hey dabigpig, i love great audio systems, but if you would notice i was talking about people who dont know their stuff and you hear/feel only bass(feeling is a good thing tho

), you also need to have high range and and a little mid-range imo. i have a vingate kenwood amp around 40 watts teamed up with some quadraflex three ways with 6 inch subs, and i can rattle windows across the house through two walls. I have a long house i think its about 150-200 ft from the speakers and the old windows. now that i am done bragging... and i am not happy with sony, i have one of thier laptops and the clips that hold the screen down when closed broke for no apperent reason
sorry for going off topic, and maybe my first post was a little biased