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batesjm 01-30-2003 02:37 AM

Just How Fast Is It?
 
Alright, we all know that bits are kinda peppy out of the box (some more than others) to the tune of 1.9 mph (with a 2.2).
But here is my question Just haw gfast does your bit go? My clone with a 3.0 and 2 cells cruises along at 4.1 mph (thats with the stock gearing, taller ones on order from tiny). I want to know what you have and how fast it really is. No BS please, this will be the best way I think for newbies to decide which mods to do first. With all of the different combos people are running this should be interesting. Oh, I almost forgot, the easiest way to measure your car's top speed is on a treadmill. Just remember a bit is approx. 1/70 scale so 11 mph is MACH 1, lets break the bit sound barrier.

Let the madness begin!!!!

HA HA HA HA HA *cough* *hack* HA HA " where the hell are my cigars" *Hack* *Hack*

batesjm 01-30-2003 02:41 AM

just for refrence

Mph Bit Mph
1 70
2 140
3 210
4 280
5 350
6 420
7 490
8 560
9 630
10 700
11 770 Bit Mach 1

That should help a little.
Thanks for the correction, Its 4 am and Im just a little slow.

payaso 01-30-2003 02:52 AM

Shouldn't it be 11mph=770?


silla

batesjm 01-30-2003 02:58 AM

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Ok here is my 287 scale mph bit.

ib311 01-30-2003 08:08 AM

how else can you check your speed? is there a way you can count tire rotations or something? could i measure distance vs. something to get my top speed?

looks like a clean job on your dual cell mod.
zoom zoom

if i didn't hate micky d's so much, i would say...nice car.

rmyc 01-30-2003 09:34 AM

i'm getting about 3.2 with my MS and a 2.6.
i'm using my treadmill right now(that's all i have to check speed)

hogjowlz 01-30-2003 09:57 AM

hmm ill have to measure but im guessing about 6 or 7mph with dual batteries suspension springs and a modified rear axle holder.
ill do the math and get back with you guys in a while.



**note fast doesnt mean everything cuz this thing is hard to control**

kkoenning 01-30-2003 11:31 AM

If you have a way to accurately time the car over a measured distance, maybe these numbers will help (if I did the math correctly):

8.8 feet/sec=6.0 MPH
4.4 feet/sec=3.0 MPH
2.2 feet/sec=1.5 MPH
1.47 feet/sec=1.0 MPH

timis2 01-30-2003 01:14 PM

nice pic i am getting a tri mod car cant wait

hogjowlz 01-30-2003 01:20 PM

i cant imagine a tripple battery car. my dual flips so easy.

timis2 01-30-2003 01:22 PM

it will be my dragster

hogjowlz 01-30-2003 01:29 PM

you still need to steer some in a drag race. see my reduced turn radius thread. i havnt had a chance to fully test this yet.

zipsnbits 01-30-2003 01:42 PM

so like how exactly do you test it on a treadmil??? i have one but i dunno how to do it....would be pretty cool to know how fast my bit is actually goin!:D

hogjowlz 01-30-2003 01:59 PM

i can measure wheel rpms but that doesnt always translate into actual speed. also if you test a car from stop to finish that wont tell you what the top speed actually is. i think later im gona measure out 5foot on the floor and start the car about 5foot in front of the 1st marker and time from when it hits the first marker until it hits the second one and calculate that speed.

rmyc 01-30-2003 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zipsnbits
so like how exactly do you test it on a treadmil??? i have one but i dunno how to do it....would be pretty cool to know how fast my bit is actually goin!:D
1-ya need 2 people
2- your car shold be able to go straight

get some one to control the tredmill's speed control, and your self to control the the car.
1- get the tredmill running at a slow speed (let say ~1mph).
2- place the car on the middle of the belt and hold down on forward.
3- keep on adjust'n the tredmill's speed untill the car stay in one place on the tredmill
4- read the speed on the tredmill


vola!! i guess that's all ( i hope yall understood??

eman1 01-30-2003 04:05 PM

I dont know how accurate the treadmill idea would be.
just mark off a 5 foot space, like with 2 pieces of tape. Time the car through the tape, and then do some calculations

t-squared 01-30-2003 04:15 PM

yeah.....but you would need a place to get up to speed, cause the low gear ratios need time to acclerate, cause if you don't, it would be inaccurate..........

eman1 01-30-2003 04:17 PM

yea, you would have the car going at full speed when you go through the timed area. thats what i meant. if it wont get up to speed before it goes out of range, follow it around and have a friend time it through the timed area.

hogjowlz 01-30-2003 04:55 PM

one of these days my friend is gona build an optical timer. thatll be about as accurate as you can get.

strider_mt2k 01-30-2003 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by batesjm
Ok here is my 287 scale mph bit.
Nice car!

I'd drop that whole "corporate shill" thing though.

RC_EVERYTHING 01-30-2003 06:19 PM

This should save everyone some math and time.http://www.rcnitro.com/rz/cars/calculator.asp you still have to figure it to scale.

fuzzy2cell 01-30-2003 07:28 PM

i just got an rx-7 (blue), and i decided instead of a dual rechargable mod, i went for a single Radioshack 6v lithium battery mod. IT SMOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Real time in a couple minutes

fuzzy2cell 01-30-2003 07:32 PM

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IT HIT 420 MPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(scale)

fuzzy2cell 01-30-2003 07:33 PM

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and another

batesjm 01-30-2003 07:44 PM

I thought the McDonalds logo looked good, Any how, I just got a 4 AA holder from Radio Shack to make the 4 cell charger, i will solder it up tonight and peak my car to see if it helps.

dieselboy 01-30-2003 07:52 PM

i need a decent paced jog to keep up with mine. No idea how fast it is though. My parents must wonder about me jogging around my kitchen following my car......lol

fuzzy2cell 01-30-2003 07:52 PM

any comments on my car would be much desired!!!!!!

mini rc man 01-30-2003 07:53 PM

Re: Just How Fast Is It?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by batesjm
Just remember a bit is approx. 1/70 scale so 11 mph is MACH 1, lets break the bit sound barrier.


LOLOL THAT CRACKS ME UP MACH 1 no im not making it like your wrong that i may sound scarchastic

batesjm 01-30-2003 08:01 PM

First off, Fuzzy nice car, may i suggest that you tighten up the wires going up to the battery, but other than that, nice ride!

Second, I started this thread at around 4 in the morning so my brain was farting alot.

Third, I guess the Mc Donalds logo will go the way of the do-do.
Thats all


For now

dieselboy 01-30-2003 08:04 PM

just from a math perspective. The longer the distance you time the more accurate the calculated speed. Five feet isn't that great of an idea IF you have more space avaliable. If not, whatever works!

batesjm 01-30-2003 08:06 PM

Some cars only have a range of 5ft, do the best you can.

eman1 01-30-2003 08:37 PM

just follow the car til it hits top speed.

and use this page
http://www.rcnitro.com/rz/cars/calculator.asp
scroll down until you see where you can enter a time and distance
it will give you your speed.

batesjm 01-31-2003 12:11 AM

Well I'm up to 308 mph, without the McDonalds stickers.
Now to stop the spinning....

batesjm 01-31-2003 12:44 AM

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With out corperate sponsorship:

fuzzy2cell 01-31-2003 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by batesjm
Fuzzy nice car
thanks to batesjm for that one

fuzzy2cell 01-31-2003 03:59 PM

just put the blue speed demon RX-7 back on the treadmill....

455 scale MPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my subbie with a dual cell hit 245 scale mph,
and the bone stock bB hit 189.. That's faster than the mcdonald's car earlier topped out on. How could a stock car go faster than a custom car?:confused: :confused:
b1spd b49m bbrx7r stock motor, stock gears, 6v battery!!!!

fuzzy2cell 01-31-2003 04:02 PM

:eek: sorry about the screwup..... I was wrong... the mcd's car topped on 287, while the stock hit 189

fuzzy2cell 01-31-2003 04:32 PM

i put zipzap bg395 gear & axle combo on the microsizer subbie, and i hit 280 scale mph!

strider_mt2k 01-31-2003 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzzy2cell
and another
And that capacitor runs it for how long?
All by itself?

eman1 01-31-2003 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uber202
Okay, I thought I would throw in my 2 cents here. You cannot measure the speed of a car by putting it at a starting line and "time" it 5 feet away. If you put the "5 feet" where it would be at top speed, yes it would work. Here is the reason why... if the car is accelerating or decelerating, it would screw up the measurement. For example, lets look at the real world. If I have a mile taped off and I put my Honda Civic at the beginning of the mile and accelerated to 60 MPH and finished the mile at 60 MILES PER HOUR, that means it would take one minuet to finish one mile correct? (60 MPH = 60 miles in 60 mins) But it would take longer to complete the first mile because I wasn’t STARTING at 60 MPH, but at 0 MPH. Does this make sense? For me to complete the mile in 1 minute I would have to accelerate to say 70 MPH to make up for the lost “acceleration time” Now, if instead I put my car a half a mile behind the line and accelrate to 60 MPH and stayed there through the “mile markers” then it would take 1 min. The timing method is only good for constant speed. Also, you cannot hand time this, it wouldn’t work because you would have to factor in reaction time and to scale a split second could make a HUGE difference. We need an optical timer of some sort.
yea, thats exactly what everyone said. You would be going at full speed through the timing gates.


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