a guide on how not to get ripped off...
 

so.. here is a few sites that have some big rip offs.. i mean like up to $200 over what they should be priced...and also some site where you can get it cheaper...

ok... the scams on xmodspeed.com... those "r-tune" and "s-tune" motors are huge rip-offs.. they most likely bought them from www.mini-zworkshop.com.. then the 5 and 6 cells...do i have to go on about them? you can get them where you bough your xmod at for like $2 or somthing...then the nitro-charger...wtf is that.. its most likely just some 4000uf cap but you can get a 1 fared cap from allelectronics for only about $3 i think.. then the hotwires... you can just go to any 1/10th or 1/18th electric r/c site that sells wires and get them for only about $1 a foot or so.. then the stage 1 turbo.. it only includes 2 fets ( i think) which are most likely irf or maybe even si4562dy's which you can get from newark.com for only about $2 a piece and gets lower the more you buy...then the sb motor... should i say more? tight turns.... may only cost like $1 and just search the forums...then the aluminium lugs... most likely the biggest rip of... you can get it for like0.10 from homedepot or maybe lowes..range repair kit..just search the forums.. $1 at most...tire tack is most likely just window cleaner..spin-ez might just be oil? then gear juice??? you would be better off selling the graphite from pencil shavings..oh and for the lion batteries...just search the forum and it will lead you to a place on how to make the charger and get the batteries from cheap...

next site.. xmods xtreme store... solder.. get that at any good 1/10th or 1/18th site that deals with electronics..$2 at least..speed checker...had a set at my hobby shop for only $13 a piece..5 cell mod... check up there... and get a real url instead of http://xtrememods.freewebsitehosting.com/Home.html ...

new site...xtreemers.homestead.com... why homestead.. anyways...with the parts... c/f drive shafts... one.. you can buy a foot of it for about $0.50... then the hollow about 0.75..ill post the link where when i find it again.. then fwd driveshaft? no...dont even try that...then the ultimate xmod bearings... 8.35 a piece!?!? wtf was the guy thinking when he wrote that.. if you bought even 1 of those you deserve to get a dummy smack...then the atomic mods lithium batts... again..just search and you will find the links to do this for under $20...

next site... mighty mods.com... mini-zworkshop and auldy cans and maybe even motors itself... bah... i wouldn't buy from them...

then comes atomicmods.com... woowoowoo... can you say rip off on the c/f shafts? then the bearings.. $2-3 each? bah...then the wires.. he/she only sells seperatly only to make it look like it cost less.. typical marketing stragety...then the electronics... every signel things there is a rip off.. a board only with upgraded wires is $75.. what is this person smoking!??:confused: the fet upgrade $110 just for the board and it.. that mean $60 for the fet upgrade alone... you can just send it to mini-z tuners for a 2x2 fet job for only $45 shipped..i woudn't mind saving $15+, would you? then the "V1 Power Management Board" $50.00 for that ****..my ass... load of bull...then the replacement parts... $5 just for mirrors?!!? tsk..then $7 just for the body mounts... thats just outrageous..then $8 for a motor heat sink... wow... people these days...then did you see thier turrnkey cars... wtf? if you want to go fast buy a nitro or somthing with the amount of money of those... or at least a mini-z..

im hungry right now so ill stop.. but any other xmod site i see that has loads of rip off i will say somthing about them.. if you dont want any thing like this said about your site i suggest you lower your prices.. oh and in the near future, i will be making a list with the sites with the cheapest parts...

-Silent_NightR34 ...

thanks for the helpful hints... it was too funny though reading your post. i couldn't stop laughing. thanks

He's right it took my "S" Tune 1 month to get here when i finally got it installed my Supra with an S2 whooped its ass, and wtf a FWD driveshaft? WTF was this guy thinkin?

yeah many pple who associate with XMods are n00bs and can be ripped off and never know about it.
thats how life works and it will stay that way.
oh BTW http://bnbmodels.proboards34.com/index.cgi.
"CUSTOM VINYLS"
for $150!!!
yeah its the best high quality stuff u can get no whereelse!!!
go and get ripped off n00bs!!!
yeah j/k.
they still do sell custom vinyls though.
i dont know their princing.
but its probally gonna be some reat works worth the money... heh


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OMGosh i was just getting ready to buy some flame vinyls from them i was gonna pay $30 wow thanx man!

if u want to get lithiums... u can get good 3.6v 1.3Ah lithiums from
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/produc...oducts_id=4396
for 5.50 dollars US
and u can download schematics for a charger and get all the component at RS from.
http://shdesigns.org/lionchg.html

they dont even have them made yet..
let alone pricing.
and its worth it man...

The problem with those is that shipping is so much more, and overcomes the price saved by buying them there. Go to http://www.slavin4u.com/lithium.html . If you do buy, put "viperdout" in the notes section in paypal. Shipping is under 3 bucks, and the cells are 7.95 apiece.

Agreed
 

I would have to agree...some of the prices are quite outrageous for what you get. AtomicMods may charge a bit more, but you'll get the items in about 2-3 days...XModSpeed is cheaper, but be prepared to wait about 3-4 weeks for your order.

I bought some Deans connectors for $1.40 (2 connects, heatshrink), and some 18 guage wire and made my own wiring harnesses. It was very easy and didn't cost $8.95!

But, basically, it is Economics - supply and demand. XMODS are hot right now, and everyone wants parts...people attempt to upgrade things themselves and end up frying their boards. Then you have to buy another board, right? Where do you get it? People will pay a lot for some things, just because they don't want to buy another car.

There are suckers out there; don't be one of them!

xmods are hot right now? i think that there are too many gullable adults who let their kids buy that crap. and since the morons dont want to learn how to solder and spend the money for the equipment the first time. people dont understand that by spending a lot of money now they can save twice as much with what they can do with what they spent their money on.

Thanks for the help but i need to by the electronics for my xmod can any one help me out

electronics
 

You can order it from RS...the part # is somewhere in here...it is called the PCB RECEIVER ASSY or something like that. It costs like $9.49, but supposedly is on 2-3 weeks back order from the shack.;)

WHOA... Do people actually buy new motors because the wires come undone?? Or they'd probably take it to da' shaq (cough* loser* cough*) and ask them to fix it - they'll say they can't but they CAN sell you the Stage 2 motor upgrade set and the body kit the car needs to run!!!!!!!! (<---------WTF is up with that)

yo thanks rssjib you really helped me out but i cant find the part# can you help me out

Go to Cj's xmod FAQ in the xmods section, scroll to the bottom of the first post, click the link, and look for the pcb assembly. It doesn't matter, because if you call up the shack and tell them it's a pcb reciever assembly from an xmod, they'll send it to you.

ok thanks thats wut i did and orderd 2 pcb assemblies cuz i want to experiment with one thanks i also wanted to ask if any one orderd on from radio shack and if it come assembeled or do you have to do some soldering cuz if yes i have to go back and by some soldering wire the one i have is to thick

Well, yeah, you need to to attach the new recevier board to the old ESC, or you can attach the servo and batt packs to the new ESC/reciever board.

I ordered a couple of the PCBs myself, and they were in stock. Should get them in a couple of days. You gotta have extra boards around! I am pretty good at soldering, but I like to have a backup.

I am glad you found them, clownn.

thanks for helping me out guys they said it should come in 7-10 days to bad the dont have next day shipping LOL:p

xmodspeed nos thingy isent 4000 uf, its ofer 50,000!!! u cant buy caps that size that high of uf anywhere! he gets em from a special place or sumthin!

skate, no offence, but i got a few caps both that size and larger.. you just gotta know where to look. but so far i have not found any measurable difference with or without them

now with that said. I don't mean to flame here, but before you go and get all bent out of shape about services that people offer i would like to let you know about my situation, and thoughts on the subject. a few years ago I was in an accident that almost took my life. even today I have a hard time controling fine motor processes. it is a very difficult task for me to even solder a motor wire on mostdays. I do not trust myself with something as delicate as a fet. so far i have been paying a friend to do solder work for me, when I cannot steady myslef enough to do it. to me the services of soldering are worth my money. second. I do not have time to go out set up the connections test test and retest products. it's just not worht it monitarily. so I am willing to PAY someone who is willing to do the work for thier work. welcome to the buisness world.. If you think your paying only for product your wrong. your paying the person who makes that product. your paying the company that brings that product to you. your paying the place that sells the product and the guy who sells you that product. I for one would rather pay a little extra for someone I know has a good product and takes pride in thier product, then somebody who could give a rip less. Lastly on atomic mods prices for stock parts. I remember a time when even ordering the parts from RS did not garentee that you would be able to get them. I remember several members of several boards asking for a good reliable souce for parts. somebody came to the call. he charges more because he tests every part first. he also buys a WHOLE car and dissasembles it. not just the parts from RS. so now I ask you, how much are you willing to pay him to test a product then dissasemble it, package it up and ship it to you? trust me RS doesn't test it before it goes out. they only spot test.. for every 100 pieces they make they might only test 1. gee now for some extra piece of mind it doesn't seem that bad.

lastley I know some of you are going to say that i am atomic mods little puppet. trust me your wrong. I have never met the owner of atomicmods, even though he supports the board i admin, I am not paid by him, or reimbursed for services for him. he is his own person and i am my own as well. so lets just kick that little thought out of your head.

Cy is right - AtomicMods delivers on his promises. It's not hard to believe - ask anyone who posts here. Everybody has used him at least once, and no complaints. Robert Byrd does it the right way: you order, you pay, and he mails it to you...right away...and you receive it quickly. I ordered some stuff to save a buck or two from xmodspeed, and I am still waiting. I ordered it on June 14th. I received an email from them saying 2-3 weeks more. At least they are keeping me informed, but I have no parts yet. I only order 2 upgrade wiring kits, and two heatsinks.

I could have ordered from AtomicMods, paid maybe $8 more, and had my parts in 3 days! Hmmmm...I will not make that mistake again. You live and learn I guess...that's all I have to say about that.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Rob's customer service is second to none. Yes, he does charge more than some, but you WILL get your stuff on time with him, unlike xmodspeed.

I will agree that a $350 is over the top but for the fastest xmod that you can get pre assembeled, and time is money Rob puts a lot of work in to all of the products he puts out there and probably is the best in the business. I mean hell people pay $500 for a brake job that could probably be done for less than $100. his parts, his time, his bottom line. So just because you wouldnt pay it doesnt give you the right to bash anyone who would. GET A LIFE MAN.

WOW... ERRR... No comment? I mean wow such nit-picky people around here... If it's that bad why don't all you adults just quit playing with them or upgrade your car for the cheapest price and just shut up about it... Sheesh... I'll say this once more... Adults These Days...:rolleyes:

Yet again I would like to make another comment... I believe that most people are willing to pay extra for parts that people may say are better or upgraded... I for one have fallen into wanting a R-Tune motor for my Supra... I just think that if newbies wanna pay more for a product they have to wait less time on and have a better gaurentee that it will make it there in a week instead of a month let them make that desicion for themselves... I know this was to inform newbies about the problems and all of being ripped off... But still you really don't have the privelages to rag on someone else's sites and things just because it is overpriced or not really nessicary... Also some should be smart enough to shop around instead of buying the first thing they look up... I mean seriously there are hundreds of Xmod sites out there and they should just searce but, some are just to rich and lazy to do that and thats why they get ripped off... For not shopping around...Thats up to the consumer and there decisions... Just my state of mind about dumb problems that you all fight about...

HAHAHAAHhahahahahahah man u guys are the WORST!

IF a newbie wants to get ripped off by buying some of that stuff then LET THEM its not your money and just because u dont like how somethings are priced doesnt mean u have to rip on them

I ordered some stuff from xmodspeed on JUNE 14!!! And I am still waiting.........and waiting................and waiting..............
I have emailed them twice without any response. Anyone else having this issue??????

I have ordered three or four times from Rob and have gotten the products in about 3 days. Oh well, hopefully, my order will show up soon.

Does it realy matter how long a product takes to get to you? Because if the are offereing Low prices and you know they are good then is it worth waiting for? i would glady wait a month for a new motor.

Consider this:

You see a top of the line motor for your car.
You know and trust the brand.
Its a Very low price.
You know it takes a long time to ship and get to you.

Would you get it any way?

Yes, if it was a name brand I knew and trusted. Then yes. I just don't know why these guys fight over it all can someone please explain the reason of all this to me? Either I'm dumb or this fighting makes no sence to anyone and is useless...:rolleyes:

And you will be waiting for quite a lot longer. I'd say you'll be waiting until you die, since Xmod Speed just closed.

Ah yes, I know...
Oh well, $31 down the tube...probably would have spent it on beer anyway.

I wonder if there is any recourse for the bastards at xmodspeed?

I also wonder how many others got screwed. The website says to look for their stuff on ebay as they are selling it. WTF?? What about sending it to the folks that bought it. Jeez...

Yeah thats a damn good point... I can believe they closed and so did www.customxmodsparts.com to... I wanted a custom kit from that dude... I hope he will email me back and still make me one... The design and quality was terrific...:( :( :(