For those with booster sets/2 speeders
 

Although this may be my first post to this board, I have learned a considerable amount. I've been reading and searching on this board for almost 2 weeks and almost all of my questions have been answered. But, I just want to confirm something.

I just ordered the Tomy Auto Modellista set. For those who have booster cars, are these actually faster (while boosting of course) then a car with the same gearing/mods and motor size? I've heard it go both ways all over the board but there does not seem to be a positive conclusion.

PS: I've attatched (wow you can't do this at MX6.com !!!) a picture of myself, remember, drool is bad for keyboards. (just kiddin)

yes,

in my experience they are faster than an unboosted counterpart. And when u get auto modellista, you wont be dissapointed.

I can confirm that they are faster.:)

Thanks guys, I was hoping for that answer. Anything not already on this site (like common knowledge stuff) that I need to know?

Eeeh....

Drive Carefully:D

atcually no...u can find out about everything from here. my only advice to you is.......be careful when you open up your car. cause its a pain soldering the little steering wires

Thanks again guys.

Eventually I plan on getting a soldering iron and doing some of these little mods. I've read several posts that say to practice before you try to solder your bit. How exactly can you practice lol?

If I get good i suppose I could solder my friggin mod chip into my real car!

i was under the impression that a 2 speed car runs slow and then at max motor potential when boosted, giving the turbo boost effect. am i wrong? to elaborate, if i have a 2.2 in my car, unboosted it would run at about 1.6 or something and then run at 2.2 when i hit the boost button, so that it seems to have had an extra pick me up when in reality it is not starting at 2.2 and over exerting the rpm capacity of the motor.....i thought a 2.2 is the max a 2.2 would go...........I THINK

you would be correct aero

i could have sworn that i read it somewhere, but if you think about it it makes sense........how could a 2.2 be pushed to say a 2.4 or 2.6??? if you listen when you run the car unboosted it sounds as if somethins is holding it back and it lets up when you boost it to release its full rpm potential............

no
 

it's true it is slower unboosted, but it smokes a 2.2 boosted!

Re: no
 

no doubt, i have an ms w/ a 2.2 and a fairlady z w/ a 2.2 and the z def. wins, but how can a 2.2 be pushed higher than its limits??

i dunno
 

I have no clue

the 2.2 on a booster(boosted) is faster than a 2.2 on a non-booster. From my personal tests results.


http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread....&threadid=3714

aero is right in theory, but it's hard to believe that a 2.2 can be shoved over it's limits...even tho the facts are right there

cool!
 

Hey, always glad to help. Sadly now I'm in this big what can i make from what mode, and its went down to real cars, i causght myself seeing how i could put the rx-7 and skyline bodies together to make a porsche 944....and dont hte porsche clones look more like 928s than 911s?

Sorry to rant, but I guess being too much of a car nut does this to you, now im thinking hte 2000 gtr body could easily be made to resemble an old saab sonnet, but i havent seen one in so long that i cant say for sure.

Now tomy making a porsche 944 body would be really cool,

for all refernce a 944 can run a track with a same year 911 with near identical track times, only diff is the 944 has far less power, but has an almost perfect weight ration (50.8 front/ 49.2 rear), and the 911 has the 42/58 weight ratio and so much rear wheel torque and htat 4k rpm power bump that makes it very hard to corner with. plus hte later model 94s looked really sweet, and are quite affordable nowadays (92 for 8k) :D

Boys, Boys...

I ll say it another time

An uboosted bit goes very, very slow. So if has a 2.2 motor will run even slower than a 1.0 motor

A boosted bit goes much faster than a bit with the same motor. So if it has a 2.2 motor will run faster a 2.6, almost like a 3.0

In the first case, it happens because the pcb leaves less than 1.2V from the battery to pass to the motor.

And in the second case somehow it gives a little more than 1.2V.

Don't ask me how because I don't know how to explain it, Im not an electrician.:(

And you said that a motor cannot pass its limits. Thats not true though.
Take the example of the dual cell mod. With this mod a bit run like crazy, almost twice as fast. Because the motor takes 2.4V instead of 1.2V.:)

so what you are saying is that the speed a motor will run depends on the voltage run to the motor??? makes sense, thank you!!

Thats what ive heard too, that the non boosted cars are actually more limited then a 2 speeder under boost conditions (all things being equal in both cars) Gosh I cant wait till my set comes in.

PS: how do these things run on hard carpet. like carpets at department stores or schools?

hehe,

they work great on hard carpet. Just make sure thaat there is no hair that like sticks up.

soooo
 

soo if i have a boosted 3.5 or 3.8 lets say would it be ultra fast or just be so much power that it wouldnt make a difference at all?

it would be pretty fast, with my 3.0 it seemed to make a pretty big difference, but it didnt seem to flip over...hmmmmm Im still looking into this, perhaps the auto modellista sets and 350z sets have an improve suspension?:D

couldnt there be some kind of resistor so that a 2.2 is really goint 2.0 or 2.1 but when it gets boosted it runs to 2.2. i dont just a thought

it goes way slow than a 2.0 would go unboosted;)

think of the unboosted as having your foot at half throttle, and boost as full throttle. and boost is a fair amount quicker. just get a nice quick motor, and run it with boost off, and use the boost switch as nos if you want, or get a nice torquey motor and treat the switch as an accelrator pedal, lete off on turns, punch in the striaghts.

again, all a matter of preference. no car is superior, just different.

i dont know but maybe the booster has less resistance than an unboosted bit. ...i dunno

Hmm?
 

So, has anyone tried a 3.8 or an r-type motor/rotor/engine with an auto modellista or perhaps another car with boosting capabilities? Respond when you get the chance, Im eager...

-Bob

yeah soo.. if u put in a 3.8 motor.. un boosted.. ur saying its probably going to go like a 2.2 or 2.6 motor.. kinda confused.. :confused: and if u boost it it will go a bit faster than a 3.8.. HAS ANYONE PUT A 3.8 in it...??!?!?!?

Here are my results with a 3.0 motor and booster/non-booster. With boost the car seems to act more like a 3.1-3.2 well, watever it is its slightly faster in a drag race. I think it's probably that when you press boost somehow the motor is getting more volts to it than the regular non-boost. Just a guess. Without boost the car goes a tid faster than a 1.0 motor somewhere between 1.0 and 1.6 motor.

?!
 

But what about 3.8? Anyone?!

-Bob

the 3.8 is really slow w/o boost.


it seems tehh fastere the motor, the bigger difference between boosted/unboosted speeds. either way, nothing is considered fast without boost. .

2.6 is one of my faves for the boosted, as well as the zz nos, mainly due to the difference in boost and no boost is close enough to be usable on a track.

I would make a chart, but i don't have enough resources and time right now to do them all, plus my booster got stepped on the other day, and i have to do another pcb transfer :( (first one was when doing my zz pcb xfer, I accidentally used my reference car's pcb whhich was wrong frequency.....DOH!)

Oy Vey, Come On, Anyone tried the r-spec//3.8 in an auto modellista? Or am I going to be the guinea pig, I have no objections... POWER!!!! HAHAHAHHA!

-Bob :D

I run a bitmod1 3.5 motor in my Fairlady Z booster car. Pretty slow unboosted, maybe like 1.0. Hit the boost, and it is insanely fast! I love it!

Coo, BUT WHAT ABOUT 3.8//R-SPEC?!

-Bob

I don't have an R-spec motor yet. Looks like you be the guinea pig!

i was wondering if anyone tried the dual cell mod with this?

ok ok i have an r-spec motor and a nissan fairlady z and i would say that unboosted it is slow like a 1.5 or something just a guess but it is really fast once u boost. and i mean really really fast

I have both R-spec that I bought and some torque motor that toyeast was selling.

R-spec is pretty damn slow unboosted and boosted is like 3.8.
I noticed a little more torque than my 3.8 but not too much.

This torque motor I have tho is insane compared to all my motors. Unboosted is almost like 2.2 top speed and boosted is just damn fast :).

Motors can be different tho even between the same grade.
My 2.2 in my 350Z was ok but the 2.2 in my auto modelista had a lot more torque and speed. If i reversed then quickly accelerate the front wheels would come off the ground for half a second.

Hmm, What's That "Torque Motor" called at ToyEast?!

-Bob

<------ Watch out! noob with questions...

Can someone explain how the Boost button works. Is it a separate button from the directional controls (up, down, left, right)? Where is it on the controller? Can you simply leave the boost on while u drive? Thanks.