nissan made the R32. Ever since then, Japanese cars are fast:)

Rice... i don't know. I'm shure it was around long before the Fast and the Furious. For every car, somone wants to make it go fast (13 second Geo Storm in Sport Compact) and look fast (30% of the Civics i see everyday).

I'd rather just dump $30,000 on an STi :D

:eek: damn man... rice was around before we were born =)

fast cars were all around in the old days... believe it or not, people were running 11 and 10 second 240Zs and pintos back in the old times, when import drag was just starting...

sleeper and performance tuned all the way!

pfft... sleeper my ass...

look loud, be loud, and be fast :)

what exactly do you call someone with a fast car, but with a maxxed out bodykit and mad paint...?

America has its skilled driving sport.... ITS CALLED NASCAR!! no im just kidding everyone I'm really talking about auto-cross auto cross takes LOTS of driving skills. I personally like autoX over drifting. Also sleepers are really cool but the problem is that how are you supposed to have another car wanna race you if they can't tell your car is not just for getting groceries? There's no fun in pulling up to a stop light in say an MN12 (thunderbird) sleeper with tons of modifications and having a crappy teenager pull up by it in a Nissan Stanza (haha) and he doesn't know you want to race.

i only dont like F&F cuz i hate rice rockets (which every friggin car is in F&F). When i saw F&F, the only part that bothered me cause the Black Charger vs. The Supra. The Charger would have smoked that shi**y Supra, i mean, come on, that was what, 900 horses vs maybe 200 - 250. The whole nos thing when they were racing was dumb, but that supra needed it. AMERICAN MUSCLE RULES!

if you have a sleeper, and someone pulls up beside you, they'll thnk its stock. If they rev at you, then you win...but if they are gay ricers, then you rev at them and you win....hahaha so its a sorta win - win situation.

jap cars forever!

edit- but then again...drag racing sucks!

Especcialy in Sears Point. I live in San Jose & I'd go every year exept for the fact you have to wait 8 hours to get in or get out of the tradk & my parents woun't take me because of that.

My mom used to have a Nissan Stanza. They consider in a "wagon" but it really is the 1st Mini Van with dual sliding doors (suck that dodge, lol)

I haven't watched either one. To be honest, I think it's irresponsible to glorify illegal street racing. It's cool and flashy in a movie, but people die in real life. If you race, go to a track! I don't want a member of my family killed because you want to artificially lengthen a short penis. Do you realize that movies like that get all these shmoes in their early twenties so stoked on a competative pissing contest that insurance rates for males of that age are automatically 4 times that of a female? I always thought it was stupid to jump into a high performance car and travel at illegal and insane speeds without any safety gear. None. Real drivers wear four point restraints, fire proof clothes, helmets, neck braces, and use roll bars. But, that's just not cool lookin is it? And if I see one more 90 pound chick deck a 250 pound weight lifter, I'm gonna puke.

Personally, if I had hot rod money, I'd be much more likey to put it into some sort of small aircraft. (Much to the chagrin of my wife.)
Then I wouldnt have to call myself an armchair aviation enthusiast.

Either that, or building a SUPER advanced ROV.
A real toss-up.

I always wanted to do that. An ultralite of some kind. The cost has kept it outta my range. But it would be so cool to build it myself and fly it without needing a license. I'd even rip out a landing strip in the woods at the back of our property. Ahhh, to sleep, perchance to dream...

LOL, strider, small aircraft.... that'd be cool, for sure... but i dunno.. that stuff's pure $$. all my spare money's goin into ricing up my future car.. yeah, you all heard me, rice :D But just cuz it looks overdone doesnt mean it's not going to go fast :). but then again... **sigh** it's still big money regardless of what i want..

as for drag racing.. it's good for people who simply arent that good at driving... autoX is harder than it looks.. drifting is hard And dangerous.. nuff said.

i thought stanzas were S13s... dammit, SOMETHING was an S13 over here, i just dont remember the name..

and Ovgron, that only the NA (naturally aspirating) supras had 220 hp. the stock TT version in america had about 320. that orange supra, while being extremely ricey, actually had some 450 hp. im not talking the stupid sh!t that they say in the movie, but the owner actually dumped a lot of money into that car. still, i wish they didnt paint it orange, slap that gay sticker on it, or put such a..... big.... wing on it.

small aircrafts would work where i live. Abotu 30 miles from ym house there are some dry lake beds that are really warm and windy. Plus, i got a job workin construction with my dad so im now making money.

well i hate f&f.... the point of the movie was to show the world bout strretracing and let the cops to be aware of it...and maybe make nopi richer.... but hell it was tight when the green eclipse blew up....

and bout rice rocket... i hate when ppl use the word rice rockets..(no , i dosn't make you sound asia(it's like using nigga..."god damn your not black")... it 's 1 am and i'm hearing some one tring to drift race bout 1/2 mile from....godDm
... ppl are like ,oh that car's ricey...i'm like damn, that's a @#$#'n civic with typeR stickers (that don't even look anythink to real) and a un silenced muffler...i'm like get back in your mustang...

....and ppl please don't buy those lame AR rims from sears...or that garbage FOCAL..

oh well i'ts late n i'm tired

later

im sick of imports. One reason being that there are so many queers here in vegas with shnitty rice rockets (shouldnt call them rice "rockets", there not that fast). I see so many civics with 25 inch rims and 1 inch of rubber on them. Ill tell you guys a fact, they tried using those thin tires on funny cars, pro streets, etc. (dont know when), they said those tires were too thin and light and couldnt produce enough traction for good racing. Spoilers..... spoilers are usless unless your in a REAL car and are going 150mph or so. Couple hints.... dont take off your muffler and put 20in. rims with 1in of rubber on your car and call it fast, the only thing you did was make it slower. dont add a spoiler, it'll just make more air resistance, becuase chances are that your car is front wheel drive and never goes past 50mph. one more...... DONT PUT ON QUEER BODY KITS! seriously, body kits are so stupid (think of speed bumps). I dont mean to be racist or offend anyone but, in my neighborhood, almost every that is mexican or black has a body kit with the gay tires (you know which ones), and no muffler. They ride down the street listening to nothing but bass (retarded) and go 10 mph all the time, they sit leaned back resting there chin in there right hand and use there rist to steer. this is probably kind of confusing or pointless.

Well, you pretty much slashed everybody there. Gays, blacks, mexicans and asians. I assume you are white, middle class, and heterosexual. Probably really close to being Republican as well. Not sure what blanket terms negatively refering to whole segments of the population have to do with your car rant, but it seems to be very foremost in your mind. Hasn't conservative American become such a wonderful place of brotherhood and love for one's fellow man lately? Perhaps it's all that talk of christian compasion I hear so much about. Saving the world from themselves and such. Ah well, pass the beer and find the remote. Wrasslin's on!

ovgron, i'd hate to take the side of rice, but here it is.

bodykits do help. not those mad-ass veilside or wings west kits, those are pointless, but kits from endless, top secret, top fuel, basically anything of their caliber makes kits that increase the stability of the car. why do track cars not look the same as normal cars? :)

the larger the rim and the smaller the rubber makes more stability. rubber will bend and flex. metal has a harder time flexing. sure, 20 inches is excessive on something that has less than 200 hp... but generally lo-pro tires do help handling a lot.

if it were up to me, my car'd be pure go. but it's not, and im poor so ima settle for show. to a degree.

hehe, lol w/ azimov

my point is that none of them care how there car runs, just how it looks. My dad used to race pro street cars and such, he said to get your engine at its best before you change the body.

Ghetto?

not entirely true.....

go to japan on the freeway and look at the engines of the cars...you will notice that most of the modded cars have a killer engine, as well as a body kit. do you own the PS2 game Tokyo Xtreme Racer Zero? well, rent it and look at the DVD extras, the one entitled "Night Warriors". you will see my point...a lot of those guys are real ricers and a lot of their cars dont have a superly-overdone bodykit, just a bad ass engine and muffler.

but just to stay on topic...

1. i do like F&F AND 2F2F, although the cars are overdone, but what u have to understand is, that the movies arent identical to reality. in fact, much different than reality. those cars are made to look cool and go fast because they were designed for that purpose of having a fast car in a fast car movie.

2. i dont like ricers and their fast ass cars because rice and imports (to me) started after the muscle car era. right after camaros and chevelles came the Datsun (now Nissan) Z brought a whole new meaning to import. and not only did japanese cars evolve, but so did euros. Carmen Ghia became Volkswagen, and Lamborghini started making cars after a history of making tractors. And Ferrari and Audi go way back, and thats when they started to evolve. every other car company around the world copied off the United States. that is a fact that we have to accept. and since rice was a copycat, that is why i dont like it.

sorry, but werent we talking about Japan and Rice cars? this is absolutley unrelated. and in all my trips to las vegas (roughly 50 or so) i have yet to see one car matching your description. and the ones i have seen in other cities dont always go 10 MPH they go speed limit. sorry to announce, but in this portion of the post...

YOU R OFF TOPIC!

sorry, i lost memory of what the japanese freeway was, i meant the Wangan. what a corny name!:D

"my point is that none of them care how there car runs, just how it looks. My dad used to race pro street cars and such, he said to get your engine at its best before you change the body."
-Ovgron


THis is funny. Anyone remember Pro street in the 80s???? At one point in Pro Streets life it was all about looks. A pro street car could be found with wild paint schemes and tons of stickers but no actually real performance. There was actually an article in Car Craft recently about this.

So its not just imports that have done this, pro street did once as well