Neo Magnets

[neurokinetik]

Honestly, the PN Neos work a little better for me. The problem with Drac's magnets is that they really kill top speed on a motor due to their strength. A motor that uses Drac's magnets also will not coast. With AWD, it is not so bad, it just means that the car brakes hard every time you let off the throttle. With RWD, the rear wheels lock, and the car spins out.

[TypeZer0]

jus curious, where are you shopping for the PN racing stuff?

[xxspeednplayaxx]

www.rcmart.com really long load times

[cdog4w]

http://www.pnracing.us/

They have the BB case, neo mags, even carbon brushes if you know what to do with those :P (I certainly don't).

I picked up a spare 2WD motor for my mini-x that I'm going to mess with. I'm probably not ever going to run it since I love me some 4WD, but it should be a good little engine to play with the insides of a motor.

[neurokinetik]

Originally posted by TypeZer0
jus curious, where are you shopping for the PN racing stuff?

Now that you mention it, I am actually using the Yeah Racing ones from rcmart. Not the PN Racing as I originally stated. They are both the thin Neo type, though, and that is what is important. The one stup they have with the BB can and thin Neos already installed is the way to go.

[cdog4w]

http://www.yeahracing.com

heh, theres no way to buy anything that they have there. No buttons to add to cart etc. Maybe its a new page that they just put up.

So you think the PN BB can and Neos should be fine though?

Thanks neuro.

[TypeZer0]

Originally posted by xxspeednplayaxx
www.rcmart.com really long load times

yeah, i only knew this site cuz i think neuro mentioned it but i rather not buy from an HK site, delivery takes a while. totally forgot about pn racing's own site

13 bucks for a pnracing can..yeesh. rather get a complete 180 motor from towerhobbies for a lil less

[Draconious]

I will note that I have seen others complain about the magnets they bought (NOT MINE!), the PN mangets they got corroded, the nickle plating "fell off" or whatever... but only 2 instances of this have been brought to my attention... might be more might not be... I have some cheap neo magnets I got from ebay before I got my motor magnets... and these cheap ebay magnets small tiny disks, like the squat magnets... are also falling apart... sort of rusting if you will... and once they rust the coating cant stay together.... so far as I know this has not, and will not happen to my magnets, the coating is thicker...

I fail to see how the PN magnet can actualy be called better...
Its weaker, less durrable, and has a weaker heat threshold, even if the differences are minimal...

If a motor winding matches a PN magnet strength better then mine it will go faster I guess, but if it matches my magnets strength it will go even faster yet... the problem lies in that I have no clue what "matches" my magnets... was hoping every one would supply feed back on that, but aint gotten much... It is possible the Xmod motors just cant handle them though... I dont know what type of internals are in an Xmod motor... (what type of brushes does the Xmod have? no one has answered that question for me yet!)

If your motor "drags" too much try re-orienting the magnets in the motor can... rotate one so the colored side is in the can and one faces out of the can or something... I painted the red black on them my self... so if the orientation matters, it might need to be rotated... I realy dont think it does though cuz the poles are from inside to outside of can... and make sure the bearings are rotating freely that the can is not crooked... the slightest offset with out a bearing can, will DEFINATLY cause drag... reason I prefer ball bearings you can kinda be off a little, but even then its gota be relatively inline...

[neurokinetik]

Maybe I should try that 21 turn double with your magnets. I dunno, it seemed like the guys at Mini-Zracer.com were having a hard time finding the right combo with them as well. They are great for making monster torque, but very hard to get the speed. I'll try rotating one and see if it helps.

[arch2b]

i think neuro has a good understanding of the pros and cons of a motor with the magnets. my monster a-bb with drac neo's has enough torque/power to pull wheelies in overlands from a dead stop but you loose slow speed control. there is a fine balance out there to be had by someone with enough time and experience to find it. i would love to know what it is myself

if you like to fool around with making motors, you cna't go wrong with getting a pair of drac's neo's.

[IBAUCLAPla]

I have a RSX that I want to use for all round racing. My friends use stage two 11t sb hybrids so I want to have a higher top speed than my friends and more torque than their car. I have AWD, bearings, CF driveshaft, and hard suspension all round on my RSX. I ordered two sets of neo mags off rcmart.com. Now like I said I want to beat my friends off line and alone race w/ my engine. Right now all i have is the stage two engines and 22 26 and 30 gauge wire. What do you recommend I do with my motor. I am prob going to try blue with neos first and if that don't work then i am goin to wrap a 38 turn 26 gague motor and try it with those. How do you think that will work for RSX.

Now I also have a strictly drag supra that is RWD and has nothing on it as of now. I have the cf driveshaft and bearings to use for it. I want to probably buy a few 180 motors and try diff wraps on those. I want this car to absolutely whop ass in 40-100 ft drag races. What do you recommend I wrap the 180 motor w/? How many wraps. I will use the neos too. I don't want to upgrade the fet because it is too complicated. Thanks for all the hlep

[Desslok]

Drac how do I contact you to purchase a set of your neo's ?
your website in your profile doesent seem to work.
thx

[neurokinetik]

http://www.draconious.com/

[Draconious]

Hmm forgot my old .net url was in profile.. lol...
But yes its in my mini-z "product" page... not much of a web store but it sometimes works...


I guess if I ever get my lazy arse to do any more tests, the next test will be to try a pair of my magnets that I broke in half in a motor can... so there is half a magnet on either side of the armature... trick is to find a way to hold them in..............

(dont go breaking your mangets in half, they sometimes shatter into small pieces if you do it on purpose).

[Desslok]

What I would really like to see is a good set of neo's for a 180 motor!!