Why doesn't anyone make a RTR or full kitted 2WD or 4WD TTTT truck?
 

With the popularity of these in Germany...and the spreading popularity in other parts of the world... and the availability of small electronics (I have a 1-87 scale RC car...not propo but cool nonetheless...and fast)... why doesn't someone like Revell, or Carson...or even one of the independent RC Companies make a RTR or kit TTTT Truck?... either 4WD or 2WD doesn't matter at this point...

Either they're ignorant of the concept, or they're afraid to tool up for a market that might not be that big.

Though you know if somebody like Tamiaya, or Futuba made them, it'd be just about THE hottest new trend. it'd be so cool, but unless we start bothering like every company we can about how they need to build these, I doubt it'll hapen.

I think Nathan found a site were someone would make you a custom one. Kinda pricey but I guess that comes with the custom part. I also thought half the was actually making it the way you want it.

Yeah I contacted Thorsten about making me an RTR. I don't wanna just give out the prices he quoted me so shoot him an email if interested. Pricey but well worth the cost. Everything I've seen of his is quite impressive.

I definitely want to build but as far as making a chassis I really want an RTR to reference. I feel very overwhelmed taking on custom making a chassis.

same here.... I just ordered a bunch of parts from www.mikroantriebe.de. A motor, gearbox (1:120), a tiny ESC, and a servo...and I already have a tiny GWS Rx, a chassis and front axle from TTTT-Parts.org, a Lemo-Solar box motor...and three MAN 5T's (two still in boxes, one already cut up) and some tiny 120Mah cells...(the little green ones).... but I still feel a bit intimidated... I tried using a mini-Z board and wiring it to a standard servo but I messed something up and it didn't work ...that would have been ideal....

I totally wouldn't mind an RTR or at least w/o the radio(they use different frequensices over seas anyway) to get the hang of this thing... then building my own with the parts I have later...

when it all boils down.. eventually I want a six-wheel drive MAN7t with lights.... but I have to take baby steps first...and never seeing one of these in person before makes things hard.... Even if Nate gets his...at least I can look and see how it's made and go from there

Lets see some pictures of your work in progress, Jimmy.

I'll se what I can do later... I'm going to SV Speedway today with my bike for a bit after the big 5th scale race

You can buy TTTT Trucks as RTR or as a complete kit.

Just follow this link http://www.mikromodellbau.de/en-index.html. It is the same shop, which was mentioned by akura2. www.tttt-parts.org

Allmost complete kits are listed under "catalogue" - "Kits"

There is a short description, what you will get and what you else will need in addition to the kit. Unfourtunatly it is only available in "German" - http://www.mikromodellbau.de/ follow the links "Katalog" - "komplette Kits" - scroll down to the end of the page - try "bablefish" for a translation.

They sell RTR modells as well, as far as i know. But iam sure they are really expensive!

diets - is only a customer and in no way related to the shop

Peter from TTTT-Parts.org almost got mad at me when i asked for a RTR truck...:D

He really wants me to try and build my own.. so it's ok and I understand


I'm in love with the Roco 484 on the front page of his site... and I can't wait until he has the dual axle setup ready to buy

I have an infrared system on it way from him... (the receiver has a built-in speed control so that will save space), and the Man kit... but the kits are only the chassis, motor and gearbox, and front axle.... the two kits that are at the top of the page include some electronics.. but they are still not RTR... I guess the RTR ones are special order and not posted on the site

from Peter's page

"Alle Mehrachser werden nur noch auf Sonderbestellung (Antriebsstrang vormontiert) gefertigt"

Which means, that all trucks with more than 2 axis, are special orders and will be shipped in a premounted condition. But this regards only to the drive train. Everything else must be done by yourself :rolleyes:


diets - thought, they are completly RTR - sorry

No problem...:D

He DID say that in the spring time he may make me a 484 if time allows... but by then I hope to have a couple TTTs built on my ow

this is what he said when I asked to buy the 484 from his site:

"The 484 is a model, built for an exhibition and we wont sell it, now. If there will be enough time (maybe in spring), we can do one for You, but the problem with ready-built models is always the transport and warranty. "

Here are some snappies of what I have so far... I've got more parts on the way... (some infrared controller and receiver stuff...and some new motor, gearboxes, and chassis)

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5741/man2sb.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6245/man28if.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3997/cab9gu.jpg

Looking good Jimmy. Man that does not look easy at all. Still looks like you have a lot more custom pieces that you have to put in there.

actually I have a really tiny ESC on its way... after that.. all I have to do is mount everything, run wires, and attach the servo to the steering rack and I'm done.... after that clean it up and make it look presentable..LOL

I DO have a bunch of parts on the way though... so I'll do another truck or two... (with infrared)

but once I get that esc, I should be set with this one

Use the time till the new parts arrive ;) The steering is imho the most difficult part.

You can drive by wire until you get the new esc.

That's what i allways do, during the development of a new truck. I connect only the motor and the servo with thin (enamelled) wires to standard components from my 1:10 rc's. It is easier to work on the truck without all the electronics on board.

diets - warum einfach, wenn es kompliziert auch geht

Ok... well I'm going to get some wire fir the steering and some micro connectors for the battery and motor...

and for the Receiver I already have (in the pictures) I'm going to cut down the pins and direct solder the wires (I'm not going to use it for anything else anyway) for the servo and speed controller (when I get it) so that everything except for the wires can fit in the cab and I'll run the wires through a hole into the bed


I just wish I had ordered JST connected parts in the first place....

they take up a lot less room

By thw way Diets,,, I see some guys using monster truck tires on their TTTT trucks... where are those from?

http://www.mikro-truck-trial.de/img/monsterpix/01.jpg

if the truck is ready, i don't use connectors, because they need too much room, even the JST.

Best thing is soldering with (ultra) thin wires.

There are two supplier with different type of tires.

Wiking
Wiking part# 0140226 Breitreifen für Fendt Vario
This ist the correspondig modell
http://web94.go-server.com/catalog/p...oducts_id/7659
Do a search for "Wi-0140226" at http://www.tyrotoys.de/en/index.php?

Busch
http://web94.go-server.com/catalog/p...fee793bd3665c6

I am sure you can get them at different shops. These are only the first i found!

diets - maybe they sell them in the staates as well?

Danke Diets, sind Sie solch eine grosse Hilfe gewesen!


:D

do the infared rx/tx allow for proportional steering/throttle?? I've just assumed they don't but I could be wrong.

You're welcome!

btw - your german is perfect ;)

The infrared system is fully proportional as well.

But there is one significant difference to FM. You can drive only one truck in the same area. There are (usually) no different channels.

diets - you have to drive serial not parallel :D

Diets is right.... the infrared is full proportional... but there are only four channels availble from the places that sell the components....1.2.3.and 4... and you can't really drive though tunnels and stuff (though I HAVE driven my Digi-Q's behind objects....and you COULD make the insides of tunnels reflective or white so that the signal can bounce around and still hit the receiver)

But you get steering control and built in ESC in a very VERY small package, no antenna... and with some infrared Rx's you even get lights and stuff

I cheated....LOL


by the way... all I need now is the micro ESC I ordered from Germany and I'll be finished with my first TTTT Truck...everything else is in place on the chassis.... I just need to test it...then finalize the wiring and wrap it up and paint...

then when my infrared gear gets here... I'll start on my next one...

I'm going to have two man 5T's (one RC and one IR) and a Roco 484 eventually....(waiting for the special two-axle gearbox from TTTT-Parts.org to be released) I might do a MAN7T when that axle comes out too


luckily I bought that box of Herpa off-road truck tires....
http://www.1zu87.com/bilder/2627.JPG

Tunnels, etc. are not the main problem, because you allways have some reflections of the infrared signal. Try it with your tv set ir controller ;)

I can point anywhere in a small room with my ir transmitter, without any serious problems.

The ir system from www.ttt-parts.org has four channels, that's true. But you can't drive two (or more) cars at the same time.

The only advantage is, that you don't have to switch of a car, if a second one is running on the trial modul. If you try to use two transmitters at the same time (even with different channels), they would interfere. That is because they all send on the same IR frequency (normally 38 KHz).

Unlike to the "normal" FM Systems, with different subbands (27.045 Mhz, 27.095 Mhz, etc .)

@akura2
Did you manage the steering? New pics? Maybe a new thread with your truck and your progress?

Nice tires! I hope you use them only for a mold. Because they are definatly to hard. You should use silicone or latex tires. They will improve the climbing abilities of your trucks.

diets - hill climbing without silicones? no way!