counter steer

[sachemtacl]

wut is counter steering and how do u do it

[silentracer]

counter steering is when u well counter the direction ur steering in to the other way, litteraly. this is a key manuver in drifting. during a drift, in order to keep ur car side ways, u cant let it straiten out so you hit the accelerator more, and u cant let it spin out of control so u countersteer more. also if you come out a a corner fast and u fishtale, you will need to steer in the opposite direction of the turn to keep the car striaght. how to do it, well just turn the wheels the other way lol

[Azimov]

I thought counter steering was having to steer slightly left or right in order to go straight at high throttle because some vehicles don't put power to the rear wheels equally.
Or another example would be doing the same thing in an airplane that has only one prop. Because of the rotation of the prop in one direction inertial rotation wants to turn the plane in the opposite direction. So, the pilot counter steers to keep the plane straight.
Perhaps counter steering applies to drifting as well because you are effectively doing the same thing.
EDIT: Well, now that I think of it again, you aren't compensating for a mechanical problem. You are intentionally letting the car slide right on the edge of losing control. This would seem to make drifting something different. I counter steer when I hydroplane or hit a patch of ice so the car straightens up. Drifting is pushing to the edge of speed and control. Now I'm just not sure, lol.

[silentracer]

sry for the double post didn't mean too.

[silentracer]

i think we are looking at the same old tv, except i only see black and u see white, the same picture but just from a different angle.

[Namuna]

No Az, you've got it right (I believe so anyway).

The term "Counter" in "Counter Steering", as I understand it, is as the meaning of "to counteract, to rememdy, to fix or regain control" Like if you're taking antibiotics to "counter" an infection.

So when we're talking about "Counter Steering" it is the act of turning the steering wheels in whatever direction is appropriate to "counter" (or fix or to regain control of) the improper steering that is going on.

For hydroplaning or icy road conditions where your back end slips out of control and your vehicle starts forcibly turning out of control...You'd utilize counter steering by turning the steering wheels in the SAME direction as where your tail end is going. This should counter the problem and bring you back into a straight line and in control again.

For "Drifting", you're still doing the same thing! Except this time you're PURPOSEFULLY forcing your back end to slip out and you're basically playing a balancing game of slipping and counter steering until such time as you decide to go back into a straight line again.

[Azimov]

So, to summize, "drifting" is a practiced use of counter steer to move through turns at speeds riding on the exact limit of the vehicle's and the driver's capabitity to maintain control.
When you look at it like this, NASCAR is just a few hundred laps of counter steer.
But, this still doesn't include the counter steer needed to say, keep an Epoch straight on acceleration because of the uneven drive shafts and off center dif. that cause a drift to one side that requires counter steer to correct.
There still seems to be two types of counter steer. One to compensate for loss of rear wheel traction whether accidental or intentional. And one to compensate for mechanical discrepancies.

[silentracer]

There still seems to be two types of counter steer. One to compensate for loss of rear wheel traction whether accidental or intentional. And one to compensate for mechanical discrepancies.

i agree with this.