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RealTracks 09-25-2009 11:34 PM

I think a lot depends on your space available and how many cars you anticipate on your track at one time. For the home racer who usually practices by himself and does not have a lot a space, a narrow track will allow a longer more chalenging course with more turns. A wider shorter course with less turns in the same size space can become boring quickly. I have 16", 24", and now a prototype 32" wide track and I find myself always going back to the 16" wide track for the dNaNo. The dNaNo just looks and feels right on it. It is challenging when you are practicing by yourself and it really hones your skills. When I put the dNaNo on the 24" wide track the car looks lost on it. With the wide track width compared to the small size of the dNaNo, the racing line has a unatural feel to it where you seem to be spending a lot of time driving laterial on the track. Although it is difficult to get a clean pass on the 16" track. Just my experience

Lower number = softer compound, more traction
Higher number = harder compoud, less traction

nalves 09-26-2009 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealTracks (Post 207442)
Lower number = softer compound, more traction
Higher number = harder compoud, less traction

Thank you!
Nuno Miguel Alves

nitrojunkie 09-26-2009 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nalves (Post 207441)
The higher the number the more grip they have? Or it is the opposite? I just don't understand the ranking of the numbers...

Thanks Q'on,
nuno

The lower the number the stickier the tire is.I have the Lambo Murcielago and am running the stock 10 rears and Atomic 35's on the front. I am running on the HT USA carpet track and the 35's make the car really twitchy at first.I tend to be a slower learner at driving it took a couple of battery packs to get used to them but they are great tires.It also may have to do with the diff setup you have also.You need some slip to help with power transfer and to help settle the rear end down.I still have a little work to do on my Kyosho ball diff but it is real close.For rear hop try adding a piece of foam between the chasis and rear pod it will act as a shock of sorts and help dampen the rears tendancy to hop use airplane radio box foam.

nalves 09-26-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrojunkie (Post 207446)
It also may have to do with the diff setup you have also.You need some slip to help with power transfer and to help settle the rear end down.I still have a little work to do on my Kyosho ball diff but it is real close.

Are you using the shims that comes with the Kyosho Ball Diff? Or anything different?

Thanks
Nuno

nalves 09-26-2009 09:13 AM

Well,

Last night I flip the track and ran 3 packs on the grip side. As RCP Track already told with this side up I'll have to clean it less often...I can not see the dirt, and that's good. And i have to say that the body was less dirtier. Regarding the performance, because of my poor skills, i didn't notice anything special. Maybe i ran more in the track and less in the rails ;-)

One thing is for sure, this thing gives me the same pleasure as the 1/10 Electric Touring that i ran during the last year in Portugal. And in my living room!

Thanks
Nuno

arch2b 09-26-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealTracks (Post 207442)
I think a lot depends on your space available and how many cars you anticipate on your track at one time. For the home racer who usually practices by himself and does not have a lot a space, a narrow track will allow a longer more chalenging course with more turns. A wider shorter course with less turns in the same size space can become boring quickly. I have 16", 24", and now a prototype 32" wide track and I find myself always going back to the 16" wide track for the dNaNo. The dNaNo just looks and feels right on it. It is challenging when you are practicing by yourself and it really hones your skills. When I put the dNaNo on the 24" wide track the car looks lost on it. With the wide track width compared to the small size of the dNaNo, the racing line has a unatural feel to it where you seem to be spending a lot of time driving laterial on the track. Although it is difficult to get a clean pass on the 16" track. Just my experience

Lower number = softer compound, more traction
Higher number = harder compoud, less traction

scale appearance wise, i agree completely. the 16" tiles are much more scale in apppearance. here you can see the difference with both a mini-z, dnano, 24" tile, 16" tile over a mini-96 section 3 tiles wide.
http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery.../IMG_11841.JPG
practical racing with more than 2 car, i suggest the 24" tile. you would have to be either very good or going very slow to race more than 2 car on the 16" tiles and do so cleanly. in my experience with my kids, that just doesn't happen. i need all 24" available when driving with my kids to avoid disasters.

the mini-96 is wider than the 16" rt tiles and thinner than the 24" rt tiles so it's a good balance of both scale and practicality.

that being said, the painted lanes do add that special scale appearance that some look for in a home track. just wish side rails were available.

if you do race frequently on your mini-96 and with others, i think you could benefit wit the use of the wide inside turn kits and maybe the expansion pack. i felt both were worthwhile purchases.
http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery.../IMG_11791.JPG

i also bought the rail liners that were technically made for the 50cm rcp tiles however rcp has posted instructions on how to use them with the 30cm tiles however i just have not found the time to install them. i'm tempted to donate them to our club track (50cm) for use with club racing.

Marcro 09-26-2009 12:13 PM

Hey there arch. How do you like the Real Tracks tracks? What tires are you using for both Z's and D's?

I've sold my Mini96 a while ago and would like to get another track some time soon. I've been looking at the RealTracks cause they seem like they would be more durable when you have pet's around, plus the surface look's easier to clean. Can you race the Mini-Z on that surface as well? I'd like it to be universal for the two cars.

It look's like the 24" is perfect for Z's and the 16 is ideal for Dnano's. I some how imagine the surface of Real Tracks to be similar to slot-car tracks?

arch2b 09-26-2009 12:28 PM

i like the realtracks products i've tried so far. the experience is very different from rcp. for mini-z, rcp tire setups work well. all i have are stock dnano tires and they are to hard to keep up speed on realtracks tiles.

yes, they would be less susceptible to pet damage. both are easy to clean. vaccuum or wet swiffer sweeper, both are easy. yes, per above, you can race both.

ideal is a subject opinion which i've discussed below/above, depending on how your post lineage is set. the surface is nicely textured which works well. i don't own any slot cars/tracks so i can no compare them. be aware that as the tiles are more rigid, you will need a smoother floor surface as the tiles are less forgiving than rcp tiles. as you can see i have a tiled floor and it did not cause any problems.

if i could improve realtracks in anyway, i would add side rails. it's a personal preference really as some really like being able to run off the track.

Marcro 09-26-2009 12:39 PM

Didn't they originally make tracks with rails and went away from that for more realistic racing? I suppose if you wanted to do some scale modeling, the run-offs would be nice to have. But for flat out racing, I like the rails. My only issue with the rails on the Real-Tracks tracks would be seems they'd be harder to hit than RCP's soft rails. If I'm going to have rails, I'd want soft rails to hit and bounce off.
On three of my Dnano's, I currently have PN's 45 rear and 15 fronts. I wonder if those would be suitable for these tracks. I'm thinking one would want slicks?

arch2b 09-26-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcro (Post 207464)
Didn't they originally make tracks with rails and went away from that for more realistic racing? ...

that would be a good question for the realtracks vendor forum :)

pfcparts 09-26-2009 01:44 PM

j,

Been thinking about importing a K dnano track... I don't have
the luxury of time to drive to the nearest HT, or know if they
even have them yet... I'd much rather spend my weekend
cheering for the team or with family.

I'd love to be able to pick up a good track at toysrus during
holiday shopping since there are about 3-4 (15-30 min) near
where I live.

Any pics or pricing available?

Can you give us a good idea on when other than the
"holiday season" lol? :)

Do you plan on offering regular rcp set ups at toysrus too?

Sorry for the hijack nal lol.


parts

Marcro 09-26-2009 01:47 PM

I doubt regular RCP tracks would be sold at TRU, but I like the idea of the 1/40 scale sets being sold at said place.

arch2b 09-26-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfcparts (Post 207468)
j,

Been thinking about importing a K dnano track... I don't have
the luxury of time to drive to the nearest HT, or know if they
even have them yet... I'd much rather spend my weekend
cheering for the team or with family.

I'd love to be able to pick up a good track at toysrus during
holiday shopping since there are about 3-4 (15-30 min) near
where I live.

Any pics or pricing available?

Can you give us a good idea on when other than the
"holiday season" lol? :)

Do you plan on offering regular rcp set ups at toysrus too?

Sorry for the hijack nal lol.


parts

the kyosho dnano track sold in jpn is not the same track ht stores have.

lets save the new rcp track details for the rcp vendor forum :)

nalves 09-26-2009 02:12 PM

This morning i added more two packs to my curriculum. The chattering of the rear is s little bit annoying...must use foam, change tires and install the Kyosho Ball Diff (don't have the lube...).

My other White 911 GT3 Porsche is still without use (and the correspondent starter kit). My kids don't want to run the Dnano...now they want a micro plane...go figure.

Nuno Miguel Alves

nalves 09-26-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfcparts (Post 207468)
j,
Sorry for the hijack nal lol.

Hey, no problem, join the table!

Nuno


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