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TeamBonzer 11-24-2004 01:40 PM

Metl Tech Racers
 
I think that you are going to need a new sub-section when these are launched (soon in the USA)

I have put a short review with pictures on my website - here is the link Metl Tech Racers

Retail will be around $80 USD, might seem a lot, but you are getting a very interesting package for your bucks.

Cheers

TB

Btman 11-29-2004 07:53 PM

I have been waiting for these to come out. It sounds like they will set new standards for small scale RC cars. What do you think about the controller? This has been a area of concern for me.

Btman 11-29-2004 10:58 PM

Do these cars have front or rear springs/suspension or no suspension at all?

TeamBonzer 11-30-2004 09:16 AM

Hi

no suspension in sight.

Also, because of a lack of a nuckle at the front, you wont be able to add any either (or at least as far as I can see)

Cheers

TB

bdnunchaku 12-01-2004 03:34 PM

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Another pic.

DarkTari 12-07-2004 01:13 PM

$80.00 :eek: NFW

TeamBonzer 12-07-2004 01:35 PM

Yo DT, what yo doin over here? - split personality?

:D

$80 USD is pretty steep, but they are like nothing else.

You pays your money and takes yer choice:rolleyes:

Wait till I get some vid of it actually moving, might not seem so steep then.

Definately a collectors item rather than a toy for kids - but it will perform against the best.

Cheers

TB

MoobY 12-07-2004 09:21 PM

The steering mechanism in those cars looks weird. (at least, to me, but I'm new to micro cars) Also, the remote controle in the above picture looks awkward.

DarkTari 12-08-2004 01:11 PM

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Yo DT, what yo doin over here? - split personality?
Yo Pimp ! I been hanging around this hood goin on 2 years now :cool:
It's my 2nd home.....

Now where are dem Vids ??????

JackD 12-17-2004 07:03 AM

Yeah man...where dem vids.....

bdnunchaku 12-17-2004 11:21 AM

I received this in an email from the manufacturers. The following cars will also be available:

Lamborghini Murcielago
Corvette C5R
Ford Taurus Stock Car
Chevy Monte Carlo Stock Car
Ford Mustang Concept
New Beetle?

Sdog 12-17-2004 01:15 PM

I posted this in another thread, but I'm posting it here too because it merits it..

These things seem to have potential...nice control and acceleration in a compact low-profile chassis. Although I haven't see any close-ups, the bodies appear to be pretty detailed and to scale. The chassis antenna is an interesting design, but the verdict is still out on the range these cars will offer.

However, it also appears to have some serious limitations . That controller looks plain silly, especially for a car of that price. The lack of suspension is a bummer too. The price is the worst limitation, considering you can buy 3 ZZ SE's and some type of upgrade kit for the same price.

Yeah, the ZZ SE has its limitations too. However, their performance (run time aside) has increased to the point where the only serious downside right now is the high profile of the chassis that encourages bodies that are out of scale.

That price quote of $80 is a big mistake as far as I'm concerned. They will be selling very few of them at that price, especially with that controller and the lack of suspension these cars offer. They need to get the price closer to a ZZ SE. If that price was halved, for instance, they have a much better chance of surviving. If you really want one, get it quick....I don't think they are going to be around long. I'm waiting until they go on clearance because they can't sell them at that price.

bdnunchaku 12-17-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Sdog
I posted this in another thread, but I'm posting it here too because it merits it..

These things seem to have potential...nice control and acceleration in a compact low-profile chassis. Although I haven't see any close-ups, the bodies appear to be pretty detailed and to scale. The chassis antenna is an interesting design, but the verdict is still out on the range these cars will offer.

However, it also appears to have some serious limitations . That controller looks plain silly, especially for a car of that price. The lack of suspension is a bummer too. The price is the worst limitation, considering you can buy 3 ZZ SE's and some type of upgrade kit for the same price.

Yeah, the ZZ SE has its limitations too. However, their performance (run time aside) has increased to the point where the only serious downside right now is the high profile of the chassis that encourages bodies that are out of scale.

That price quote of $80 is a big mistake as far as I'm concerned. They will be selling very few of them at that price, especially with that controller and the lack of suspension these cars offer. They need to get the price closer to a ZZ SE. If that price was halved, for instance, they have a much better chance of surviving. If you really want one, get it quick....I don't think they are going to be around long. I'm waiting until they go on clearance because they can't sell them at that price.

yup

Btman 12-18-2004 06:34 PM

The price is right in line with what Epoch indoor racers originally sold for. My main concern is lack of suspension and the looks of the controller. After buying many small scale rc cars that did not work as well as expected, paying 80-90 dollars for one that really works with great body detailing wont be that bad. I am very tempted to buy one of these to try it out. The holidays have put a pinch on funds however.

bdnunchaku 12-18-2004 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by Btman
The price is right in line with what Epoch indoor racers originally sold for. My main concern is lack of suspension and the looks of the controller. After buying many small scale rc cars that did not work as well as expected, paying 80-90 dollars for one that really works with great body detailing wont be that bad. I am very tempted to buy one of these to try it out. The holidays have put a pinch on funds however.
That's a pretty good point concerning the price. I'm sure many people on this forum have spent at least that much on bits. No one can deny that the Metl Tech racers are a mini-rc enthusiast wet dream. No need for any performance mods and who would want to at $80? Also, the bodies are listed at $10.95, but they are diecast.

Still, my preference is to get a cheap bit and mod the crap out of it. After all, modding is half the fun.

Sdog 12-19-2004 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by bdnunchaku
That's a pretty good point concerning the price. I'm sure many people on this forum have spent at least that much on bits. No one can deny that the Metl Tech racers are a mini-rc enthusiast wet dream. No need for any performance mods and who would want to at $80? Also, the bodies are listed at $10.95, but they are diecast.

Still, my preference is to get a cheap bit and mod the crap out of it. After all, modding is half the fun.

Actually, that is a pretty bad point considering these are a not epochs and they are a completely different scale. As far as a being a micro enthusiast's wet dream....that remains to be seen. BTman makes a good point about buying new 1:64 scale cars and being dissapointed. That disappointment is much easier to swallow when you have only paid $5 - $25. Even if these things are they best thing to come out in 1:64 scale, they still are not worth $80....they are 1:64 scale. $10 for a diecast body? Give me a Johnny Lightning diecast for $1.70 at KB.

TeamBonzer 12-19-2004 08:44 AM

Just received a replacement controller (the origonal had some dodgey wiring), so I should be able to get some vids done now (XMas and kids allowing).

Also got a couple of new BMW shells (the first one in the pictures was pre production - the new ones have even better detail - but I will need to use super zoom to show the detail). I also got an unpainted 1st shoot sample of the new chevy monte-carlo - awesome.

I will get pics and video as soon as time allows.

Cheers

TB

bdnunchaku 12-19-2004 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Sdog
Actually, that is a pretty bad point considering these are a not epochs and they are a completely different scale. As far as a being a micro enthusiast's wet dream....that remains to be seen. BTman makes a good point about buying new 1:64 scale cars and being dissapointed. That disappointment is much easier to swallow when you have only paid $5 - $25. Even if these things are they best thing to come out in 1:64 scale, they still are not worth $80....they are 1:64 scale. $10 for a diecast body? Give me a Johnny Lightning diecast for $1.70 at KB.
Did you read the last sentence in my post? I prefer the $5 bits (ebay), but you can't deny that most have spent enough to buy a Metl Tech. I would never buy an $80 toy because it shouldn't have to be modded. And that disappointment of buying crappy bits could have been avoided if you did some research. Do some more research on Metl tech racers before you base it on the price tag. How can you compare these to the current bits available today? Been eating retard sandwiches again?

Also, after watching several video's of the Metl Tech's, it doesn't take a genius to figure out if they are quality or not.

TeamBonzer 12-19-2004 12:21 PM

Hi guys

if you want some more pictures, the guys at bitracer.de have just posted some - a bit better quality than mine. Here is the link

http://549.rapidforum.com/topic=100479875803&startid=2

Cheers

TB

bdnunchaku 12-19-2004 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by TeamBonzer
Hi guys

if you want some more pictures, the guys at bitracer.de have just posted some - a bit better quality than mine. Here is the link

http://549.rapidforum.com/topic=100479875803&startid=2

Cheers

TB

Very nice! Designing the antenna to be located under the chassis will make a lot of people on this forum very happy. And the fact that the Metl Tech's will fit certain 1/64 diecast cars doesn't hurt. I still can't believe that this bit is reported to have 21 steps each way for the proportional steering. I'm sure one of my friends will buy one to race against my dual cell bit. It'll just give me an excuse to redesign it again.

I'm still curious about that funky controller. Is it designed to be used in one hand?

Sdog 12-19-2004 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by bdnunchaku
Did you read the last sentence in my post? I prefer the $5 bits (ebay),


I read your last post....why are you getting so defensive?

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Originally posted by bdnunchaku
I would never buy an $80 toy because it shouldn't have to be modded.
Thanks for proving my point.

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Originally posted by bdnunchaku
And that disappointment of buying crappy bits could have been avoided if you did some research. Do some more research on Metl tech racers before you base it on the price tag.
I never said I was dissapointed by my bits. I was quoting someone else. I know plenty about 1:64 scale cars....don't lecture me about doing my research. I research the hell out of everything, which is why I am not so quick to buy in to a new product and hype....unlike some others. That last sentence makes no sense....base what on the price tag?

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Originally posted by bdnunchaku How can you compare these to the current bits available today? Been eating retard sandwiches again? Also, after watching several video's of the Metl Tech's, it doesn't take a genius to figure out if they are quality or not.
I've seen the video...so what? They don't prove much of anything. I haven't compared the quality of Metl Tech cars to other bits. In fact, I haven't stated whether these Metl Tech cars are high quality or not. Why? Because there is no way I can know what the quality is at this point. Neither can you. So genius....instead of blindly following the opinion of people who may have a financial gain in the sale of these new Metl Tech cars, try thinking for yourself. Actually I'll tell you what, after you drop your $80 bucks on a 1:64 scale car and run it for a while, let me know whether or not it is worth it.

Again, my point and my opinion is that no 1:64 scale car is worth $80, no matter what the quality....you obviously agreed with me by saying you would never buy an $80 toy. I'm looking forward to some real reviews of these things when a few people start picking them up.

bdnunchaku 12-19-2004 06:49 PM

Blindly following the opinion of other people? Do you think I could make an assessment of the Metl Tech's performance just by a video of the steering? Again, do some more research, bonzer isn't the only one with videos of these bits.

Yes, I was agreeing with you. My $5 single speed bit that I've modded is better than the expensive bits that my coworkers own. As I stated, that is why I would never buy the best.

I mentioned "disappointment of buying crappy bits" because I just can't see how the Metl Tech racers would be more of a "hit or miss" than the $5-$25 bits. I made my assessment on the manufacturer specs, owner reviews and video's which show it's performance (top speed, acceleration and handling).

As far as quality, look at the open pic of the chassis. It's my opinion that this is very well designed. I am a mechanical engineer, so I trust what I have learned in the past. I went to grad school! Research was all I did for 2.5 years! Take my opinion for what it's worth. Everyone is free to express their views in this forum. Now if you will excuse me, I WILL take a "Bourbon time out.":eek:

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TeamBonzer 12-20-2004 04:57 AM

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Originally posted by bdnunchaku
I still can't believe that this bit is reported to have 21 steps each way for the proportional steering.
Believe it dude - I have no reason to pull your chain :D

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Originally posted by bdnunchaku
I'm still curious about that funky controller. Is it designed to be used in one hand?
Yes you can use it in one hand (or two). Not the best controller for racing, but for controlled driving at very slow or fast speeds it is fine.

I think that I have finally come to the conclusion that at this scale and speed, propo is a disadvantage when racing, the only thing that I have found potentially useful to gain advantage is an auto-slow down on turn feature (ToyEast mini's) - a bit like the anti-boost mod, but automatic.

Cheers

TB

Lets keep this thread less cluttered please


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Namuna 12-20-2004 06:51 AM

#1. This thread is about the Metl Tech Racers, KEEP it that way.

#2. bdnunchaku, you are now on WARNING. Cleanup the language AND backoff on attacking others because they give you criticism. If you have to resort to verbally attacking people because you can't defend your point-of-view then you won't be welcome on these Forums.

#3. Sdog, you've been around for awhile...You KNOW better than to engage in a flamewar, if someone is out of line click the 'report this post to a moderator' link!!! You're only getting YOURSELF in trouble by retaliating.

Stick to the topic people.


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