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Old 01-18-2003, 10:46 AM
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heh, yeah... it's a good deal, those clones... if you break them, you can jack the parts and use them for your *best* car... i have yet to get anything other than my bit... but in a week or so im gonna go down to zellers and get that KIT racer... if i havent fixed my steering by then, well maybe even a clone to tear apart..

thx for feelin C_CRX!!
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Old 01-18-2003, 05:55 PM
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hey, do u know which zellers has the kit racers?
my friend just bought they project D set from WEM at commex hobbie yesterday, and today he bought drift tires....what a guy...haha. i only have a clone too and no BCG,,,haha so im with pig. and i also have the tunder fighter. omg i cant wait till i get money!!!!!

HEY, would it work if you took scotch tape and taped the back tire? then if will drift?
i just tested it out and it could do 180 runs pretty good. im gonna try my friends drift set and compare...hahaha

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Old 01-19-2003, 12:18 AM
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I believe dabigpig went to Red Deer to get the KIT Racer at Zellers. Looks like 3 of us on this thread have Thunder Fighters! I own 3 TFs myself and find them to be quite adequate. Haven't done much modding to my machines lately and that sux... need a track more than anything at the moment!!

Scotch tape sounds like a very unique idea. I've never seen drift tires up close but I'm gonna give the tape a try soon. Thanks!
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Old 01-19-2003, 12:52 AM
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hey CRX, my friend just came over and we played with the drift tires...they are plastic, but have groves in them....u can easily spin out with them.

my friend has a problem. his bit char g, initial d set, is going VERY slow...he chrages it until the light turns off and it runs really slow....we checked the gears and nothing was stuck in them. the motor sounds weak. he said that the battery doesnt smell right, i couldnt smell it because i have a cold. i dont know....it should be faster. he can walk faster than it. are bit char g's that slow when they are stock?
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Old 01-19-2003, 02:16 AM
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Your friend was pretty unfortunate. I personally love Intial D and intend to buy that exact same set except, it only comes with a 1.0 engine! Weakest of the weak, replace that sucker ASAP with a 2.2+ and he should be more satisfied. The other reason may be lack of traction from those drift tires but I bet it's the engine. I strongly suggest he get a Hotwheels MPH or RPM KIT Racing car at either Walmart or Zellers (they are only $10). He'll get a REAL Tomy 2.6 engine and real Tomy battery. Hopefully that helps him!

PS- I LOVE the look of that set. Something about the RX7 and AE86 that just screams classic and to be drifted.. damn drool all over now!

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Old 01-19-2003, 02:01 PM
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**gurgle** initial....D..... mmmmmmm....

i made a longass post last nite.... but i guess it didnt go thru properly! ><"

oh well... ralliart, C_CRX is absolutely right... the 1.0 is the weakest engine out there.... aside from a busted one... i thought that my bit had a problem when i first got it, having a 1.0.... but that's really how slow the motor is... at least i never ran it off my desk or anything =). some people say the torque is good, but i found that it sux... blue gears cant even make it run on carpet, while my 3.0(supposedly weak torque) can run thick carpet with teal gears...

as C_CRX said, anything 2.2 or above would make him happy... i hear kit racer motors have a better reputation, but i havent tested it... any confirmations from anyone here?

also, i hear that the drift set is Very useful for the suspension arms.. they do change the car's handling quite a bit, but probably the most useful thing to get is the tireset... i found that for any track, i can make my car handle any way i want it to, just mixing up the front and back according to the surface.. all i need now is to punch holes in that darn stiff white suspension thing..

C_CRX, if you're willing to wait til about mid april, you could get the Initial D set for about 45-50 dollars.. Canadian! that's even cheaper than a normal bit here... but if ur willing to wait

(i think the prices here are about... $75+)

ps. i fixed my steering!! i got sooo mad and tore the thing apart again, straightened the spring, and bang! it steers straighter than when it came out of the box! for some reason, if the springs are bent downwards (looking from the side), like, hooked down a LITTLE bit, i think it works much better... but looking from the top, they should be straight..
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Old 01-19-2003, 03:28 PM
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pie-- it's good to hear that the steerings back to normal and yes the kit racers are a definete must for all cars. i got the rpm and next time im in town i want to get a MPH/KPH one for anothor battery and extra motor just incase i let the smoke out of the on i am using. the RPM and the MPH/KPH have a real TOMY 2.6 motor and a TOMY battery (can't remember what MAh cuz i don't have it near me) so get either one if you want sticky tires get the RPM they are orange and you'll notice a big improvement. i even noticed that after i put the sticky tires on i went straiter because the back end won't slip and slide when i punch it off the line but it still will drift after the tires get some crap on them from the floor, so this is perfect, great grip off the line with clean tires and then you get to driving and it starts to drift because crap from the floor sticks to the tires.

ralliart-- your friend should also try to dubble charge the car. A 2.2+ motor will eat batterys faster than a 1.0 so this will also improve runtimes.
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Old 01-19-2003, 04:17 PM
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ahh ic...i have a tomy 2.6 and 3.0 rite now... (the 2.6 in a microsizer package, 3.0 in a bit racer package)... in about a week i'll have the time to go look around for the kit racers... i believe the batteries are still 50 mAh.. they're the same color and size (i think, even though i looked at it through the plastic chassis thingy) hmmm do the orange tires have treads on them? or are they simply slicks? my friend's pretty skilled with a knife, and he cut treads into the stock BCG tires... not only are they squishy soft, but now they grip like mad.. (unltil they pick up so much crap that they spin out)

i was thining.. how was that forklift thingy? cuz i was looking around, a 150 mAh battery sells for about 5-6 american on most sites... and well, if you just jack the batteries from that forklift, it's about the same price... and with dual cell 150 mAh, the run times are longer, and you get one hell of a speed boost...
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Old 01-19-2003, 04:30 PM
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you inspired me to take a look at the batterys and more importantly open this thing up to see the chip while i had it out here is a pic of the PCB
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Old 01-19-2003, 04:35 PM
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then we have the front motor
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Old 01-19-2003, 04:36 PM
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hears an idea of how big it is
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Old 01-19-2003, 04:38 PM
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oh ya and the batterys the one on the left is the kit racer the one on the right is the forklift's battery as you can see they are the same size (excelent) and the forkift is a 80mAH
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Old 01-19-2003, 04:43 PM
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great idea i could use this pcb in a real bit to control the full directions forword backword (left motor up down button) left turn right turn (right motor up down button) slow pulsing circuit (forks up button) boost full dual cell (forks down button). I could then go farther by puting it into an atari controler or an old sega controler then i won't have to think about what button to push to go left and right.
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Old 01-19-2003, 04:54 PM
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thx everyone, i'll tell my friend to not worry about it and tell him to go to buy a new motor.

i opened up the PCB last night and it was pretty scary. those wires are soooo thin. how do u get those out of the way when u are switching batteries?
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Old 01-19-2003, 05:07 PM
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ok well be very carefully
use something like a tiny jewlers screwdriver as an extention of your own treetrunk-like fingers (thats what i do)
ummm also the most important thing to do is to be carefull a little patients goes a long long way




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