Toyota bB hits the US shores!

[ShadowMage]

hehe sounds like about where I live...all the kids w/ their cars trying to go all show and sound. Which admittedly I've done with my truck but...then again I'd much rather sink the money into getting me my new xB than trying to get my truck up to spec. It'd be a lot more expensive than trying to trick out the xB.

A vid of an old WRX wasting 'stanks!? DUDE!!! Can you like...post it on here or sum'm!? I really would love to see that! Or could you like make a copy of it and mail it to me? (and I'm 100% serious!) Whatever is feasible/easiest.

LOL and yeah I guess the Celica and xB have a lot in common in that area...they aren't for everyone because of the same reasons. hehe Personally though I like the celica though I don't love it. Now if it were a choice of a 'stank and a Celica I'd get the Celica definitely...tired of mostanks meself. (No offense to the owners thereof ) Now if it were an old fastback....hmmmm...tougher decision. LOL

And yeah I've been looking around for a decent car mag to subscribe to. I've sent in the subscription request to import tuner and super street...just gotta wait the 6 to 8 weeks for processing...blah!

Ouch...sorry to bring up such a sore subject...I'll post something else next time....like a nice supra or....celica or sum'm....

[takumi_drifto]

uh huh...

celicas.. its either u really love um.. or u really hate them... o_O

now as the xB.... its either u love um.. or just ur plain crazy

[ShadowMage]

agreed Takumi!

[bluemax_1]

Pie! There's a 22B in Canada!? Wow, didn't think ANY of them made it to North America, especially since they're all RHD. Yeah, if you have a vid, post it! And wait a minute,... there's a Raliiart in Canada?! Damn, why doesn't the US have any of those. I think they're finally bringing in Ralliart officially now that they've brought in the Lancer Evo, but I haven't heard of a Ralliart shop yet. BTW, Pie, just curious, but are you Chinese and are your parents from Hong Kong maybe? Just wondering about all the "Aiya"s. Wonder how many Chinese/Asian car nuts there are on this forum. I happen to be one, and I think strakka's at least part Chinese too.

As for car mags, think I kinda like Sport Compact Car. They have decent articles, how-to's on mods of different vehicles and they usually have prices for stuff. Can't stand the kinds of mags that are paid by manufacturers to put their product in the magazine but there's no real review of how good the item is and no price. They just put it there as if it's a review but it's basically no better than another ad. Sellouts! Also like the Brit mags, mostly 'cuz they have a interesting sense of humour and they review lots of cars we don't get in North America so they have a better base for comparison. Look at the US Lancer Evo VIII for example, the rest of the world has driven the previous iterations and can compare the VIII to them as well as all the previous STi's and GT-Rs so the US spec Evo VIII sucks in comparison, but the US reveiwers all just go crazy over it. "The new Evo VIII is incredible!!! Blah, blah, blah." Yeah, whatever.

Hmmm... my apartment is beginning to look like a car parts warehouse. Hopefully once all the parts are in, I can get around to reassembling my engine. With all the parts I've got, it should be able to safely handle 1200 hp, but I'm not going anywhere near that much. Darn it, with all the nice weather, I'm impatient to get my VR-4 up and running again!

[strakka]

well, uh, ralliart is a guy on the forum, he's lives in alberta. and im 2 parts chinese lol, i just happen to know japanese, and i dont think that the evo is coming up here.

anyways about the magazines, for performance i look at this one jap mag, i cant remember the name of it, but the mod these sweet jap cars that only they get. yeah in the beginning they just look sweet, but once the mod is done the car not only look nice, it has the speed too! int eh beginning of the article they show the stock performance, and at the end they show its performance with the modifcation done.

but for laughs i read a whole different mag, its chinese, and its all about looks. complete ricer mag. all go no show kinda thing. its just the way the write the articles, makees me laugh soo hard, but then i have to stop laughing quickly b/c theres aways a group of ricers reading the same mag, and they just stare at me like im crazy of something else, then they change their facial expression to the " are you making fun of the mods that ive done to my car??" look so i run away LOL

[bluemax_1]

so ralliart's a person on the forum? Ooops, my mistake. I was kinda wondering why Mitsubishi Ralliart would have a shop in Canada and not open one in the US.

As for ricer mags, ya know, a REAL ricer mag would list all the aesthetic mods done and then tell you how much hp each sticker/decal added, and how much hp each urethane bodypart added, not to mention give you an equation to calculate how much hp you get per added square inch of chrome and... LOL

Reminds me of this car expo, can't remember which one now, or which car it was done to, but one of the booths was showing off a car with lotsa aftermarket parts and of course, the mandatory big 'ol exhaust pipe showing out the rear, but it looked kinda different and if anyone bothered to ask, it turned out that the guys who modded the car didn't have time to put on a real aftermarket exhaust, so they took a shiny tin can, polished it and stuck it on the back to look like it had a big bore exhaust! LOL, funniest part was that they actually got inquiries from some people who thought it looked cool and wanted to know where they could buy this 'exhaust"

[nrmcj]

whoa... i step away for a day.... and BOOM... pages of text

well about that vid.. it's just a 2 minute clip of a subaru wasting the same guy in a mustang over..and over... and over... even from a running start, the subaru catches up and smokes him.. it's kinda fun, especially for me.. cuz i drive down the same road pretty much every day...

if you guys have MSN or ICQ, i can send it to you through there... but my crappy hotmail account wont let me attach files bigger than 1 meg, so e-mailing's out of the question.. i cant say for SURE it's a 22B, because that's the japanese one... rite? (omg.. i have a subaru and yet i dont know anything about them).... well, i can say it looks like bunta's WRX... and it's turbo'd... pretty loud at that too..

hehe, yeah.. ralliart's a person on the forums.. he hasnt been posting lately.... but i'll drive up there and kick his ass... muahahaha!! lol

as for the mags... i want some of those japanese/chinese tuning mags.. too bad i cant read them tho =\. SCC gets REALLY technical.. i think. my knowledge isnt quite up there yet, but yeah.. SS is one step above import tuner... but one odd thing is they dont show the hp the feature cars are making... maybe they think we should be able to calculate it ourselves...

haha, that guy doing the exhaust thing... whoaaa that's poor.. but i guess these days it's getting worse and worse... even the GReddy and TRD tips are thin, unrolled, single walled.... which makes it look cheap and crappy =(. and yeah!! im chinese.. well.. taiwanese... and both my parents are from taiwan. i kinda tend to keep a little more asian "culture", mostly because there's a liiiitle bit of racism going on here.. nothing serious, but everyone gets treated slightly different...

just a question... you guys were for sure into cars b4 u got into bits rite? (duhhhh)... lol, bluemax... are you even into bits at all..? and i just wanna say... ur nuts man! 1200+hp... @_@ you gotta get a pic or vid of this thing..! crazy... (oh yeah.. and how old are you..? hehe i wanna see if i can get up to your skill level by the time im .. ehh/.. however old..)

[bluemax_1]

Pie, pity I don't have MSN or ICQ. As for the 22B, it was a VERY limited edition version of the Subaru WRX with the 2-door widebody kit, a ton of internal mods and RHD only. If you're interested in a little more info, I think I posted some in the "Initial D" thread in the Bit forum.

And as for me personally, yeah, I was into cars waaay before Bits and all came out, but then, I had one of the old school R/C cars waaay before I could drive too. Talking about the kind that used the toggle/dual stick controller for forward, backward and left, right. Also, by the time I put my car back together, it will be able to hold 1200+hp, but I'm not going to mod it that far. That is literally a drag only monster and I'm really not into the whole drag scene. I'm going to push it to about 600 hp. That way, I can still use it as a daily driver, and it can be tuned for practically zero turbo-lag which will make it a good drift/autocross/road course car which is where my interests lie.

I did get into Bits when I first saw one but I've sinced moved on/up. The initial fascination was obviously with the fact that I could have a fully controllable RC car the size of a Hotwheels, but then I discovered DigiQs and once I got one of those, I promptly started giving away my Bits and Bit clones to my friends' kids. Now I only have two clones and one disassembled clone left. The two full clones haven't even been opened up yet. Untouched since I got the DigiQs, but I'll probably give them to more friends' kids when I get around to it. Funny thing is of course, that I'm trying to sell the DigiQs now 'cuz I have an Epoch and a Mini-X and I need a few more parts for the VR-4. Also I'm 31. Might seem like a long way to go for some forum members but I think I read a thread that showed quite a lot of guys my age and older on this forum. Have to admit, that was quite pleasantly surpising. Pity of course that it seems in this area, male hobbyists outnumber females by at least 100:1.

Oh, and I like your mentality about keeping your culture. I'm that way too. Open-minded and willing to explore new things and ideas, but not at the expense of forsaking my heritage and culture. Racism unfortunately exists, but I'm fortunate not to be faced with it very often. Either that or I've learned to ignore it when I do.

[strakka]

As for ricer mags, ya know, a REAL ricer mag would list all the aesthetic mods done and then tell you how much hp each sticker/decal added, and how much hp each urethane bodypart added, not to mention give you an equation to calculate how much hp you get per added square inch of chrome and... LOL

LOL thats almost what it is! LOL seriously though, theyre like " when you add a carbon fiber hood your car will gain 5 HP because of the loss weight" LOL

are we here in canada allowed to get skylines? b/c i had to deal with alot of bull from this guy today. he kept saying his friend just got a skylne, so i asked him where he got it from, and he said it came from the US. i was like ok was it from an importing company (motorex) and he was like yeah it was. by this time i realized that he was lying, so i asked him if the car was "castraded" (sp??) and he said no it wasnt. i wanted to yell LIAR!!!!!!!!!! YOU CANT GET A SKYLINE LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!! but i knew that would do no good b/c he was soo wrapped up in it. i decided to test his knowledge of the car. my first question to him was what year is it? 1998 he says. so its a R33 then.
him- "no its a R34! STUPID!!!!!"
me- "R34 Z-spec?? thats like the fastest one out there!"
him- "yeah it was the Z-spec, i remember now"
me- "wow thats soo cool, the Z-spec has a 5.0 liter engine in it! i soo wish i had that car"
him- "yup its one kick @$$ car"

LOL i was thinking of continuing, but i was about to laugh my head off. that might have given it away though.... LOL

[nrmcj]

doh... well, hmmm i think u can find it on kazaa... nottoo sure tho.. but for sure it's not a 22B then.. it's a 2 door, but no widebody... and i cant see the driver, but im assuming he's on the left side... (it's a promo video for a tuning shop opening here)

ohh so ur not into bits anymore eh? well... yeah, i guess they're here to tide people over 'til they get the real car... oh, and.. uh VR-4's are a little heavy rite? what with all that AWD... good drifter, but for autocrossing, wouldnt it have a little bit of.. trouble? just wondering.. i personally dont know much about that car. hehe =). still.. cant argue with 600+ hp... do you have a camera..? i wanna see this thing!! oo mini-z's... they look like hella fun, but **sigh** so much money to make them fast... no celi body, and 8 or so batteries to get it running... $$$...

oo yeah, and when did you get ur car? and like.. how did you go about fixing it up? like.. start out with intake/exhaust... then work it up from there..? or just drop straight into the engine?

strakka: i think canada's emmisions regulations are pretty much the same as in the US, but.. maybe even a little looser... for sure, you can get a skyline up here... a kinda sorta friend of mine in vancouver has a 34... bastard... but it's been dropped to about.. well he did a dyno run bone stock when he got it in, and it was maybe about 240 hp..? pretty poor... but when i was there in the summer he brought me to a shop and had another run done, and he turned out about 340... he started explaining all the tuning and parts to me, but i was just like . .. he's smart.. and rich.... dammit! lol

ask that dude what castrated means... =) and damn.. that's pretty poor... how old was he?! if he's younger than you just smack him...

[dabigpig]

damn man people talkin real performance on an import i didn't think i'd see the day! hehe as i read u guys talk about imports with bad gas economy i'm thinking about how much gas my dad's explorer or my van eats/guzzles/gobbles/chugs and i'm starting to think that geting an import might not be such a bad idea. Then i think about snow and how much more fun it is with 4x4 then i get confused and start pulling hair outa my head.

[bluemax_1]

strakka, amusing to listen to people trying to brag about things they don't really have a clue about isn't it? Although listening to my buddy with the Prelude trying to give me advice gets a little old sometimes

And Pie, yes the VR-4 is a very heavy car. Stock weight is about 3800lbs. But if you know how to do it, you can put the car on a drastic weight loss plan. The amount of weight you lose depends on how much money you spend. Obviously there are the free weight reduction things like removing the rear seat, the spare tire and everything in the trunk along with insulation, A/C, stereo and all that. Depends on how crazy/specialised you want to get. If the car is for the track only, you can take out lots of stuff, but if you want to use it as a roadgoing car, then you'ld probably want to leave some of the comfort items in. Weight reduction in the 300-500lb range isn't really too difficult, which brings the weight of the car down in the Skyline GT-R V-spec (3500lbs) to Supra Turbo/ Porsche 911 Turbo (~3300lbs) category. But if you want to get really crazy and cost isn't a problem, it's actually possible to reduce the weight to about 3000lbs and under.

SCCA autocrossing isn't really this car's forte. The SCCA autocross courses tend to favor smaller, lighter cars because the courses are usually quite tight and narrow. Rarely ever higher than 3rd gear and generally not even to the top of 3rd. My Golf could be a better contender for SCCA autocrossing. The Japanese style autocrossing which they call gymkhana though, are a little different, and this car can compete pretty well. In the 600hp category, it would also be in the realm of JGTCC. But to tell you the truth, my real interest is in road courses. Performance in real world driving is my passion, which is why of all the kinds of televised racing, I prefer WRC events and Japanese gymkhana(which obviously is practically impossible to find). Unlike Nascar and F1, these races tend to feature cars which are much closer to those attainable by the average person.

I got my VR-4 a while back. Before that I had a MkIII Supra Turbo which I modded and raced in California. And of course I have my little VW Golf. Yes, the easiest way to start modding a VR-4 or any turbocharged car is with the intake, exhaust, boost controller and gauges, BOV etc. The stock bottom end of a VR-4 is actually capable of holding 600+hp, and I didn't mod any of the engine's internals until the shop spun the rod bearing. I figured since I had to pull the engine apart and rebuild it, I might as well look at the pricing for aftermarket internals and see how much more they cost. From there, I made the decision to put in the parts I chose to make a more or less 'bulletproof' engine in the 600hp range. Some people will say it's overkill since the parts are capable of holding 1200hp, but hey, it just means that the statistical possibility of failure at lower hp is drastically reduced. As for pics of the car, I only have a normal camera. No digital camera or scanner to post pics with.

Hey dabigpig, you could always go for a VR-4 or a Lancer Evo or WRX. Imports AND 4WD.

[strakka]

yeah, it was amusing, until i told him that there is no Z-spec skyline, or a 5.0 liter engine skyline. maybe next time i'll tell him that it might be a R35? see what he says

about gymkhana........ yeah it is kinda like JGTC racing but there not sponsered........ kinda...... and sometime there on a different platform

and i dont really like F1 or Nascar b/c you cant drive a F1 on the road and Nascar requires no driving skills. i mean its a oval track! how hard could it be!

and ..... uh....... im stupid b/c dont know what you guys mean by wide body.... can you give me a pic??

[bluemax_1]

Actually, the main difference between gymkhana and JGTC racing is in the tracks. JGTC races are held on real racing tracks like Suzuka and Sepang (both of which are on the F1 circuit) whilst gymkhana are usually held on smaller tracks that are pretty much purpose built for them. Gymkhana are similar to SCCA autocross but not exactly. There are quite a few 'works' teams in gymkhana. Bozzspeed, Top Speed, etc. Mostly tuning shops. The difference is also in driving styles. While JGTCC racing is pretty much similar to GT racing anywhere in the world (grip driving) with the exception of the incredibly tuned Japanese cars and even Ferraris and Lamborghinis, gymkhana tracks are tighter and the whole track is usually visible from the stands. Gymkhana tracks are suited to drifting and the cars are tuned likewise. That's why I prefer them to 'time attack' racing.

Of the three kinds, cars used for gymkhana are closest to what you could drive on the road, and in fact, there are quite a few competition cars that are street driven. JGTC and time attack cars generally aren't very streetable.

Oh, and if you want to see the difference between the 22B and a regular type-R non-widebody. Try doing a search under "WRX STi 22B" and another one under "WRX P1". The P1 is a normal type-R body and the 22B was the limited edition widebody (like the actual WRC Subaru) with wide fenders. The 22B looks much more aggressive.

[nrmcj]

aww man!! u had a MKIII?! **sigh**... i dont know much about those.. but they're still supras hmmm looks like i still need one hell of a lot of knowledge b4 i start doing anything... hell, i dont even know how to install an intake... =\ or exhaust for that matter... but that needs a big car-lifty-thingy...

i saw a rally in newfoundland the other day... a lot of different cars, basically racing on marked out, blocked off public roads.. it was pretty interesting, cuz they had vipers, cobras, 240Zs, mustangs.. all sorts of cars...

is gymkhana... well... street cars on VERY tight, small courses...? cuz i think i know a page with video clips full of that stuff. hmm sounds like fun tho... i want me a car... other than my wagon... lol. hmmm autocrossing.. i THINK is where you mark out a path with pylons and run for the fastest time rite? and.. there's actually a league-ish kinda thing for that..? (hehe, im stupid).. and yeahh... nascar/F1/high level Drag is boring... all the cars arent even what they used to be, just a shell with a monster engine sitting in it... what's the fun if you cant drive it on the street?

oh, and strakka, widebody... is... well, widebody... ehh, look at these pics.. (Normal, non-widebody)