"SuperCharged 5 Cell" SPEC2 SKYLINE GTR - Page 2

MicroRCracer · #16 09-15-2002, 12:56 PM

it handles real well since i lowered the rear end a little more . wish they would have ball diffs though.. my 5 cell only flips over if im going full speed on carpet and then making a fast turn..im using the kyosho perfex transmitter where i can adjust the dual rate steering just right for turning conditions..i also mastered the steering of this car to accomodate racing conditions and throttle to not floor it when only needed to..it is tempting though since i always get throttle happy and thats what makes me spin out at times..

MicroRCEngineering · #17 09-16-2002, 01:12 AM

Micromotori,

I like the idea. I would like to know if you would be willing to do a comparison test against my mini Z's. This is not a challenge. It is only to see how my mini Z will do compared to your Modded Epoch. I don't doubt that it's fast, but I'm really curious because I have never seen something smaller than a mini Z go faster than a mini Z. Let me know if you are interested.

I'm done with the challenge. this is just for comparison. I wouldl love to see an 1/43 beat a 1/28th. and if you're cool with it, 1/28th on a 1/28th.

Good luck on the auction, and congratulations. I bumped into your auction, as I was looking for an epoch (which made me curious/impressed because your ad said, "beats a mini Z".

This is NOMOTORLIMIT, btw, just in case. I know that you are Micromotori. I'm only mentioning who I am to clear the picture. btw, when tinyrc.com first came out, my original name was micromotori. It's a micro world after all.

MicroRCracer · #18 09-16-2002, 05:23 PM

I'll take you up on that for the comparison later in the future when the waves settle down, but not right early around the moment...however, your offer is appreciated..

Just in case of being misunderstood, my suped up 5 cell Epoch Spec 2 creation isnt intended to beat heavily modified mini-z's for a straightaway top-speed contest(who knows? maybe later on it will though, somewhat..), but this amazing "half the mini-z size" contender does prove to hang or straight up win, in small to medium mini-z tracks consisting of major road course turns and small to medium sized back-stretched straightaways against modified mini-z's.. As far as Epoch Dragster Speed, I can only tell you this much, that, this car will surely smoke a stock mini-z with a 9 to 10 tooth pinion, racing for topspeed.. On office carpet, the high torque of this car grips well and takes off like a speedy roach.. Being the only top contending Epoch amongst the Mini-z's at the track is very exciting and hoping i wont be the only one, for maybe later, Epoch Spec 2's will evolve or multiply in no time for the next Micro Rc talk of the town...

Btw, i got the micromotori name from my Picco engines. It guess it is very coincidental though..

MicroRCEngineering · #19 09-17-2002, 03:08 PM

Sounds good. The mini Z I plan to compare it with won't be my Heavily Modded Mini Z (35 mph). that is out of commission right now.

I am interested in comparing it to one of my ordinary mini z's.

How does it compare to a Z with an X-speed?

MicroRCracer · #20 09-17-2002, 05:55 PM

Ive raced with several guys with X-speeds on a medium track and seem to keep up or take them on turns or straightaways. havent really dragged raced any X-speed Z's, but i think i can either beat'em or atleast hang with them..I'll race my friend(s) on carpet and tell you the results when i get the chance.

MicroRCracer · #21 09-25-2002, 02:43 PM

I just raced the xspeed(9t pinion) mini-z with full ball bearings and beatem' on a carpet drag race by about 10-12 mini-z car lengths!! I pulled the Z off the start by a lot since my car is much lighter and until the end of the 40 ft. line!! Oh what a feeling!! I love what Epoch does for me!!

MicroRCEngineering · #22 09-26-2002, 05:24 PM

That's pretty good. How do you think it will do against mini z motor with a Tamiya mini 4wd armature? (I'm not trying to bring something from the past, but you know very well that Xspeed is no longer the top notch motor) But overall, that's pretty good. Let me know if/when you would allow me to do a comparison with my mini Z powered by my own (personally hand wound) motor. I'm curious, and i'm sure some readers are as well.

MicroRCracer · #23 09-27-2002, 02:15 AM

Ok Rod..Sounds good..Hehe!! Cant get enough of this Epoch!! Hehe!! It is really amazing though how a small 1/43 car and smaller size motor than the mini-z is out of the 1/28th scale class and teaches a mini-z a funny lesson on the roadcourse or mild mini-z mod drag racing.. I'll let you know someday when I'm done with experimenting on handwound turns of the Epoch armature and experimenting on other kinds of FETS to make Epoch have NOMICROMOTORILIMIT or battery limit...Just dont want to lose my focus on being on a role right now, since i think Im into a new possible break through again!! Anyways, I'll let you know once the Epoch Racing and Development is fully situated to the fullest...

gertman · #24 09-27-2002, 02:23 AM

Why don't you let the guy put a 10, 11 or 12 tooth pinion on a GPM mod motor. Are you reaching top speed in the alotted distance? Is the Mini-Z? Are you beating him in acceleration and top speed? What kind of tires is the Mini-Z using? Is he spinning his tires at the start-up?

You realize, you now have out cell'ed the Mini-Z so really beating one is not such a far reach.

MicroRCracer · #25 09-27-2002, 02:48 AM

Gertmeister,

Im just sharing an experience that MicroRcEngineering got me curious to do in comparing speeds with an average modified Mini-Z...I think im beating my buddy's mini-z on speed and acceleration.. I peel out more than the Mini-Z off the start and still woop him..Basically, cant really floor it cuz it might fish-tale.. Just to let everybody know, My Epoch is not meant to be a full dragster mini-z killer...These are just comparison tests which look very funny or amazing when a 1/43 Epoch beats a 1/28 Mini-Z, when its supposed to be out of its league..Im still working on my Epoch Racing and Development in conducting various experiments to have the fullest raced out staged Epoch Spec2 Racer that will probably or most likely beat a GPM motorized Mini-Z whether its on the track or drag and top end speed!! Right now, im on like stage 2 or 3 and want to reach like stage 10 or somethin'...

tinyrc · #26 09-27-2002, 01:36 PM

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Ok Rod..Sounds good..Hehe!!

Hey, it's great to see you two getting on okay again!

e_lm_70 · #27 11-25-2002, 04:48 AM

MicroRCracer:

Have you just add a 5th cell on your Epoch, or made some further tuning?

My 4 cell Epoch can't compate at all in speed and acceleration with my Mini-Z F1 with just a X-Speed motor.

The speed checker report 28km/h for Mini-Z against 17km/h for Epoch ! Visually the two look very very different in power !

The Mini-Z F1 has a far better traction compared to the Epoch.

I can just guess that on a Track is the better dirver how is winning, since they are both difficult to drive at 100% possibility. BTW the Mini-Z F1 with a break has a futher advantage on handling !

e_lm_70

P.S: I don't like the impact of a 5th cell on epoch, I don't like to cut the body for it ! I'm thinking of unbuild a 9V NiMh (or NiCd) batt and trying to get out 5 cell or 6 cell in a small size.
Other way is using the smallest NiMh cell, it is just 12x6 (43mAh) or 12x3 (22mAh)

MicroRCracer · #28 11-27-2002, 09:51 PM

e_lm_70,

I modified the FET, fine tuned my suspension, semi-glued the wheels so they dont come off and the rehandwinded the armature.. I wish i could race against your mini-z F1 for fun to show you the biggest difference in speed and handling, especially with in small to medium narrow tracks..

e_lm_70 · #29 11-28-2002, 02:31 AM

Where is located the FET on the Epoch ?

... I don't think I will ever rewind my engine ... only if I will buy a spare engine first ! But this means to make a second order from HLJ, the only shop so far that as delivered just half of the ordered goods !

I have just made a booster Epoch, with 6 cell.
The speed now is 26km/h so close to my Mini-Z X-Speed.
I believe that for me the easier way to get more speed is to find a longer gear.

Accelerating full power is hard on a standard flat floor, since the diff tend to transfer more power on one side. On a carpet the car is more controllable !

e_lm_70

P.S: It look like that there is a possibility for me to be in US for 3 months for a possible project in California ... if so maybe I will be able to check live your skils as a driver and as a 'mod'er !

PP.SS: This weekend I should go on a indor track in Austria, I will be able to compare my 6cell epoch with my F1 X-Speed, but I believe that the Mini-Z shuld be at least 20% faster on lap time !
http://www.subau.at/rc/reportage_indoor01.htm

PPP.SSS: Also my wheels tend to get often off, so far I just add some tape in the middle for make more strong the connection.

MicroRCracer · #30 11-28-2002, 05:12 PM

e_lm_70 :

Sounds good!! Can we see a picture of your 6 cell Epoch? What body are you using or are you not using a body at all? I think i will try the 6 cell mod too, but use the lancer or impreza body to see if it fits under the shell. Would be nice to meet you some time in california when you get here.. I would like to race with you and compare both modded epochs.. Oh yeah, for the wheels, just use mechanics silicone instead of tape. It allows it to be taken off if needed to and doesnt stretch the plastic of the wheels.. Would be nice to get together someday!