Reason why most people choose civics becuz 1 they are cheap and 2 they are lightweight. Ive seen some real ****ty civics that have been wasted on looks but Ive seen some hella fast civics beat out Vipers,Supras, and Eclipses. Do not underestimate the Civic.

civics suck straight out but i agree with Xero GTr that people buy them cuz there cheap and there light weight but even with souping up your civic it still sucks. mainly the aerodynamics of the car are crap the design is horrible. and if you want a light weight car go get a lotus elise

...and the reason why some people dont buy nice cars to begin with is because they like the fun in tuning it. Whats the point in having a fast car when its already fully tuned? Also they like the looks on people's faces when they see their civic beat out there (quote"nice"unquote) cars.

first a lotus elise isnt "fully tuned" its just a really nice car with great aerodynamics and really lightweight. its lighter than a civic. all you need to do is put a integera grs engine in it and it will crush a "tuned" civic

I love the civics and have owned an 85, and a 91 which was a four door. But I can't stand seeing some half assed primered body kit on a civic w/ intake and exhaust only. Go before show! I don't like the older accords simply because there heavy, and obtuse. But the new one boasts like 240 Hp which I'm sure is at the fly wheel. I really want a Del Sol w/ targa top in Samba Green pearl. Love the CRX 88-91, and the element. That thing just looks cool on the road. The Prelude is a given, as is the S2000, and NSX. I really like the basic Hondas because they are reliable good on gas, fun, and light weight. And most of all they are really easy to modify, and find parts for. Remember if any of us had the cash we would'nt be so excited about Civics, and Preludes. Honda is a jumping off point for most of us in this great petrolium fed obsession. One day when some of us are successfull, and better off financially we'll be chasing after more expensive dreams, with Hondas as our strictly race cars, with interiors ripped out for weight reduction, and other craziness we would never have on our daily drivers.;)

What about the Mazda Miata. That's not fully tuned and it's also lighter than the Civic. And it'll beat out any Civic that's had so much money put into it that it's worth as much as the Miata.

ok a lotus is not as expensive as you all think it is.

the mazda miata is a really nice car and it could be better it you put in a more powerful engine. then its handling is like a porshe i hear

lightweight.. humm stock my nissan with the sr20de engine is only 100 pounds heavier than a civic coupe (2-dr.) but basically the same as the 4 door. its got all 140hp kickin.. and will kick any stock civic... how do i know. ive been to the track!! and i beat the civic Si, in the quater by 2 tenths. of a second.. if i were to slap the turbo on it and kick out 350hp (with the other usual mods)mmmm that would be fun.

now im not saying that the hondas are bad. but if you have to drop a new engine in your car to make it go faster, why not buy the car with the engine in it already. you rice racers drive me nuts. you slap a intake on your car and think your invincible.

I fully respect tuning of cars. but if your going to do it do it wright and respect what other people do and drive. your opinion of cars is not the only one. now back to the discussion about bits. this is not a forum for comparing our imports.. but our bits.

ok im looking for a smart roadster. they look so cool. they not ricy or anything like that.

heres a pic

how do i change the size of my pic? any one?

Hey! I said go before show did'nt I? I said I hate half-assed body kit/intake/exhaust only did'nt I? And I'm still called a ricer?!:mad: So if I like Honda done right I'm a ricer? OK call me white rice! The Miata, well, I only see one kind of man on the road in these. Lisping along. Oh yeah If you buy the right Honda you don't have to switch out the motor. Geez! You guys think every Honda comes with a crappy motor! If you know anything about Honda, then you know what to buy! The ricers are the ones getting ripped off with d15's.

Take your pic to paint and image stretch resize.

I agree that u should buy a nice car to begin with... Seriously whats the point of getting a 5,000 dollar car and spending way above the original price just for things like spoilers and whatsoever, you could get a mustang or sumtin that'll beat any civic for like 30,000 (all prices in CAD) Ohh and mustangs look way better

sorry if i insulted you so about the hondas i parenst have one and i think its great. i mean you can stuff 10 illegal imigrants in it!!!!! JK while not all hondas have crap motors in them the better part of them do. and i do look at the cars and everything b4 i saw stuff like that