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stl2ner 11-23-2003 12:38 AM

has any one tried the spin brush motor mod?
 
Just wondering if anyone here has tried it, I saw it on another board, I have two of these motors sitting around and was thinking about giving it a try.

dEmOnRaCeR 11-23-2003 12:46 AM

I have no clue wut this mod is can u explain or give a link.

stl2ner 11-23-2003 01:07 AM

http://www.xmodworld.com/modules.php...viewtopic&t=93

rallger 11-23-2003 02:00 AM

looks nice

waht kind of stuff would u need in relation to pinion pullers/pinions etc

sokalxballa 11-23-2003 07:45 PM

hmmmmz, I got a billion motors laying around I took out of old broken toys.... I'm going to need a testmod. Does the gear on the spin brush fit right into the xmods gear or do I need to swap?

stl2ner 11-23-2003 08:48 PM

you need to either buy a pinion or pull a pinion from an xmod motor.

xmodsupra 11-23-2003 10:13 PM

I just got my supra today, in fact i just got it together an hour ago, i am going to pick up the 5th cell for the "super charger" and the brush tomorrow, sounds AWSOME.

jaubery 11-23-2003 10:13 PM

I tried the ff-180 or spin brush motor. The mod requires you to shim the rear motor mounts. You can't use the front mount at all. The motor also requires capacitors to be soldered onto it.

As far as performance goes I had dissapointing results. It has good acceleration, but the motor has no top end. A stage 2 drag is faster.

jaubery

xmodsupra 11-23-2003 11:06 PM

thats why u need to change the gear to 9 or 11

stl2ner 11-24-2003 12:17 AM

I have yet to insall the motor, cause I don't have a pinion puller, but the motors I have fit perfectly without any mods other than soldering on the connections and adding the correct pinion gear. are you sure you have the right motor?

xmodsupra 11-24-2003 07:07 AM

picking up paint, the SB motor, and the fifth cell tonight, o yes......

jaubery 11-24-2003 08:57 AM

xmodssupra,

I tried a 13 tooth pinion gear. The top speed was still no better than a stage 2 drag motor.

jaubery 11-24-2003 09:02 AM

stl2ner,

I have the right motor. The model number is ff-180sh-22100. It does not fit with the front mount on. Try putting the motor in without the pinion gear on for a test fit. You don't need a pinion puller to do the mod. Buy a mini-z pinion and grind it down a little.

major skyline 11-24-2003 11:22 AM

i did it, i used a Crest Spin-brush Pro. the motor fit perfectly. also u dont need a pinion puller, just use a propane torch to heat up the pinion. the brass will expand faster than the steel. then just use a pair of pliars to pull it off. i took the caps, pinion, and gear off of the blue stage 2. for the soldering just put alot of flux on the can an it works just fine. i used blue gear and the results were awesome just as much torque as the white stage 2 and just as topend as the yellow. very happy with it.

sokalxballa 11-24-2003 12:40 PM

As an extended experiment I wet out and bought Three different types of spinbrushes. I'm taking one for the team. I got the reach, The cologate and the Crest pro. I got the first to at Big lot for 3&4 dollars. I am opening them up in a minute, I'm going to take pics and make reports during the week as I test the size (will it fit?) and some other data.

sokalxballa 11-24-2003 01:03 PM

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It's offical The only motor that will fit is the spinbrush motor I got the pro not sure if that makes a difference.

stl2ner 11-24-2003 01:03 PM

both motors I have, one is a spin brush pro, the other a reg, spin brush fit perfect, they are the exact same size as the stock motor.

sokalxballa 11-24-2003 01:04 PM

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Motors

stl2ner 11-24-2003 01:05 PM

how do i take the cap off? oh a picture would be great, I am sort of new to modding rc motors, a little different than and actual cars motor :) thanks for any help.

sokalxballa 11-24-2003 01:05 PM

Does anyone know the RS past number for the capasitors used on the xmod motor?

sokalxballa 11-24-2003 01:08 PM

The spin bush is the easiest to open. Take a hammer and smash the battery case then peel the two sides off. The gear slides off with sissors. What cap are you talking about? From the xmod motor?

stl2ner 11-24-2003 01:20 PM

yeah from the xmod motor, I already have 2 spin brush motors waitng for a pinions, but I heard the caps were better from the xmod motor. so I am not sure how to take it apart, or exactly what it is :(

sokalxballa 11-24-2003 02:22 PM

Just desodder the caps from the xmod motor.

stl2ner 11-24-2003 04:23 PM

is the cap the black tube on the outside of the motor? with the resistor that is attached to the battery clips???

stl2ner 11-24-2003 05:18 PM

nevermind i'm an idiot, i know what it is now.

does anyone know if this pnion would work with the blue gear?

sokalxballa 11-24-2003 08:39 PM

what pinion?

stl2ner 11-24-2003 10:27 PM

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXATR7&P=7

sorry thought i added the link to my earlier post.

sokalxballa 11-24-2003 10:29 PM

Bro it's mad easy to figure that out just look at what is with the 12 tooth setup on the RS motor

ejaf 11-25-2003 08:03 AM

German Engineering???
 
Just wondering...pulled out my Spin Brush last night (marked on the end cap with "Action"...think it is the right one), has anyone pulled apart a Braun toothbrush?

That way we may be able to use that good ol' German engineering. :D

Eric

sokalxballa 11-25-2003 08:06 AM

I just did Colgate, Reach and Crest. onlr 1 of out of three will fit I'm guessing the braun has a long circle motor like the reach.

stl2ner 11-25-2003 09:48 AM

not sure what you meant in your response, since there is no 12 tooth in the rs motors only an 11, I am hoping that the twelve tooth will fit with the 11 tooth gear, I guess when I get it next week i will find out.


oh I found another motor that will fit also, it is from a 10 dollar cybersonic tooth brush, i forget the brand name on the motor I will post it later, I want to do comparison runs with the spin brush, spinbrush pro, and cyber sonic motor, hopefully by next week i will have it all figured out.

sokalxballa 11-25-2003 09:55 AM

Oh there is no 12 tooth? that's not good, I guess I need to go read up on gears ratios I havn't looked into gearing since seventh grade. Hopefully they will fit. I will be doing intensive research as well so maybe we can work closely. I'm just waiting to buy another supra and a stage 2. MY check needs to come. The boss might give me some free ones too.

xmodsupra 11-25-2003 11:09 AM

cant wait to get my spinbrush pro, on lunch break hehe. Need my fifth cell still no time to go get it.

sokalxballa 11-25-2003 11:28 AM

I can't wait to buy my new Supra. I might get it this week. The motor should be complete buy then I hope. I just need the compnets and the connector.


I almost forgot to mention this, I came up with a sick idea. At RS we seel this $6.99(on sale) Infred red micro racer. I might use parts from it to some how make the Xmod have an extra funtion possibly ESN.

xmodsupra 11-25-2003 11:46 AM

my best friend works at RS, was thinking the same thing.

xmodsupra 11-25-2003 09:49 PM

how does this brush come apart.....

sokalxballa 11-25-2003 10:26 PM

HAMMER :)

xmodsupra 11-25-2003 10:49 PM

yea i was trying to salvage the casing but i threw that out the window, and have moved on to fighting with the damn xmod screws, i swear they are such a paint in the rear to remove.

Can i use the can from the xmod engine to avoid sokdering or do i need to use everything from the new motor.

sokalxballa 11-25-2003 10:51 PM

hmmm, never thought about it, I suppose you could, if it works let me know I'll do that to mine if it does. Damn it'll be a sleeper.

sokalxballa 11-25-2003 10:56 PM

12 tooth
 
Here's the gearing situation.... A 12 tooth will work depending on it's diameter. Diameter is everything. I'd say if you can find a 48 tooth or 52 tooth gear to fit with it you'd have a sick top end machine, accel would be kinda weak but it'd win races.


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