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RCP-Tracks, Inc 03-15-2009 10:34 AM

New Dnano Tracks by RCP
 
The new tracks are designed for the Kyosho dNaNo, but can be used for 1/24 scale Kyosho Mini-z cars, Epochs or smaller scales as well. You will be able to incorporate the new dNaNo tracks into exisitng RCP products, if you already own some. The new tracks will be available through the Tinyrc shop.



~ Create any lane width.
~ Vary the lane width at any portion of the track and as many times as needed.
~ Replicate any circuit track though out the world.
~ Incorporates our special worm rail design that offers high impact resistant features, without causing damage to the small scale bodies.
~ Create any radius angle, corner, turn or chicane.
~ New inside corner curbs at each short radius turn for realistic look and driving advantages.
~ Short rail height for a more realistic look for the small RC cars.
~ Two grip surfaces. One smooth surface for those looking for realistic handling and one high grip for those that want to go fast. No need for foam tires when using the dNaNo on the grip side of the track.
~ Completely modular for those that want to start out small, such as a table top track or on a ping pong table. Add more pieces to make the tracks as large and challenging as you want.
~ Completely compatible with the Kyosho Mini-z cars as well. Make the lane width larger for running multiple cars at one time.
~ Compatible with original RCP Track kits. You will be able to incorporate existing RCP Tracks with your new layouts.
~ Compatible with the Kyosho dNaNo lap timing system. Kyosho, Japan and many other overseas clubs already use the Kyosho/RCP Track with the dNaNo and dNaNo lap timing system.
~ The new RCP Epoch/dNaNo tracks along with the original RCP Tracks will be incorporated into future on-line and in store racing events here in the US.
~ Modular design that allows quick rail set up and tear down with the ability to change up the course on a standard size dNaNo track in a few minutes.
~ scale like appearance that allows users to set up tracks similar to custom slot car layouts.

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arch2b 03-15-2009 10:36 AM

thanks for sharing the information here :)

tinyrc 03-15-2009 01:02 PM

Sounds very cool J - can't wait for more details! :)

-J- 03-15-2009 07:04 PM

This is great! Exactly what I was looking for! Any idea on the price range yet? A little early I know... :o

Sonik 03-16-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by -J- (Post 204662)
This is great! Exactly what I was looking for! Any idea on the price range yet? A little early I know... :o

yeah excellent news, looks like i will wait for this then instead of the mini-96, awaiting price and pics :) ,

USRaja 03-16-2009 05:29 PM

awesome! I have both your mini-96 and the larger tracks. I can't wait to see what you guys came up with for the dNaNo. I run the dNaNo on two wide l's now and it is great. Need any testers?

soulstice 03-17-2009 12:11 PM

I don't know why I didn't notice this before . . . but is this the track?

http://racednano.com/index.php?page=experience

Looks great and it's good solution. Any idea on what the cost of a 4x8 single panel would be. I think i'd be getting a 8x12 set up.

tinyrc 03-17-2009 10:33 PM

Nope, that's HT/Kyosho's carpet track, nothing to do w/ the RCP. But you can buy them from HTUSA if I understand correctly.

RCP-Tracks, Inc 03-17-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tinyrc (Post 204783)
Nope, that's HT/Kyosho's carpet track, nothing to do w/ the RCP. But you can buy them from HTUSA if I understand correctly.

Yes, tinyrc is correct. This track was designed specifically for the HobbytownUSA stores to use with their dNaNo racing program. The track series is exclusive to HobbytownUSA stores only. You can contact your local HobbytownUSA store for details about purchasing the track.

The dNaNo tracks and rail system that we have designed for home and club use is much different than the HobbytownUSA tracks. I will have details available shortly.

RCP-Tracks, Inc 03-20-2009 10:11 AM

Brian from Salt Lake Mini-z (briankstan) will be providing some additional information on our new dNaNo track along with some pictures, shortly.

Btw, Happy Birthday Brian, you old fart.

arch2b 03-20-2009 10:25 AM

i can only assume by inference that this will be related to a HFAY dNano series?

i already bought a mini-96 with expansion pack for home use (likley the 3rd one i've bought) however with your new track system being released shortly, i'm now on the fence about even opening up the boxes of track i just recently received.

how will a min-z fare on this new dnano track? by necessity, i need to eek out as much multipurpose use from whatever i end up with as possible.

how soon before the new product is up on your redeveloped website? it looks great btw!

another quick question... is there any compatibility built in with your new modular rock crawling products?

-J- 03-29-2009 07:32 AM

Any news on the track? Any idea what the price point maybe?

RCP-Tracks, Inc 04-26-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -J- (Post 204976)
Any news on the track? Any idea what the price point maybe?

I've updated the first post with new information.

Price point has not been set, but for a standard dNaNo size track that would set up in a small space such as a ping pong table, you are most likely looking at under $100. With a track this small, there are over 50 different layouts that can be created when running mostly a narrow lane width through out the course.

It will be less if you already own some of our current RCP Track kits.

arch2b 04-26-2009 02:08 PM

thanks for the update :)

RCP-Tracks, Inc 04-26-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by arch2b (Post 205438)
thanks for the update :)

Your welcome. :)

Looks like you've been busy on the forums with dNaNo info. Thanks for all the details and links.

arch2b 04-26-2009 02:39 PM

just trying to keep everyone informed :) an educated consumer is a good consumer :)

Millertime 04-27-2009 12:29 AM

Sounds very interesting! A few questions come to mind:

Will the seams/interlocking system be different than say a mini96? The dNaNo works well on the mini tiles but the seams need to be really smoothed out for the smaller cars.

Any estimated date for availability?

-J- 04-27-2009 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Millertime (Post 205452)
Sounds very interesting! A few questions come to mind:

Will the seams/interlocking system be different than say a mini96? The dNaNo works well on the mini tiles but the seams need to be really smoothed out for the smaller cars.

Any estimated date for availability?

I'm interested in this as well. I'm assuming not since it can be combined with existing RCP tracks, but I hope so.

RCP-Tracks, Inc 04-27-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Millertime (Post 205452)
Sounds very interesting! A few questions come to mind:

Will the seams/interlocking system be different than say a mini96? The dNaNo works well on the mini tiles but the seams need to be really smoothed out for the smaller cars.

Any estimated date for availability?

I can't get into too much detail at the moment, until some documents come back from the USTPO office, but yes there is a difference in the new tracks modular linking system compared to the standard Mini-96. The joints for the smaller cars should not be an issue. We will have adapter pieces available to join current kits with the new tracks.

All our current track tiles are groomed at the factor to give it the porous or sponge texture that allows the dust to settle in the pores and helps the track obtain its grip. During this process, the tile height from section to section get very close to each other. Standard exercise mats do not go through this process, so due to temperatures and the materials the mats are made up of, you can get a big difference in thickness from tile to tile. You can see this in some of the home tracks that people have used exercise mats. There are usually large gaps between the links as well as a much larger height differences from tile to tile. Our grooming process helps bring the heights closer from tile to tile at the interlocking link. We also make the tiles out of the best material mixes, so this also helps keep the tiles from expanding or growing in height. Most exorcise mats are made from lower quality mixes which make them stiff and pron to shrinkage and expansion at higher rates than the RCP tiles.

Even with the grooming process and the high quality mixes we use, you will still find height differences in some of the tiles. Do to the temperature differences from our factory and other locations, there will always be a slight difference on selected tiles. When running my dNaNo on Mini-96 track layouts, I simply find the tile or tiles that are affecting the cars performance and put a piece of thick tape under the tile at the interlocking line where it joins up with a thicker tile. This brings the lower tile up to the height of the adjoining tile. This has worked very well on our tracks and the tracks I have built for Kyosho for trade show dNaNo demos.

Below is a picture of a custom track I did for the Mitsubishi Corporation. You can see how the tiles mesh together. It almost looks like one piece of mat. I fit a piece of tape on some of the tile interlocking sections that were off just a little.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/651/mitsub4.jpg

We are working to make the new tracks available to Tinyrc as soon as possible.

arch2b 04-28-2009 10:24 PM

that is a very interesting track layout :)

RCP-Tracks, Inc 04-28-2009 10:32 PM

Yes, we were given exact measurements to follow. Something to do with the Mitsubishi logo. Another custom track was created to match the Puma cat logo and the Shanghai International Circuit track. Those layouts were huge and measured close to 60ft in length.

tinyrc 04-28-2009 10:51 PM

You beat me to it, I was going to suggest it looked a bit like the three diamonds! I'd love to see the Puma one, those who have met me in person know that I'm made of 80% Puma and 40% Red Bull (yes, I realize the overflow - 100% isn't enough). :D

arch2b 04-29-2009 08:45 AM

yeah, i too would love to see pictures of the other two :)

mugler 05-05-2009 11:34 PM

Any idea when you'll be able to post pics of your new dNano track?

RCP-Tracks, Inc 05-05-2009 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mugler (Post 205670)
Any idea when you'll be able to post pics of your new dNano track?

Should have something for you to view by next week.

mugler 05-06-2009 01:29 AM

Sounds good...can't wait to check it out!

mugler 05-12-2009 12:41 AM

I guess this is the week to see the new track :-)

-J- 05-12-2009 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RCPMini-z (Post 347097)
Although we do manufacture interlocking carpet tiles, we are most likely not going to incorporate them into the new tracks. We had our factory make some one off RCP Wide L kits using the carpet tile surface and we could not get the joints smooth enough for the dNaNo car. The process of laminating the carpet to the 5/8" foam and the carpet closed loop height difference from loop to loop, is what made the tiles uneven. The standard Mini-96 RCP tiles do have a slight difference in height which can be corrected with a few tape shims, but the carpet tiles were too far off from doing this fix. We are going to do one more test with thin 1/4" carpet tiles. With the thin foam, we may end up with a smoother joint for the dNaNo. We are also going to laminate a flatter, non-closed loop carpet surface to them to see if this helps. I will let you know how those tests work out.

Our new carpet track design incorporate large sections of racing carpet. Standard sections will be approx 6ft x 12ft or a little less, which will be plenty of room for a starter dNaNo track for someones home, garage or office space. If someone wants to increase the size of the track, they can use standard carpet tape or velcro to join the seems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCPMini-z (Post 347031)
Thanks guys for the nice comments about our tracks.

FYI, we do have a new carpet track coming out that will suit those who are looking for more of a permanent and scale looking track layout. The carpet track will be available with either our existing foam barriers or can be ordered with our new PP (polypropylene) worm rails. The kits will incorporate scale like inside corner curbs and grass run off options. We designed the track for the dNaNo cars, but it can be used for the mini-z as well. The worm rails are 3/4" high and can flex to any radius, sweep or chicane. You can vary the lane width at any point of the track .. The worm rails will attach to either our carpet or our RCP foam tiles for those that may already have some of our track products, but are looking to change the foam rails out.

^ This is what RCP posted on MZR on the subject. Sounds promising. :)

RCP-Tracks, Inc 05-12-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mugler (Post 205765)
I guess this is the week to see the new track :-)

Yes, this week is still looking good.

RCP-Tracks, Inc 05-14-2009 01:38 PM

We are taking some media and marketing pictures tomorrow. I will have the pictures available here at Tinyrc sometime over the weekend or early next week at the latest.

We are working to provide two different surfaces for the carpet version of the dNaNo tracks. The first will be made out of a very similar if not the exact type of carpet used on the HTUSA tracks. This way if you have your car set up for those tracks, you won't have to make adjustments to your set up. The second version will be more of a high grip racing surface for those that like this type of set up. We are working with one of the members here on the forums who has done extensive research in carpet tracks and are working together to provide the best surface for high grip dNaNo tracks.

The new track rails, curbs and grass runoffs will be available for those who would like to run their dNaNo on our current RCP racing tiles. We will provide a special attachment that will allow the new worm rails, curbs and other props to secure to the RCP tiles.

I am also taking pictures of our new inside radius curbs and rail liner for the standard 50cm and 30cm RCP tracks. I will have those pictures available at the same time.

arch2b 05-14-2009 03:17 PM

awsome! i can't wait to get the opportunity to try some of the new stuff both at home and club racing.


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