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shanly 01-23-2003 03:39 PM

intercooler?cold air intake?
 
i have heard of bits with an intercooler, what is this an where do i find info on how to do it? i also heard of a cold air intake on a bit, where do i get info on how to do that??

Silent_NightR34 01-23-2003 03:41 PM

for the intercooler its just some stapels stuck up in the front grill..i donno anything about the air intake but i have heard of people talking about they have a real working 1

shanly 01-23-2003 03:45 PM

so there is no purpose to an intercooler besides looks huh?, well, ok, i am still REALLY interested to find out what a working cold air intake is all about.

PWalk 01-23-2003 03:50 PM

What would be the point to having a cold air intake on a Bit in the first place?
It would serve no purpose?

I'm sorry I just don't see the point I guess, unless someone can make one for cosmetic reasons.

hogjowlz 01-23-2003 04:26 PM

well magnets work better under cooler temperatures. so i guess if you forced cool air into the steering compartment your magnets will work better.



























the above was intended as a joke

BenCloned 01-23-2003 05:41 PM

Kinda like spoilers that add HP. :D

hogjowlz 01-23-2003 05:42 PM

i think logo stickers and racing stripes ad more hp than spoilers.

BenCloned 01-23-2003 05:55 PM

Spoilers, man. Wheels and spoilers. That's where all the extra HP comes from. And dual wiper blades.
lol

Superimport2nr 01-23-2003 06:06 PM

umm, do any of you guys know how a car works:p
im sure the guys that are talking about thier real working ones are just idiot ricers....


intake in a car, is just where the air comes into the car(and the cone/box thing is a filter) a real car requires a mixture of air, and fuel for combust, therefore making the car move

now tell me, is there any kind of combustion in a ELECTRIC r/c car???:rolleyes:

t-squared 01-23-2003 06:16 PM

yes.........when you put a firecracker in it!

BenCloned 01-23-2003 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superimport2nr
im sure the guys that are talking about thier real working ones are just idiot ricers....

Nope, just very sarcastic.

Pojo 01-23-2003 06:22 PM

SuperImport: LOL, you obviously haven't seen ricer sites, where they are all very sarcastic. :rolleyes:

strider_mt2k 01-23-2003 06:22 PM

Speed holes
 
Don't forget the speed holes...

They make the car go faster.

shanly 01-23-2003 06:26 PM

ok, this thread has gone way off topic, moderator, jus lock this thread please, its now a subject of rice racers and such

Pojo 01-23-2003 06:27 PM

Microsizer scale-car parts do not impress me. I can understand cosmetic changes, like the intercooler, exhaust pipes and stuff, but a cold air intake?! I just don't get it!

t-squared 01-23-2003 06:28 PM

so would gluing a pen tip to my bit make it go faster? the bigger it is the faster right, since it'll act as a rocket thingy.........riiiiiiight?????

Pojo 01-23-2003 06:32 PM

nah....but alot of people mention bottle rockets on bits....DON'T DO IT!!! I tried it on a "shell" (car with nothin in it)...didn't move at all, and just blew up.

mcharles13 01-23-2003 06:55 PM

Back to the original question.

Just take some staples, cut them to the right size and stuff them in the grill.

This is how mine looked before i got an R-spec motor. I cant keep it in now....keep running into stuff.
http://home.earthlink.net/~mcharles1...ow_close_1.jpg

MTL 01-23-2003 07:33 PM

kool picture

shocon2k 01-23-2003 10:24 PM

Just to clarify...wheels are not rice.

jei$ 01-23-2003 11:37 PM

yeah yeah really.

i saw this dude with this fat kit, big ħ§ spoiler
the works.
he pops the hood on his civic




















































































































































stock.....
same here the above was intended as a joke

dabigpig 01-23-2003 11:40 PM

how many people are going to see that /\ ^ /\ and wait for a picture to load lol :D

dieselboy 01-23-2003 11:48 PM

jei$, whast wrong with looks and no power to back it up. Speed gets you tickets anyways. If your car looks good it gets attention, if its some ass car with a big block in it, it will get you attention........from the cops. I would way rather have the first of the two.

dabigpig 01-24-2003 12:53 AM

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dabigpig 01-24-2003 01:04 AM

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jei$, whast wrong with looks and no power to back it up. Speed gets you tickets anyways. If your car looks good it gets attention, if its some ass car with a big block in it, it will get you attention........from the cops. I would way rather have the first of the two.
LOL

krillin52 01-24-2003 03:24 AM

Quote:

jei$, whast wrong with looks and no power to back it up
everything...

Quote:

If your car looks good it gets attention, if its some ass car with a big block in it, it will get you attention........from the cops
ever try driving around in a super riced out car? you'll have cops all over your ass like mike tyson at a beauty pagent...

id rather have the ****tiest looking car with the best performance ever, rather than any wannabe... that just makes you look like a poser... people might as well shave their heads, tatoo 3 x's on their neck, buy an rx7 with the biggest stero system in the back, and race it with ja rule.... and when you win you can scream "welcome to the zander zone!!!"

Silentbob343 01-24-2003 04:06 AM

LOL at all the anti rice comments

No nothing is wrong with wheels untill they get so big they cause the car to ride so high up it looks like it's about to go off road.

Or when you get wheels that are to big and heavy they actually slow your car down. Even if you get bigger wheels that are lighter than smaller stock wheels they can still slow you down due to the increase in rotational mass.

"Actually, there is a relationship between rotating and static weight. For the purposes of a car,

a=T(2/md+d/2I)

a = acceleration
T = torque driving the wheel
m = mass the wheel must "tow" from the center of rotation (COR)
d = diameter of tire
I = polar moment of inertia of wheel/tire combination
This was derived from first principles. The first term comes from F=ma where F = T/(d/2) --> d/2 is the moment arm at which the force from the ground on the tire acts. The 2nd term comes from a = alpha*(d/2) where alpha is angular acceleration. T=alpha*I.

(I) is not easy to calculate for complicated shapes like wheels... it is usually measured. The general form is (I) = sum (mi*di^2). (mi) is the "lump" of mass at a distance (di) from the COR. Break up your wheel into a zillion parts, measure the distance from the COR to each part, sum them all up using the above equation, and you get (I) :-). As an example, let's take a simple shape: for a uniformly distributed disk, (I) = md^2/8. Plugging into the above equation for (a), we get:

a=T(2/md+4/m_wd) where m_w is the weight of the wheel. Thus, we can see that for a uniformly distributed disk (like a hockey puck), the importance of rotational weight is 2x that of static weight (if the weight was static, it would contribute to the first term with the "2" factor, if it was rotational, it would contribute to the 2nd term with the "4" factor). However, a typical wheel/tire combination has most of it's weight at the outer edges, which increases (I). Thus, rotational weight is more than 2x the equivalent static weight.... probably near 3x or more (for really heavy tires with light wheels).

Wheels with a larger moment of inertia (I) require more torque to _accelerate_ at the same rate as a wheel with a smaller I. For a given horsepower output, both wheels will eventually reach the same terminal velocity, but the wheel with the larger I will take longer to reach it. It is possible for a heavier wheel to accelerate at a faster rate than a lighter wheel for a given torque. As an example, let's say we have 2 identical 15" wheels. Now let's add 1 lb to wheel #1 at the very edge of the wheel, and 2 lbs to wheel #2 near the center of the wheel. Even though wheel #2 is heavier, it has a smaller polar moment of inertia (I) and thus will accelerate at a faster rate for a given torque than wheel #1.

You can, of course, calculate the acceleration, then work your way backwards and simply define an "effective mass" as the proportionality constant between F and a. In this case you'd arrive at

M_effective = (M + 4I/d^2)
However, such a definition is neither physical, nor possibly even useful. (I) is not easy to calculate for complicated shapes like wheels so that, eventually, you'll have to take a guess at (I), like..3x.

These are not things worth memorizing. However, you do need to know that and object with its mass far from the center has a greater moment of inertia than another object (of the same mass) with its mass near the center."

BenCloned 01-24-2003 09:39 AM

So much for sarcasm.

Silentbob343 01-24-2003 12:35 PM

lol


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