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Bleek 01-03-2004 08:27 PM

'Idea' - High Flow Cool Air System
 
ok here's my cool air flow system theorem

I planned on molding a working roof scoop on top of my car

then buying the smallest labtop fan that exists and mount it under the roof scoop blowing cool air on the engine

keeping your engine cool but will require a higher voltage mod or
its own battery sadly :(

any comments or suggestions feel free

i gots tons of crazy ideas....this is just one

aperson 01-03-2004 08:31 PM

ive been thinking about that too but i was gonna use the front grilles instead. or put some slots in my hood and use one of the fans that go into a PCI space. (not actually plugs into the motherboard just to the power supply.)

ViperKid 01-03-2004 08:31 PM

sounds good..i looked at a little cpu fan a RS and it was almost $20...i couldn't believe it

aperson 01-03-2004 08:39 PM

fortunately i got mine for free. my aunt used to work at seimens in TN and we got a few free computers. when we were haveing the power outages we had some brown outs in central NY the one that was 5 yrs old got fried. oh well it got put out of its misery. damn Mechwarrior 3 wouldnt even play right on it.

Bleek 01-03-2004 08:41 PM

will it fit in an x-mod and can u give me some info on this fan i am trying to find a small one to buy now as i write this reply. can u give me like a serial number or anything about it?

newbitowner 01-03-2004 08:42 PM

smallest fan i found in RS was about 2" and wouldn't fit

aperson 01-03-2004 08:50 PM

sorry Bleek i dont have any info other than it was at Best Buy. but now that i think of it, it was too big to fit under the hood too. it might fit under the "cab" with a roof scoop and have it blow air over the motor sorry. or just do the roof scoop but without the fan. put the scoop on and mold an air canal that goes over the heat sink and put an exhaust port where the liscence plate goes.

EDIT: ohh i found some LED fans. what about them? oh yea found the fan too Antec Blower Fan and it def. wont fit. 4.5" x 3.6" x 0.85" little too big?

Bleek 01-03-2004 09:06 PM

sounds like a good idea but i was thinking more like a 1 inch diameter fan i once saw in an older laptop or a fan like these

http://www.coolerguys.com/productsli...categoryID=145

aperson 01-03-2004 09:16 PM

i have couple of fans that are about 2" and 3 1/4" . there 12v and can run off of 18v the 2" will work. it equates to 50mm. 80mm is 15mm to big. but either way the light kit will probably need to be removed.

Hairball 01-03-2004 09:48 PM

I'd love to rig a liquid-cooling system inside one :D

aperson 01-03-2004 09:55 PM

you'd either need a nitro engine running a water pump or have it pluged into the wall while driving it. or ive heard about a mat that charges cell phones without contacts. buy a lot of those to make a place to drive and you could have the electric pump running. :D

Bad Company 01-03-2004 10:10 PM

Bleek,
I have sent you an email concerning your signature. Could you please shorten it up a little bit, it's a little too long.

Thank you.

Bleek 01-04-2004 12:10 AM

sig ok or still too big?

Railside270 01-04-2004 12:26 AM

Why don't you use a bit motor and put a propeller on it. Or if you want an even smaller motor..use a digi-Q. You can use the rechargeable batt and charge it every time you run the car or you can use a different source of power...i.e Light kit?

Bleek 01-04-2004 12:32 AM

god idea i tried that but to run power to those motor i have to solder wires to it too small and tough

Bad Company 01-04-2004 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bleek
sig ok or still too big?
That's ok, but don't go any bigger. Thank you.

cyrc 01-04-2004 01:29 AM

i would rather have a fan sucking the heat off of the motor my dad builds computers so i know how fans work and it would be better

aperson 01-05-2004 09:39 AM

ok sucking heat is good what about blowing cool air over the motor/heatsink to an exhaust port in the rear?

tavisjohn 01-05-2004 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cyrc
i would rather have a fan sucking the heat off of the motor my dad builds computers so i know how fans work and it would be better
THe only problem is then you would have another motor draining the power. It would work better (Sense the car is already going forward) if you were to have a scoop in the front, and an exause opening in the back. Then fresh air would be scooped in the front and hot air would flow out the back. However the car is soo small I doubt that either cooling method would make any difference. The heatsink does the best that canbe done, considering the limited ammount of room and power available.

TypeZer0 01-05-2004 12:52 PM

use those 40 mm fans, they're about an inch and a half each side but they produce little wind and the best i've seen of this size moves like 10 cfm whihc is like a very very light breeze. i suggest use the roof scoop to channel air down to the heatsink and out the back somewhere so that as the car speeds up air rushes in, cools the heatsink, and leaves

tavisjohn 01-05-2004 01:08 PM

The only place I see that can handle a fan is if you replace the hood with a fan. But that would look kinda silly. :)

theMonster 01-05-2004 01:36 PM

ok, sure but....
 
This is nice and all, but what's the point? It'll make the car heavier, and as far as I know, it'll provide no performace boost because these motors don't get hot enough to fry themselves and don't turn faster if cooler. In a car, cold air makes the engine breath better and on a CPU, it'll run faster when cooler, but these motors are not processors or combustion chambers, so I don't see the point.

Bleek 01-05-2004 03:20 PM

cool engines do run faster because it takes longer for the the parts to warm up the warmer the parts the less performance you get. also thinking about it the hood scoop and tru exhaust out the back would be the best idea light weight and effective in junction with the heat sink thanx for all the feed back

tavisjohn 01-05-2004 03:50 PM

Yes you might gain a speed increast by adding a fan, but you also gain weight, and you also place a larger drain on the car's internal power system. On a car as small as an X-Mod the weight and power drain may more than offset the speed increase, so you could end up with a slower car in the end. If you were luckey you might break even, except for a shorter battery lifespan.

aperson 01-05-2004 05:47 PM

yes you're adding weight, youre gonna go slower but if someone wants to do this why not? it it'll make them feel better that their motors not gonna fry its worthit.

nrsjs 01-05-2004 06:28 PM

Just for the record, are any of these crazy ideas necessary? Has anybody had a problem with their xmod motor that was caused my heat?

Bleek 01-05-2004 06:34 PM

just CUT at all my ideas, o yeah thanx

aperson 01-05-2004 07:06 PM

so we got an insane man on the loose so what? as long as hes not killing anyone yet were fine.

and no one has had heat problems

W3rdSmyth 01-08-2004 08:10 PM

Bleeker I have one of the tiny fans you are talking about, that is about 1 inch by 1 inch square and I also have a tiny heat sink that it clips to.

FYI, the fan and heat sink are from a Pentium 1 CPU, and I believe it was the stock fan and heatsink. The fan has almost no weight to it at all because it's tiny and plastic, I'm sure it draws next to no power. So you might want to try searching for a heatsink and fan for a Pentium 1 CPU and see if you find what you need.

My thoughts about it though would be....doesn't the stage 2 motor have a heat sink that attaches to it? Well, why not clip the fan to the heat sink? You could use the Pentium 1 heat sink because it has more fins on it than the radio shack one does so it should actually cool better.

So, why not put a roof scoop on, backwards...use it as a vent...hook up the fan on top of the heat sink on top of the motor and set the fan so it sucks instead of blows, and it would act as a vent fan sucking heat out of the body of the car and expelling it out of the roof scoop. I have a digital camera if you need a picture of the fan or anything, but you probably knows what it looks like. The fan is maybe 1/4 inch tall, but I haven't measured it. There would be no problem mounting it in the xmod. on the heat sink, or inside attached to the roof of the car. It's that tiny.

aperson 01-08-2004 08:36 PM

no, a roof scoop on backwards looks to weird. if the car has a wing put the exhaust under the wing or behind the bumper

Bleek 01-08-2004 09:36 PM

please post a pic of the fan if you can...it would be greatly appreciated :)

Anx MAtrix 01-08-2004 09:48 PM

hole
 
i dont know if this will work on thes eof if anyone can but if u really wanted to couldn't u just cut a hole in the front windshield and maybe but the side windows, like they do in 1/10 nitro vechiles for cooling? just a idea

W3rdSmyth 01-09-2004 12:05 AM

Having it exit there would involve ducting the air flow to that point and it would make for a very tiny exhaust outlet, in addition to the fact that there would have to be a 90 degree bend which would reduce the effectiveness.

Putting a small duct inside, coming from the roof of the car down inside at an angle seems like it would not only give a larger duct with a larger outlet but also less turns inside.

I'm new to xmods, but I've been doing the PC modding thing for a long time so I tend to thing in a straight line. If the things I'm saying make no sense at all then you'll have to forgive me.

spitty12 01-09-2004 03:23 AM

These motors run hot, they are designed to do so. If you want good cooling cut a hole in the rear window over the motor, hot air rises so it will be able to escape and flow some air.
I cut the vents in my supra hood, side skirts and front air dam to increase air flow and give it a functional look. The rear portion of the cars is higher off the ground then the rest of the car so air can escape from under the car. Cut out the license plate if you want more flow from the back but there should be enough.

Fans would be a wast of time, money, space, energy and weight so don't bother.

Bleek, this is not a car engine, you will never notice any performance gain by cooling the motor but you may increase the longevity if you are running 5 or 6 cells.

Railside270 01-10-2004 01:15 AM

Here's a good way to cool the car:
Drive it ouside without the body! it only takes a couple of minutes or less to get the motor back to room temperature when driven on a cool winter day...or any day

purfishy 01-10-2004 04:31 PM

im with tavis and the monster.... thi smod wont do much, and might even make the car slower.

aperson 01-12-2004 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tavisjohn
The only place I see that can handle a fan is if you replace the hood with a fan. But that would look kinda silly. :)
i might have do actually do this. my car's been running awfully hot lately. but hey i dont care as long as the thing works.

cyrc 04-03-2004 04:19 PM

you would be better off cutting out the back window and putting the fan on the heatsink and turing it so it sucks air of the heat sink and ittll flly out the back window

AcuraPerformanc 08-03-2004 11:18 PM

How about Dry ice? And if so Does any one know were to get it?

Jtskty 08-04-2004 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AcuraPerformanc
How about Dry ice? And if so Does any one know were to get it?

Your kidding right?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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