Motul autech z 2007
 

http://www.kyosho.com/common/image.php?id=118728
courtesy of kyosho

this is also one of the racing bodies i'm waiting for, to go with the db9 and coming gt-r.

jpn site says november 28th so we should see it here before the end of the year. maybe too late for x-mas unless you order overseas.

Cool, I wonder what other racing cars we'll be getting.

what we've seen at the jpn hobby show.... i put together a long list of the new bodies shown at the show.

I remember those, I just wonder what's next! :D

i'll have this in stock by tomorrow... will post an update on the blog after it arrives (as usual) :D

i look forward to reading up on it. in particular, how it compares to the db9.

i haven't tested it yet... but it looks SWEEEEET! :D

i received my motul z last night! it looks awsome!

quick impressions;
1. very low to the ground
2. very stable compared to the gt-r r35
3. perception wise, it actually looks like a smaller scale than the gt-r r35. kind of how the mustang mini-z looks huge and the chrysler 300 looks tiny. i'm sure they use the same scaling necessary to fit the available wheelbases just as they do with min-z's thus each body is slightly smaller scale or larger scale than others. these are definately not all precisely 1/43 just as mini-z's are not all precisely 1/27.

i already put the foam block in the rear and i need to order some new wheels to replace them with something more befitting than the same stock wheel. also need to pick up some tires.

leads me to something else, is there a list of the best tire combinations for the various surfaces? such as rcp, kyosho circuit, realtracks, portatracks, etc.

have you tried the SSG-DSP Damper Kit? either Atomic or X-Power... the foam install doesn't compare to the affect the damper has and this Z can have it installed with no body mods. everybody in the shop tried the foam... i've even cut my Mazda 787b body cuz of the difference it makes and that was something i never wanted to do.

best tire combo EVA foam type surfaces will be 40F/10R (Kyosho), 25F/8R (Atomic) or 45F/8R (PN Racing). other surfaces... i'm not sure.

i'm using the foam block until pn releases their damper kit. i prefer pn parts over atomic personally and there are many domestic shops that carry pn vs. atomic due to atomic's difficulty dealing with u.s. shops, which seems to be changing for the better with Sai Tam (whom i've raced mini-z's with before) as the lead u.s. market representative for atomic.

your x-power line of parts are very interesting however the cost to import them exceeds the value or return on investment for me vs. purchasing easy to obtain parts domestically with cheap shipping. it would be different if it were something totally unique or proven to be invaluable. for the time being, i am patient and will wait it out. with the costs for dnano racing being what they are and limited support for it at the moment here, i'm not the type that has to have it first or have the latest and greatest. i need to keep my budget tight as mini-z racing is my primary hobby.

back to the motul z, what if anything have you had to do to yours? is it one of those racers right out of the box like the mazda or does it need some tweaking?

would size 20 rear wheels fit? i prefer to keep wheel gaps tight with the body. i don't think there is enough room for 20 wheel up front.

Hi Arch2b,

I just unpacked my Motul Z 2007 and installed bearings for now. Obviously, i have the pick of all of the upgrades from my shop, but wanted to know what these cars are like box stock on RCP.

The shop is open this Saturday, so can provide feedback to all re: RCP and box stock (except bearings) once the day is done. Hopefully I'll have time to try out some additional parts.

This is the order I was thinking of doing to see how much of a performance gain/driveability gain they'd yield:

1) different gearing? (could be last too)
2) tires
3) aluminum bits (front susp plate set, rear hubs, rims)
4) adj ball diff
5) different springs
6) xspeed motor
7) gyro
8) different gearing?

can't argue with trying to save money.... if ya need it, we're here and you can get light weight orders shipped to the states from here for about 9-20USD if ya change your mind.

i've changed my wheels to 20's which of course increases wheel travel but reduces stability and increases possibility of roll. as long as you don't have lights installed, its a comfortable fit.

outside of that, its great out of the box with your normal option parts (gyro, pn racing rear suspension plate, hard springs, aluminum parts, alum. wheels (if you want extra weight), ball diff w/34T spur gear/stock pinion (crazy acceleration), no need for x-speed on smaller circuits but its fun if you've got the space. go with tires as outlined earlier on RCP and you're good. none in my collection runs quieter and smoother than the Z. :D

NanoTrax do you add anything to the SSG-DSP Damper friction disks? like shock oil, diff. grease. as we do on Mini-Z's, if so what exactly do you use?
if I may ask? :D also is there a choice of springs for the damper, if so what do you use on your Mazda 787b?

Thank You.

D

thanks for the info :)

my priority list based, not based on performance;
1. tires
2. wheels
3. bearings

that is about all i was going to do for the time being. i have some h plates but i want to make sure i know what stock feels like first. i like the feel of added weight with aluminum wheels. just makes it feel more planted. bearings are a no brainer but i'm looking for more cost effective product.

later i will look into;
4. rear diff
5. steering plates
6. hubs
7. waiting for pn disc damper

i drove my z around my mini-96 and it runs great. i did not flip once pushing it hard all the way. all the push of the stock front tires may be a big part of that. i'm hoping the 20 wheels will provide a fraction more ground clearance. that front lip catches everything.

the XP-SSG comes with Medium (Black) and Silver (Soft) springs. i use the medium all around at the moment (Front Springs, Rear Suspension Plate & Damper Spring). i use 10k/wt diff oil and it slows movement as it should without suspending action. if it doesn't look 'wet', there probably isn't enough oil on it ;)

yeah, i had that problem on the rear air ducts as well... that's the reason for the change. definitely go with the ball diff as quickly as possible arch. there's no way to explain the volumes of difference it will make for this car.

have you tried sanding the edges up to allow them to slide vs. grasping? i was thinking of doing this. i do it to my mini-z's and it helps.

i can't help but stare at this thing. it's soo tiny but so detailed and cool looking.

checked and my skylines have 20 wheels so i borrowed a pair to try out and i found the front wheel to hit the back of the light bucket. these are alumatech wheels with stock tires. are pn tires any thinner or less rounded i guess i should say as the kyosho tires are much like the old mini-z tires that are slightly rounded, before they switched to 'flat' tires that are common today.

the first picture shows the aluminum wheel on the right hitting the light bucket. the second picture shows the stock wheel on the left does not.

here are some comparison pictures of 19 and 20 wheels on my motul z.

NanoTrax thank you for your post, it will help. I ordered the X-Power damper
from you :D for my new Mazda 787b my first Dnano :p. would you tell me about you going to
the Medium setup ? compared to your Hard setup ? also what brand of 10k/wt
diff oil do you use, they are not all the same :eek: :D

Thank You for your time and help :)

and arch2b I to would love a PN Damper for the Dnano and a PN Motor Pod lol.

D

hey Mini-D.... hit me up by e-mail (qon@nanotrax.net) so we don't take away from Arch's thread.

anyone want to take a guess at how long it will be before pn makes a diff? i'm just guessing but it's only logical pn will offer just about whatever atomic does given their competitive nature. this is why i believe they would make a disc damper.

Hi,

Talked to Philip and he said that there are no plans other than a rear damper kit. I'll add in "for now" myself as with any manufacturer, everything is driven by demand. With the way things are going at my track, dNaNo is definately going well. Who knows what the future holds?

IMO, forget diff, I'd like to see more alloy upgrades. Alloy tools would be nice too, i.e. pinion gear tool, etc...

i admit to having an odd fondness for pn orange aluminum parts :)

anyone else have aluminum wheels for their motul z? i just ordered the double 6 spokes today for mine.

yep... i think i've posted a pic here before with my 20' Double 6s but here it is again :D

Hey how about PN Racing Dnano LCG Motor Mount (Orange) :eek: :D :cool:

Hey Sinister_Y,
try this for a very nice Tool Set :cool: :D :cool:

https://shop.nanotrax.net/products-p...ool-set-dnano/

arch2b I have PN Racing dNaNo Double 6 Aluminum Wheel :p BUT there not
on the Z :o how about a Mazda 787b ;)

Thanks Mini-D, but those don't have the alloy bits I was thinking. More like pinion tool, etc...

BTW, I have all that stuff already and carry it in my shop. Love it. Expensive, but nice.

yes, i have the pn wheels for mini-z's as well :) mine will end up looking much like Qon's only without the trick lights :p i do have alumatech wheels in 20 size for my skylines which i should put on for pictures at least.


off topic-
i will purchase the kyosho screwdriver simply because my fingers are too big for the stock tool but the rest is highway robbery. i refuse to pay that much for tools. it's only a matter of time before the correct sizes are identified in other lines that are far more affordable. pn and others also offer tools and may release ones for dnano. just need to ask :) (many people to ask)

i was thinking the same thing re: pn motor mount. i'd sign up for that. atomic makes very good motor mounts as well however i never liked blue bits.

i think the tools are expensive as well but... i do have to say there's a definite difference in the quality of both the screwdriver and the tweezer. anyone who knows anything about tools knows truly GOOD tools are not cheap and i think that's what they had in mind but yes, it would be cool if they were cheaper. another thing i don't stock much cuz of the price :(

continued off topic
 

i understand and appreciate the value of quality tools as well but in all honesty, they don't cost that much. pn for example offers high quality tools for mini-z and larger scales that are more affordable. atomic makes a trick wheel nut driver with a screwdriver/hex head reversible bit that i use every single day i race. it's both affordable and highly functional. a quality tool doesn't need to cost a fortune. you should look into carrying that atomic mini-z tool Qon, it's worth it.

fyi, at some point i will simply split these tool posts out to a tool topic post. i don't want to loose continuity right now with the current conversations.

i don't need the ferrari of screwdrivers when a mercedes will do just fine is my point. i've done very well for MANY years with the crazy cheap xmods tool set infact. that was the best for value tool set i've ever seen. not the highest quality obviously but it worked well, came with a full compliment of tools and was dirt cheap. when you torqued a shaft in the plastic handle you could just as easily replace it.

Do we already know what size (in mm i guess) the K screw driver is ?? I'm sure wiha will have it in that size for about 5 bucks!

To stay on topic how would you guys compare the Motul Z's on track performance to the out of the box king of the hill Mazda 787??

i think the answer to that is really driver preference. prefer the mazda but its just fun to drive with the Z. it has a problem with under/oversteer that we haven't been able to quite resolve with other settings so... the mazda is still king @ the moment imo

i'm sure some of the kyosho documentation contains tool sizes, or various shop listings.

Got it thanks!...just that Z looks extra good looking overall, any chance of posting video of a running Motul Z on your track, there's none at the moment I could find.

I haven't come across it but haven't done a macho search either. I've noticed a lot of manufacturers try not to publish that info so people will not look for them in other brands. I wonder if there's any printed documentation with the tool mentioning tip size?

Hey Q'on,

How did you do the lights on the Z? Do you sell the parts to do this? Looks awesome.

T-Prime

i sell the light kits... and i'll install one of the sets (3 come in the kit) if you purchase an auto scale with your order (for a small fee), just let me know which you want installed. they're not hard to install if you want to DIY, just takes some superglue and aluminum foil ;) ... i'll have the Motul Autech Z back in stock in about 2 weeks, FYI

Just posted this same question in someone elses post.

My Z makes a high pitch chirping noise when you hit the throttle. It's kind of annoying. The lambo I have chirps a little, but it is so faint you can barely hear it if you try to listen for it. Is this normal? Anyone having the same issue?

It's done it since my very first run. I thought it was normal until I ran my Lambo...

its normal... check the owner's manual, it breaks down the reason for the sound ;)