found these at the mall - one of those kiosks stores. What was nice is they had 4 frequencies.
Car and setup are more like the Bits.
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Even between these 2 they are not the same. One will interchange gears with the zip the other won't. They both can use the Zip axles.
The motors on these are more powerful (maybe more torque) than the Zips. I put a zip motor in one of them and it has a hard time moving.
Price was more than a Zip.