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MicroSpeed 10-20-2003 04:16 PM

XMod Drifting/Sliding/Spinning out
 
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Okay, before I go into detail keep in mind that my basement floor is:

-50% linolium
-47% dust
-3% bugs/spiders/etc.


My course is running circles around two support poles (metal), I go about half to three/fourths throttle down the sraightaway, then hit the throttle near the turn to kick the back end out when I reach the the pole. Lets hear your drifting set-ups...

Silent_NightR34 10-20-2003 04:18 PM

me...i got a skyline (so long wheebase) with 4-wheel drive just tape the tires up...then all i do is point and DRIFT!!:D

the farthest i 've ever got was about 6 feet!:)

XMODADDICT 10-20-2003 04:56 PM

my attempts at drifting end up w/ rsx upside down on floor or rolling over... my AWD doesn't help at all with traction... the guy at RS said my problem is weight distribution shifting so i plan on using stiffer springs in the front.... from red to yellow

duey 10-20-2003 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silent_NightR34
me...i got a skyline (so long wheebase) with 4-wheel drive just tape the tires up...then all i do is point and DRIFT!!:D

the farthest i 've ever got was about 6 feet!:)

what kind of tape are you using??

TypeZer0 10-20-2003 08:06 PM

you could probably use scotch tape or masking tape. i wouldn't suggest using electrical tape cuz it gets icky when u take it off

Silent_NightR34 10-20-2003 08:47 PM

yup..i was using the "magic" (:rolleyes:) scotch tape...it works good but you need to cut the tape down the center for it to fit properly..comes off easy with no residue left behind:)

MicroSpeed 10-20-2003 08:51 PM

wouldn't that just do constant donuts, not drifting? Or does the tape have enough grip to keep it from spinning out?

Silent_NightR34 10-20-2003 08:59 PM

yeah but i have 4-wheel drive...(like subaru "the beauty of all wheel drive":p )

Murcielago659 10-20-2003 09:01 PM

If you want to drift you really need soft springs in the front and stiff springs in the rear. You can also put harder tires in the rear and softer ones in the front.

I can drift my near-stock skyline pretty well. All I have is the stage 2 drift motor and bearings and it drifts with no problems.

MicroSpeed 10-20-2003 09:03 PM

Yeah, I guess with 4WD you can do burnouts with all tires at once without spinning out as long as the power is equaly distibuted to all 4 wheels. 1 question, what should I get first:
-AWD kit
-S2 motor upgrade.

I'm down to about 20 bucks and both of those are ~$15 so I was wondering which to get first. I'll be able to get them both this weekend, when I get my allowance renewal ($22).

Murcielago659 10-20-2003 09:05 PM

Wait till the weekend and get both.

Micro S2000 10-20-2003 09:07 PM

drifting is pretty easy. i can do it 2 ways. what i do for one way is i go hard into a turn and i hit opposite turn all the way and throw it back real quick. the back end looses traction and does a nice 180 drift.

another way to pull off allmost the same move, i think its a little easier, is when going into the turn i hit the brakes while i start the turn. you just have to tap it and get back on it quick and the back end again looses grip and pulls a 180. with this move if you pull it off right you can get 90 degree turns but real hard the car wants to spin more.

this is all on a stock skyline, with 4.5 degree toe in and hard shocks all around

Silent_NightR34 10-20-2003 09:08 PM

yeah i say both...but im doing 6ft long drift with only 4-wheel drive and everything else stock!

_revhards13 10-20-2003 09:55 PM

Not sure how you do it in a xmod because i dont have mine yet (coming this week yellow skyline w/ stage 2 engine mod's and light kit got for 60 bucks off ebay)
but in my 240 the best thing for me to do is start into a turn really hard at high speeds and just let all the way off the throttle if it doesnt break i hit the ebrake. unfortunatly i dont think you can adjust the braking of a xmod... but if you just tape up the rear wheels and run and let it off it will start spinning, then you throtttle all the way up and do a power out drift, then countersteer, and ahve a buddy take a the most breath taking pic youll ever see in your life...

_revhards13 10-20-2003 09:57 PM

Oh yea, when you let off the throttle the rear should jsut completly slide out... you may have to tap the brakes, and it will slide way out but its not easy. most fun way to drift tho. there is also the power drift, what you do in that one is come up to the turn and start slowing down then as you go into it just punch it and fly out spinning with counter steer...

Silent_NightR34 10-20-2003 09:58 PM

well when you tape the back tires up its uncontrollable even with 4-wheel drive..when you make the slightest trnes it spins out..:(

TypeZer0 10-20-2003 10:00 PM

the "brake" funciton in the xmod isn't really brakes, it simply wont send any juice to the motor at all so what you think is "braking" is really the friction of all the drivetrain pieces slowing it down (even with the bearings) and engine braking. as the car coasts, it still turns teh gears to the motor and the motor has enough internal friction to slow the car down quite a bit

Micro S2000 10-20-2003 10:12 PM

the drifting with tires i dont consider real drifting. drifting is supposed to be a racing move to improve your speed and 6ft drifts arent going to do that. also you lose handling in the rest of the track

_revhards13 10-20-2003 11:00 PM

dude, thats so not true, when is he going to go to a race track to race a cheap little xmod, drifting is purly for fun. and nothing else, if your drifting at a race there is more a chance of oyu going out of control than there is you will gain any time at all on your oponents, so drifting with xmods is just fun IMO

Micro S2000 10-20-2003 11:04 PM

i heard sessiz say he took his xmod to the track and took on a couple of minizs. and tape just seems like cheating to me

_revhards13 10-20-2003 11:31 PM

tape? if you cant get it to drift withouht tape thats a problem, and it means you suck at drifting and shoulndt be donig it anyways, but then again, you have to learn somehow, just like in a real car. i started drifting in a corrolla, and now im drving a sr20det powerd s13... it always starts somwhere

sessiz10 10-21-2003 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Micro S2000
i heard sessiz say he took his xmod to the track and took on a couple of minizs. and tape just seems like cheating to me
Oh fun to be had at mini z tracks with an xmod.:D

bobcat 10-21-2003 01:47 AM

drifting in a real car is entirely different from drifting a tiny rc car. at that small size the turns happen a lot faster than in a real car. if you're using 2wd in a 1/28 scale car you don't really have the reflexes to adjust your throttle and steering to compensate.

the best way to have nice FUN drifts with an xmod is to have awd and a surface that allows the tires to break loose easily. whether you get that by taping the wheels or running on slick surface is up to you.

MicroSpeed 10-21-2003 05:59 AM

I drift when I get my tires all dusty-All I have to do is get some speed up and then quickly tap the brakes,tap the steering wheel in the direction I want to drift in, and then hit the throttle before the rest of the car comes back around and I always do perfect drifts.

TypeZer0 10-21-2003 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by MicroSpeed
...then quickly tap the brakes...
oh, you mean the zero throttle function designed to keep your gears from getting ripped cuz of a sudden change in direction? :D sorry, jus trying to educate ppl.

try this: hit the brakes on your car and hold the brakes then listen for any sounds going to the motor. there will be none. then put the car, while still holding the brakes, on a slight incline, it will start moving downhill cuz the "brakes" aren't doing anythign to hold teh car in place.

the only time i seen brakes in an RC car is in teh larger cars, usually the gas/nitro powered ones

bobcat 10-21-2003 09:19 AM

these cars do have breaks. as do most hobby grade ESCs. it isn't a mechanical brake, it's an electromagnetic drag on the motor but it slows the car and can lock the wheels up on loose surfaces.

Murcielago659 10-21-2003 01:02 PM

Yeah, mine has brakes. I can lock the rear wheels pretty easily in mine.

Silent_NightR34 10-21-2003 05:45 PM

S2000...im not trying to drift on a track...im just drifting around corners of my house..and how is using tape cheating??drifting slows you down in a race not help you take the turns faster..._revhards13...drifting is for fun...its quite hard to drift with brand new tires on a clean surface with 4-wheel drive and a stock motor...i can do little drifts but my big drifts come when i have tape on my tires...

TypeZer0 10-21-2003 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Murcielago659
Yeah, mine has brakes. I can lock the rear wheels pretty easily in mine.
really?? sumthing must be wrong wtih mine.... does it hold the wheel so long as you hold the brake?



*Edit*
ok, did a lil testing and yeah, i do notice a bit of a braking effect but it's quite weak on mine. how is it supposed to work? does it put a tiny bit of reverse throttle, just enough to stop by not enough to go in reverse?

Murcielago659 10-21-2003 06:24 PM

It actually creates a strong magnetic field that stops the armature.

Micro S2000 10-21-2003 06:30 PM

on the brakes if you just push the trigger forward it activates them. when you push again it goes reverse.

this is for you edit

Silent_NightR34 10-21-2003 06:34 PM

kinda obvious eh?;)

TypeZer0 10-21-2003 06:45 PM

well i kno about the push twice to get in reverse, but i just thoguht it was zero throttle to save the gears from getting stripped. i've only driven my car on carpet so i can't really tell if the brakes were stopping it or not cuz either way, it slowed down pretty quickly

Micro S2000 10-21-2003 07:01 PM

from his edit it seemed he wasnt sure what was going on

Silent_NightR34 10-21-2003 07:10 PM

yea lol...

TypeZer0 10-21-2003 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Micro S2000
from his edit it seemed he wasnt sure what was going on
who, me?

Silent_NightR34 10-21-2003 08:00 PM

yea....dont worry about it tho...

aperson 10-21-2003 08:01 PM

depending on which way you want to drift you should distribute the weight.
Right- left side forward w/ right side back
Left - right side forward w/ left side back
hope this helps

Silent_NightR34 10-21-2003 08:09 PM

yeah but this isn't nascar.....real racers drift both left AND right:p ...i just made that up:)

itsalllies 10-21-2003 09:44 PM

I was playing gt3 advance drifting and thought when I get my xmod I will build a runner for for the ball from a mouse if the whights is good and when you turn the ball will go to the outside and kick the tall but is there room for a rectange 3/4th to an inch under the trunk?:D


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