dnano track possibility
 

http://realtracksonline.com/id18.html

not sure what the policies is on this but this looks like a great dnano track just order one so I will let you know! not very expensive !

i also noticed these tracks, i think i seen the guy selling on ebay aswell, but after watching the demo vid , it looks to me like its very hard plastic, will this be a good surface ? i thought it may be a bit to slippery , let us know how you get on though, cos its cheap :)

i saw these 2 while researching "competition"... i'm into aesthetics and his joint looks cheesy to me. plus i'd have 2 agree with sonik, the surface doesn't look smooth enough for dnano

nice concept. the surface looks too hard as mentioned. it appears to be nothing more than molded plastic sheeting with rolled edges for the normal track. i'm not sure how you lock the off the shelf edging material on?

Hey frist time post just recevied a 16inch x 24 pc realtraks race track. What a blast. This track goes together with ease and the dNaNo flat out handles with ease. The locking system is perfect and althought when I first saw it I had similar doutbs, yet all of those doubts flew out the window when I actually tried it. It is in my opion far better as far as using a dNaNo or an Epoch than a RCP any day. I have four RCP tracks and others and this track is by far the most fun I've had yet!

sorry I haven't posted back on this we just had a baby, and I don't have a lot of time to post, or race right now... but I second what MROSS 1 just said! track is great! especial if you have limited space like myself. and you can't beat the price! Miles the guy that runs the company is super cool as well. I will try and right a proper review when I get some time!

Congrats popdada - our daughter was just born on March 2nd - have you slept yet?!? ;) :D

i look forward to a proper review.

March 10 th for my baby boy! ( we now have one of each, boy and a 7 yr girl ) so I'm done! he sleeps much better than his sister! will go down for around 3 hours at the end of the nigt! congrats toy you man! nothing better! I got the flat track so the family can just walk around it. Miles is sending me a few of the new curves to try out. the other thing with this track is you can set it up out side and if it rains, just wipe it off and it's good to go!

My dNaNo is fast and just as fast as my stock mini-z. Are you sure about how it handles on a 14" plastic track. I consider myself a good driver and I need way more room to run such a little and super fast car.

flat track is 16 in, I've raced my mini z on it!

Ok 16in, my opinion still not enough room for the dNaNo. You really need to get one to see how quick they are and they need a semi grippy surface like carpet or rubber to handle the high speed turns. I've run the dNaNo on both types of tracks.

Well, I would consider bringing these back, if there was enough interest. (originally designed for Epoch 1/43 a few years back). The lanes can be any width you desire and the whole thing sets up in 5-10 minutes and then you roll it up and tuck it under your arm to take it home.

Regarding lane width, you can greatly reduce the width, if you bank some of the corners (notice the two far corners). Banked corners= more realistic also.

The surface is Ozite racing carpet, with a "grippy" beginner's side and a regular race side. Rails attach with Velcro and can be bent to any shape, making for true corners or a re-creation of famous circuits.

Need of a market of a 100+ or so to make it worthwhile though and to keep the cost reasonable ($199-249) for the 12'x6' you see in the picture.

I need to get three or four Dnano's here to test, and hopefully the lap timer, if I can find one. Please let me know if you know any worldwide source for the Kyosho timer.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8501/...opracing12.jpgWhat do you guys think? - Lorne

Oh! I remember now - is this the one where you can drop the rail on and it magically stands up etc.? :)

I did not want there to be any confusion between the previous post showing another product that is not RealTracks. Here is the the 42 Piece 8'x12' RealTracks Road Course.
Thanks
Miles
RealTracks RC Racing Systems

http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtra...40_pc_road.jpg
42 Piece Track Pack
http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtra...stack_400x.jpg
42 Piece TrackPack ready to stow.
http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtra...vsflat400x.jpg
Standard vs FlatTrack
http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtra...ftrack400x.jpg
Off the track with FlatTrack

Yes, that's it ...although I haven't made any for a few years. It's a Porta-Trax, made from Ozite racing carpet ... the whole thing rolls up and fits under your arm. These should be much cheaper for me to ship into the US than the Mini-Z tracks; which I sold primarily in Canada because of high ship costs.

I just wish the market were larger to make manufacturing the track kits more than just a sideline ..let's hope the dNano takes off; although without a $99 price point I'm skeptical of the eventual market size.

And yes, it's not to be confused with the above poster's product, which looks completely different. - Lorne

Lorne, maybe start a new thread w/ more info on the Porta-Trax to prevent confusion w/ Miles' RealTracks system? :)

...will do. I'll stay out of this thread unless asked a specific question and start a new one once I get some cars and do some initial testing. - Lorne

please email or pm me as i have alternative solutions i would like to suggest as well :)

just got the new wide curves today! set up a big nascar oval and did a few laps with both a dnano and a mini z ! track works great! just make sure you keep your tires clean! I run foam on my mini and it sticks like glue!

Very cool! We've got one arriving tomorrow and are looking forward to sharing our feedback too! :)

Sweet! It takes some practice, it’s much more like really racing, you can’t just go flying around the track you’ve really got to pay attention to your speed and your line. and you'll want high grip tires

what's a good dnano tire setup?

I use 10 front and back.

Woah. I normally use harder tires in the front than in the back. I use 50 upfront and 40 in the back.

It all depends on what surface you're running on. The tires are only a buck or two, get a few sets and see what you like best. ;)

Not here in the US. I can only find them on eBay for $10 for 4 tires including shipping.

everybody's got their favorite set up! I like to drop the the body real low and have super sticky tires!

What are the stock tires comparable to?

I believe, and this could vary from car to car, but my F40 came with 50s all around out of the box.

The rears on mine seem to be quite sticky. The fronts aren't bad like the ones that come on Mini Z's but they are not as sticky as the rears... The Mini Z stock tires are no good.

I believe they are $4/pr at HTUSA. :)

That's right. ;)

Well, I just bought four 30° Kyosho fronts for $10.xx shipped from eBay. My area's HTUSA doesn't carry dnano or mini z stuff.

did you get the track?

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NanoTrax
Great job on your store and site. It looks like you put a lot of hard work into it. I wish you the success you’ve worked hard for. We are also glad to hear that things have settled somewhat in Bangkok. I should have responded to your post sooner. When I read it I was initially surprised until I looked more closely at some of the photos online of RealTracks and realized you were right. The Track is very sensitive to flash photography and we get light bouncing back to the camera from the joints and surface. So it did in fact appear that some of the joints were "cheesy" as you put it :). Anyway here is a close up, I just wanted to give you a better representation of the joint. Each edge connector is milled on CNC equipment and usually held to few thousandths tolerance. We designed in a moderate lateral tolerance to allow ease of assembly of track sections. The interlocking tabs of each section provide a completely smooth transition between sections every time. The only issue we are trying to improve upon is the width tolerance of each section. Our customers don't seem to notice but we do. Our vertical shear process can only hold about .030 tolerance. This shows up in the width of some pieces. Again, not really noticeable and is does not affect the performance but we notice it and are working to change the process to get within .005 every time. I know this was a lot of detail but this appears to be a very discerning group, and I like that. It keeps us on our toes and continually pushes product improvement. Please feel free to ask any questions or make recommendations and I will try and be more responsive in this forum.

Thanks for making us aware of the issue NanoTrax.

Miles
RealTracks RC Racing Systems

http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtra...joint__600.jpg

nice close up of the texture. i'm waiting to hear from tinyrc and how he likes the realtracks he has coming.

it looks like a very stiff material. i assume this needs a very flat subfloor inorder to maintain a consistently flat surface?

how does this material handle exposure to sunlight?

We've had two group testing sessions so far, and I don't recall their being any bumpiness at all, the transition is quite seamless. Working on the full-blown review, happy to answer any quick questions in the interim though! :)

Thanks for the questions Arch2b

Yes you are correct. If you want a flat track you need a flat surface. RealTracks will follow what ever the surface is under it. It is best used over low pile carpet. The green indoor/outdoor carpet you see in the photo is $15.99 for a 6’x8’ section at Lowes Home Centers. It is very lightweight and is easily stored. We just got some of the heavier plastic indoor/outdoor carpet that looks like grass that we are going to test. RealTracks is hard surfaced like you said, but each section is moderately flexible. A 16” straight can be easily flexed to a 90 degree angle with about 4 lbs of force. You can place items under the carpet or track to simulate Road Atlanta style racing. It is very interesting how the cars behave coming off a rise into a turn or taking banked or off camber turns. The banked turn picture is just to illustrate the tracks flexibility. The material we use is UV rated. You can leave it outside but it will warp from time to time based on several factors. If it is on the ground the bottom of the track will absorb moisture causing the lower surface to expand more than the top surface and the track edges will raise slightly. As soon as the moisture content stabilizes the track goes back to normal. A similar but opposite effect will happen when the sun initially hits the track If the sun gets hot quickly it will initially expand the upper surface of the track more than the lower because the lower is in contact with the cooler ground or material. This time the center of the track will raise. Again once the track temperature stabilizes the track returns to normal. While it is OK to leave the track outside temporarily, we don’t recommend it for the long term in the sun, day after day. We have had a small oval set up outside in the sun since September 08. One section has lightened up slightly but is has held up remarkably well the last time I checked it. By the end of this summer we should have more definitive data in this area and we will make recommendations accordingly. If it is under some sort of cover and off the ground the track will be fine.

Thanks again for the questions,

Miles
RealTracks RC Racing Systems

http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtracks_pics/bank1.jpg

try it,,, you'll like it
 

I have a large set of realtracks I bought for my dnano. I was disappointed with the traction when I first used it. It was good practice though, and I used a bit. But, then I got bored with it and put it away.

Then, I had occasion to use it again and I had an idea! I used the same approach to traction we use in 10th scale outdoor racing... ROOTBEER!

You really need to try this. Traction goes through the roof! In fact, you don't want to lay it down heavy at all. All you need to do is wet a cloth with the rootbeer and wipe the track down. A light film is all you want. Wait for it to dry. If you do it right, you will find it barely, barely feels sticky, or not at all. If it feels sticky, use a damp (water) cloth and thin it out. If it feels sticky, the car will feel like it's on velcro, too much traction... really!

Now, clean your tires and try it out. It RIPS. Go get the x-speed you can use that now!!!

The light coating will last days. You may notice the traction fading after an hour or so of running. Clean your tires with damp (water) cloth and let them dry. The traction comes right back. I guess the sugar on sugar is not good. The rubber seems to love the sugar! Keep the tires clean and have fun.