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pakiplaya 12-11-2002 03:53 PM

are 27mhz cars good range?
 
wanna skyline. good range at all? or should i get a 45mhz and get a skyline body>>??

cisco 12-11-2002 04:09 PM

I don't think there is much difference that you will notice.

pakiplaya 12-11-2002 04:17 PM

mm...
anyother opinions?
ranges be writin pleasz?

mustang_steve 12-11-2002 04:34 PM

The range depends on where its being used. kitchens tend to be very bad for bits (prolly has to be the two refrigertors here).


to increase range you can route the antenna on the car from the back of the board instead of the front (untie that knot as well). Even better is putting a 24gauge solid core antenna (cat5).

Now for the more exotic, remove the cripple cap on the car's PCB (be sure that's it before you clip it, don't wanna damage something you need), and remove the cripple cap i n the controller. just doing the controller and hte car cripple caps, i was getting 40ft+ in my apt (RF hell, cordless phones...yeah right...).

Also note that doing these mods can bug ya at races. I personally refuse to take un-capped controllers to events due to the sheer annoyance they can cause to others. Imagine trying to test a car, and sending some other guys car 50ft away right off the table :( That's not cool at all. The car mod is a tamer mod but gives you an edge on the track since you have less chance of hitting a dead spot.

anyways 20ft is about ideal, good enough to be a slacker and run it from a chair, and not so far that the kid 50ft from you at the races will be able to shoot your off the table (well, unless he did hte controller mod...)

g

pakiplaya 12-15-2002 08:57 PM

i cant find the cap in the controller as showin in ausmicro.com,
does mine have it in the conrtolelr for sure> 27mhz skyline?

bill 12-15-2002 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pakiplaya
i cant find the cap in the controller as showin in ausmicro.com,
does mine have it in the conrtolelr for sure> 27mhz skyline?

How many times you going to ask this??

http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread....&threadid=5013

http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread....&threadid=4993

pakiplaya 12-15-2002 09:25 PM

maybe its because i want to take it out

MTL 12-15-2002 10:26 PM

if you dont see it, then you dont have one
SO STOP ASKING 100TIMES

aero 12-15-2002 10:30 PM

I said the same thing.................I still bet he doesnt even have a bit!!!

MTL 12-15-2002 10:31 PM

well i dunno, we all at least know he has a white skyline..
but this is lame....
ive seen noobs, but maan this is worse case scenario

aero 12-15-2002 10:33 PM

Re: are 27mhz cars good range?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pakiplaya
wanna skyline. good range at all? or should i get a 45mhz and get a skyline body>>??
this doesnt sound like he has one............

mustang_steve 12-16-2002 12:17 AM

Guys, don't take this wrong, I have no intent to flame, this is my attempt at a constructive criticism.


Honestly I feel he just needs to pay up and get a real bit (if he does not have one already), and carefully read and research. All hobbies require knowledge of the equipment at hand. After that he needs to set his goals on how far he wants to take this hobby. Does he want to just have a nice fun car he can swap things into and not fret too hard if it breaks, or go all out and spend weekends on weekends making one car as perfect as possible (weight shaving, stereing upgrades, etc).


Paki, if your reading this, here's a few links for ya to get up to speed on bits and r/c in general.

www.questformadness.com <- for mod information
www.tinyrc.com <- self explanitory
http://www.howstuffworks.com/rc-toy.htm <- how r/c cars work
www.driftkingshop.com <- place for aftermarket parts

Also don't think anyhtings out of range of Yahoo's little spider arms...it's amazing what things you can find, and wished you never found on yahoo.

I know, I'ts hard to be patient with life, but a hobby is your chance to just take your time and revel in what efforts you have done, instead of just rushing to the next step.

Trust me, don't sweat the details. If you cant find a crip cap, you may have the wrong type of car or it may not have a crip cap. If your gears whine, it may be normal...definition of noisy varies from person to person.....what is fast varies too....

Just learn, and apply what you can....what you don't have a hold on yet will come in time.

VERTiG0 12-16-2002 06:35 AM

Re: are 27mhz cars good range?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pakiplaya
wanna skyline. good range at all? or should i get a 45mhz and get a skyline body>>??
Oh sweet holy hell, please just go away.

pakiplaya 12-16-2002 04:23 PM

thanc mustang, and yes i do have the skyline to all u smart asses

MiniBlueWRX 12-16-2002 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mustang_steve
The range depends on where its being used. kitchens tend to be very bad for bits (prolly has to be the two refrigertors here).


to increase range you can route the antenna on the car from the back of the board instead of the front (untie that knot as well). Even better is putting a 24gauge solid core antenna (cat5).

Now for the more exotic, remove the cripple cap on the car's PCB (be sure that's it before you clip it, don't wanna damage something you need), and remove the cripple cap i n the controller. just doing the controller and hte car cripple caps, i was getting 40ft+ in my apt (RF hell, cordless phones...yeah right...).

Also note that doing these mods can bug ya at races. I personally refuse to take un-capped controllers to events due to the sheer annoyance they can cause to others. Imagine trying to test a car, and sending some other guys car 50ft away right off the table :( That's not cool at all. The car mod is a tamer mod but gives you an edge on the track since you have less chance of hitting a dead spot.

anyways 20ft is about ideal, good enough to be a slacker and run it from a chair, and not so far that the kid 50ft from you at the races will be able to shoot your off the table (well, unless he did hte controller mod...)

g

will this work on my 27mhz WRX? and does it damage the car at all? just wanna know for sure before i try this.....

aero 12-16-2002 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pakiplaya
thanc mustang, and yes i do have the skyline to all u smart asses
judging by the way you started off your question, it still sounds like you don't have one. Does it have good range or should I get a 45 mhz blah blah blah.............

mustang_steve 12-16-2002 08:20 PM

To MiniblueWRX
 
Which mod, the antenna or the cap?

antenna mod is pretty easy, just get some solid core 24awg wire (most bulk cat5 wireing is this, the retail stuff is usually stranded cat5, this is just my observation) and desolder the original wire and solder that one in. Its a 5-minute mod, no joke.
It gives you nice range plus you cna position the antenna wherever you want, allowing you to use it to fine tune weight distribution.

The car cap mod is very risky since if you cut hte wrong one, you make your car a nice little paperweight. Just be sure and if you have the right tools (smd soldering tip) you can try to remove it cleanly so you can put it back later. More than likely though you wont, so just get a set of fine wire cutters and chop it of at the solder points, being careful not to dmamge and pcb traces or any other components nearby.
This mod gives you some very nice range.

The controller cap mod, I do not recommend for racing use due to the extended range, it can mess with other folks cars in bad ways...imagine you car flying off the table onto a hard floor...breaking al your bodywork....and your 35ft from the nearest guy......and was that far cause bit controllers dont reach that far....it just sucks, and i decided to not play that game.

I do have a modded 57mhz controller, but i only did that since i had to see it for myself, but I havent taken it out of the house since.

If you ahve a multi-band, you can put the antenna from your original controllers into the multi and get more range, I do think that mod is fine for racing since all its doing is putting htat controller at about the same range as the original controllers.

Again remeber that range is dependant on the stuff around it, everyhting electronic emits some interference, and other factors can contribute to dead spots, so if you get bad range in the kitchen, try the bathroom for 5 mins to see if its any better...if it si it's environmental interference most likely. Or try in the living room, parents and significant other allowing, of course :)

MiniBlueWRX 12-17-2002 02:24 PM

ok.....thanks for the tip......i think i'll give it a try and hopefully i don't damage it or mess it up during the process....

Draconious 12-18-2002 01:28 AM

I recently bought 5 BitcharG's Real ones ;) not microsizers either... so far I have only opened 3 of them, the first was a White Skyline (27mhz), and it went about 6 foot... and would stop if it was facing me, would keep going if it was facing away from me... so I unknoted the antenna and unkinked it etc... it now can go about 10 or 11 feet from TX....

the other 2 that I opened cant gomore then a foot and a half from the TX.. i have to like hover the end of the TX antenna over the stupid car to get it to move... I might as well have a cord'ed car.. so each Bit has its own "personality" I guess... the other 2 freqs were 57 and 35mhz.. the 35 totaly sucked, and the 57 would go just far enough away that I could almost not reach it sitting on the floor...

I am now starting to search the forum for the FIX it ideas.. I think the antenna needs resoldering... on my bad ones, apears to be at least one broken strand.

omarjamil 12-27-2002 05:47 PM

this is pakiplaya
 
i went to the home depot, to get the cat5 antenna and get it soldered there if possible. i got the cat5 there, and then out of curiousity, i went to the lumber section(wood) and got 50 feet or more with the stock antenna!!
i then ran to one of the electrical sections, got 4 feet range!
see, its the interferances, not the antenna.
i went home to my 4 feet range ground, and couldnt solder one of the antennas due to not having a gun or iron.
i then cut the stock antenna in half and took insulation off to get to the wire. i then took insulation off the cat5 and twisted the 2 stock and cat5 together. how was my range u ask?
same, exact same 4 feet. and the cat5 antenna sticking out of the car was way taller then the stock cause it was longer. no differents. its the interferences. i know that now.
for people to know, this is pakiplaya. im starting off fresh,


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