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megamighty 10-05-2006 12:08 PM

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Is there a switch I could use that will change quad pack in series to two dual packs in parallel? Radioshack? That way I could use the ZZMT controller charger because it's charging two dual packs at the same time. I wouldn't need to add cells to my remote, I wouldn't think.

Also, would I be able to charge dual packs in series with only four batteries in the ZZ remote? I mean four 1.5 volt batteries can charge four 1.2 volt batteries without a problem, right? Also, isn't it dangerous for the batteries to be recharged using direct current? Isn't direct current the setup that comes with the ZZMTs?

Thanks in advance

Jazz32 10-05-2006 02:18 PM

I built one of the ZZMT's that you're talking about. There are actually videos of it in the video section here.

There is a switch that can wire the batteries between series and parallel. You will need a DPDT (double pole double throw) switch to accomplish it.

The switches at RS are physically bigger than I like, but they do have them available. I cut out a section of the box of the truck to mount the switch. I charge it 3 times with the batteries in parallel.

The problem with the 4 1.5 V batteries charging 4 1.2V batteries is that alkaline do not always run at a full 1.5V. Likewise, fully charged nimh cells charge to about 1.3-1.4V. That charging process would be really slow and wouldn't guarrantee a full charge.

megamighty 10-05-2006 09:50 PM

So, I should use five 1.5 volt AAAs to charge four 1/3 AAAs. It's safe to directly connect the two batteries together without a resistor? Why wouldn't it cook the four 1/3 AAAs?

megamighty 10-06-2006 10:39 AM

Hi, I just added a fifth battery to my controller and connected the batteries directly to the charger base (did I need to do that?). I let it charge for about 40 secs and run it, but the discharge life only lasts for 30 secs before the truck gets slow. Do I need to charge it longer? If so, how long? Thanks.

Jazz32 10-06-2006 01:59 PM

The batteries in the ZZMT are meant to be directly charged. The resistance in the batteries is what causes the current to flow and charge them.

Originally, remember that 4 cells were being used to charge 2. Charging 4 cells with 5 is going to significantly reduce the time it takes to charge the batteries.

To have equal time, you would need to use 8 cells to charge 4, though I wouldn't recomend it. Personally, I would use the switch idea and triple charge the 4 cells when they are in 2S2P configuration or charge with atleast 6 cells for probably around 75+ seconds.

megamighty 10-07-2006 01:19 PM

Thanks, I attached four more cells to my controller and manually timed the charge. It took about 20 secs to charge the truck. I think I could have left it on there a bit longe, but I was afraid too much current was going in. I ended up dropped the number of cells in the charger to six like you said and that seems to work well. I think I'm going to stick with the six cell setup and not go witht the DPDT switch. It charges pretty fast, and I don't have to multi-charge it.

Also, I think I fried my reverse component of the truck. It just creeps backwards now when its fully charged. Is there a way to fix this? Do you think I could just replace a resistor or something.

Thanks


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