03-21-2003, 03:23 AM
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Location: Indy, IN, USA
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I just got one of the Palm-Runners off ebay in the mail today.
Thunder-Mars. Made my HeiPao. Non-propo. No front syspension. The diff is notchy (probably a sprue they didn't clean up). The tires are harder to make hook than you'd believe. The remote is uncomfortable. The steering wheel has about half an inch of travel, with 3/8" being dead-zone, the throttle has more dead zone going forward than it does reverse. The foam wheel cover on the transmitter is loose, so it needs glued. The battery sticker in the transmitter is incorrect if you follow the battery pic (it has + and - drawn backwards) And it's in a bizarre freq. (45 mhz) so I can't tell if it could be propo if the transmiter was better.
But, for the price it's pretty cool. It's a little slow for my tastes. But with the amount of wheel-hop it gets.... And on hardwood and linoleum, you can drift it pretty well. Turning radius is a little large for my tastes as well.
I'd say if you absolutely need to get one of these low-end clones, go for the ones with mini-z style tx.
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03-21-2003, 09:19 AM
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Aren't the actual Palm-Runners made by Kyosho as a cheaper Mini-Z alternative? I remember them from about a year ago, and there is a Kyosho info page for them. Made to fit the Z bodies and wheels/tires and stuff, but be less expensive.
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03-22-2003, 04:08 AM
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So, you're saying I actually bought a clone of the low-end version Kyosho sells to people too cheap to buy a real Mini-Z?
Hahahahaha, yeah that sounds about right for my normal luck... 
Oh well, the price was good, and now I have a nice test-bed to hack and mangle. 
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04-08-2003, 10:17 AM
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NO IT'S NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!!! IT'S A CLONE FOR GOD SAKES!!!!! SOMEONE'S TRYING TO RIP U OFF... U THINK THAT'S WORTH IT!!!!!
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04-13-2003, 12:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: usa,new york
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they suck
those mini z clone suck i should know cause i have one. it does not have prop steering the knobs on the controller does not work it is there for cosmetic purpose but there is a good point to those clone i can do stuff to it that i would never do to my mini z , all the hop ups fit ,i tried them , the power sucks so i installed ,temporarly a turbo to it an extra battery compartment ,radio shack , slot car drag wheels in the rear ,foam deep dish , hit the throttle smack it at high speed in to my wall l, got damn that car moved, purchased another one trying to come up with another idea to destroy it .
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04-13-2003, 10:13 PM
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Location: Los Angeles
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Palm runner cars are basically the same as mini-z cars...except they run on two AA batteries instead of four...and the controller isn't as good... but the car IS proportional (throttle and steering)
"You'll be amazed at the authentic display-quality exterior detail of these palm-sized 5" long (scale: 1/28) Palm Runner. Their true-scale bodies feature such fine touches as headlights, rear wings and decals for accurate markings. Inside, high-tech engineering produces exceptionally realistic performance -- with forward and reverse two-wheel drive, fully proportional steering, sophisticated suspension action, real car-like acceleration, braking, and more.
Each Palm Runner comes factory-built and complete with everything you'll need for operation (except alkaline batteries). There's nothing to glue or paint. The electronics and radio equipment -- including a 2-channel transmitter, high-frequency speed control and special miniature servo -- is all so well-designed that it's simple to use and maintain. Display them...drive them...set up a course using the cones and speed bumps and race against another Palm Runner. In an area as compact as 3' x 6' (floor or tabletop), you can enjoy a thrilling contest with up to 2 models competing at once (ID 2 & ID 4 bandwidths).
Ships complete with pre-built chassis, they share the same pre-painted bodies as the Mini-Z Racer. A 2-channel wheel-type transmitter is also included. Each sturdy car features genuine front & rear suspension. When not in use, they look great just sitting atop a PC. If your other car is really a Porsches or Viper, now's your chance to boast about it.
Requires: 2 x "AA" alkaline batteries for the car, 1 x 9V battery for the radio transmitter (neither included). Length: Up to 12.5cm / Width: 6.5cm / Height: 3.8cm / Weight (chassis): 170g / Weight (transmitter): 160g."
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05-04-2003, 02:25 AM
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clones are junk pure and simple...
The only reason they exist is to truck ppl into thinking its a mini-z only recently are they now ADMITING its not a mini-z on the auctions, in the beggining the box was very poor copy of the Mini-Z box.. very obvious they wre out to screw ppl.. it cost them about 1$ to make and box the entire thing... they are only now changing their ways, cuz no one is buying the pieces of crap.
they are NOT mini-Z.. in any way shape or form... even the bodies are TRASH.
The hei poa is 10x worse then the takaros, the takaros is 10x worse then the palm runner, and the palm runner is only 1/10th of the car the Mini-Z is...
Do not give these clone makers your money... they are breaking laws making these products.
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05-05-2003, 08:36 AM
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The palm runner DOES NOT HAVE PROPORTIONAL CONTROL. it is a cheap version of the mini z with none of the features.
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06-23-2003, 03:02 PM
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Location: Memphis
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Clones
Well i getting a clone off ebay for the low price of 15 dollars shipped. so i dont care its cheap and i hope worth it.
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06-23-2003, 11:44 PM
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I luv LEDs
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Location: Toronto Canada
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it's not worth it.... maybe $5.00 is worth it, but not $15....
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08-11-2003, 01:54 PM
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Location: San Diego, CA
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You people arent listening!!!
Heipaos suck!
Heipao=Heipaocrap!
Here is a picture of the controller's main board.....(Top)
Yes, I admit it, I got one once when I wasn't Mini-Z smartly.
I'm sorry........ 
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08-13-2003, 01:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Flux49Mhz
I really must update my signature
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What does this have to do with what we r talking about?
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08-16-2003, 04:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by SkyLiNEz 4-eva!
What does this have to do with what we r talking about?
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I'm wonderin' the same thing! 
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11-11-2003, 03:04 PM
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MY ENZO!!!!!!
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11-12-2003, 07:01 PM
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I saw those things. They are gonna' make me puke! Heipao?! What kind of name is that? Doesn't matter, those things aren't good. How could anyone defend them? So they look like Mini-Zs. So what? Some kids tell me I look like Steven Tyler. To tell the truth, I have no clue what he looks like, but even if I do, I don't sing like him! Those things clearly aren't good, if they were, they wouldn't copy Kyosho. 
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