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hally
01-16-2003, 07:54 PM
Hello boys i think there are some who are interested in building their own little toys .
I think that TTTT virus started in the 80. with a few guys equipped a 30 t 1:87 scale truck with rc now the parts got so small that even a 1:87 smart is possible and it has some extras too i posted pictures of it in tiny? and now a picture of a little big truck
Overlander
01-16-2003, 09:41 PM
Here are the latest pics as of 1/16. I thought since Hally started this thread that it is a good place to continue with progress pictures.
I am in the middle of figureing out the best steering geometry.
Overlander
01-16-2003, 09:43 PM
another pic.
I dont know much about photography. Can anyone tell me what kind of digital camera will take clear close-ups of small things?
Overlander
01-16-2003, 09:46 PM
pic
Overlander
01-16-2003, 09:50 PM
Hally called this thread TTTT and custom stuff.
Here is some custom stuff
Hicountry
01-19-2003, 03:00 AM
Thanks for starting the thread Hally. The truck is looking good Overlander.
Do you guys know where I can order a Unimog and a MAN, mayby 5t.
I am building a 1/24 stock car right now, but I will make time. It just looks like too much fun.
Hally, how big are the trials areas guys are driving on? I understand that it is a competition? If so how is it scored? Thanks
hally
01-19-2003, 07:03 PM
There are no official rules there are only a few who build tttt cars and drive with them just for fun but there are ideas for rules
the boys from www.mikromodell.de posted the following rules on their homepage:
there is no time limit .
but the truck should be able to drive at least 10min
every osstackle has 10 points
as in real trucktrial there have to be several obstackles. How much compares to the parcour. you can split the obstackle into stages after mastering it gives you x points . if a truck is stuck you can use your fingers(-5points) or another competant trys to push the stuck car with his own truck +5 points and +10 points for getting a truck back on the wheels if it tipped over. you cant lose more points than you can get or have.
also there should be the a contruktion price for best truck in contest.
how big a parcour is is your choice
hally
01-19-2003, 07:14 PM
http://www.1-87vehicles.org/
you can also get them where h0 items for modell train are sold
Hicountry
01-20-2003, 03:14 AM
Thanks for the info Hally.
I have found a Ford C-cab with a box, and a pull back that looks a little like a unimog. I have some other projects and a school to finish for work. Then we will give it a shot. I wish receivers were cheaper, I seem to be buying a lot of them lately.
I have a thing for the big 4x4 european trucks. Unimogs and MAN's especially. I really want a Paris to Dakar MAN truck. They just aren't easy to find around here. I'll check the sights you posted.
RC has taken over my life....Its great!!
Overlander
01-20-2003, 04:59 PM
Hicountry,
Try this link for any Roco vehical.
http://reynaulds.com/
Also, check out:
http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7157
for the "How To" article I wrote.
-Todd
Hicountry
01-21-2003, 03:45 AM
They have a bunch of neat trucks. Thanks for the parts list. What do our German friends use for a receiver?
Hicountry out!
hally
01-21-2003, 08:14 AM
Hi Hicountry they use 40MhzFm pico receiver there are also informations to tune the receivers for more channels and smaller size on www.mikroantriebe.de is the jstmini wich is 25.5-15.5-10.5mm size it can be reduced to 20-15-9mm
onother one ist the graupner XP8 wich is a little bit bigger
hally
01-22-2003, 03:59 PM
this one would be nice with another frequency and if manufactured it like others with the conektors all one one side without other components between them it would be easy to make it shorteri dont know how it is sized but its more than the cell wich is 17mm so maybe it fits on a trucks back.
NEW NARROW BAND HYBRID, LOW VOLTAGE, SUB-MICRO RECEIVER
FROM SKY HOOKS & RIGGING
This new unit is designed to operate on a single, 3.6 Volt Lithum Ion Cell. Its operating Voltage range is between 3 V. and 5.1Volts. The user should not attempt to operate this new Low Voltage receiver on higher Voltages than 3.7 Volts nominal.
The new RX72N-HYB-V, 5.5 gram, sub micro receiver, from Sky Hooks & Rigging, is lighter than other narrow band receivers without speed controllers.
THE POLYCELL-210 is 3.7 Volts nominal. When fully charged, it has a top Voltage of 4.2 Volts. This is ample for the operation of the recommended motors. The cell weighs 5.2 grams and has a cut-off point of 3.0 Volts. Should the Voltage in the cell be permitted to drop below 3.0 Volts, the cell will go into a coma and never return. The dimensions of the cell are 30mm x 17mm x 6.4mm and its capacity is 210 mAh. The cell has a discharge rate of 1.5 Amps and a charge rate of 100 mAh.
hally
01-22-2003, 04:42 PM
this is a model of a gama goat wich lost against the hummer in the army search for a new light multi purpose vehicle
hally
01-22-2003, 04:44 PM
an dumper trailer for an unimog
hally
01-22-2003, 04:47 PM
with suspension
scuba steve
01-22-2003, 04:55 PM
wow nice tttt's guys!
hally
01-22-2003, 04:55 PM
training on a piece of plaster:
Overlander
01-22-2003, 04:56 PM
Hally,
I used to drive a gamma goat when I was in the U.S. Army stationed in Germany.
I have also seen that model on the website. It is mostly hand made!
hally
01-22-2003, 04:57 PM
and the smalest of the smalest 1:120 rc truck check it out
hally
01-22-2003, 05:00 PM
fantasy 6x6 unimog
hally
01-22-2003, 05:03 PM
stuff
Overlander
01-22-2003, 05:06 PM
That Unimog really exists! It is built by Thorsten!
hally
01-22-2003, 05:09 PM
mission to mars??
Hicountry
01-22-2003, 05:10 PM
Cool water crossing hally!!
Are those nude sunbathers?
I am still sifting through your info on the receiver. It looks like I'm going to have to buy a new transmitter. I am chasing Overlanders link for parts now. It may be a while before I get to put them together but I want to get the parts now. Two of the trucks I have to build are actually 1/79. Close enough for me.
Hicountry
01-22-2003, 05:15 PM
That last pic is awesome!!!
One corner of my HO world is going to have a train tunnel. I was going to build part of my TTTT course on that hill.
I think I am going to build some extra courses too. A couple 2'x2' sections linked by some of those bridges would be great.
How steep a climb will these make? I want to know how to make the hillside over the tunnel.
hally
01-22-2003, 05:23 PM
yes i know but there is no real 6 unimog wheeled
hey soldierboy where in germany have you been stationed an how long have you been there
Overlander
01-22-2003, 08:44 PM
I was stationed at Herzo Base Near Nurenburg and Erlangen.
I was there between 1983 and 1985. When Ronald Raygun was president, and the Cold War was hot.
Before the Berlin wall came down.
Thorsten
01-24-2003, 04:09 AM
Hi
>>>>>yes i know but there is no real 6 unimog wheeled<<<<<
The green 6 wheel Unimog realy exist. It is used by a wine-farmer in austria. OK, the original is 6-wheel drive and using realy 2 steering axles.
My little green Unimog is also 6 wheel drive, but I am steering like a tank, powering the left or right wheels.
If you want to build a good offroad truck. So start with a "Roco 5tonner MAN" or another 2 wheel drive car.
This one has a smaller turning diameter and climbs also every hill.
The 4 wheeler often have problems with the gears and the steering front axle.
To get more power to the ground, so you can use soft silicon wheels.
It's is more fun to with a working 2 wheeler than repair every few minutes a hightech 8wheeler ;-))
best regards
Thorsten
www.mikromodell.de
Racemonster505
01-24-2003, 06:28 PM
those are cool pics i like the 6 wheeled one cool
hally
01-27-2003, 12:27 PM
Hi torsten this was a steyr daimler puch pienzgauer you were right sorry
killer
02-05-2003, 10:30 AM
:ö: some info and additional pics of a 6x6 UNIMOG ;) -æ
Mercedes-Benz Unimog 2450L 6x6 1995
Forward-control truck, 3 seats
loa: 7580mm, width: 2500mm, height: 2800mm (cab), weight: 8,100kg (unladen)
payload: 7,000kg, GVM: 17,000kg, towing: 12,000kg (braked)
wheelbase: 3900mm (1-2) and 5300mm (1-3), track: 1870mm, grnd clearance: 495mm
approach: 47 degrees, departure: 49
turning radius: 9.25m
Type OM 366 LA, 5958cc diesel 6 cyls turbo-charged intercooled 2v/cyl ohv
power: 177kW at 2600rpm, torque: 760Nm at 1700rpm
transmission: 8 speed, part-time 6x6, diff' locks, portal axles with hub-reduction
suspension: beam-coil, brakes: disc
tyres: 14.5R20, fuel-tank: 165L (220L optional)
killer
02-05-2003, 10:31 AM
another pic...
Thorsten
02-06-2003, 07:40 AM
Hi,
nice trucks, but think about. A long frame and 3 axles means a wide circle of turning.
And the modellrailroad layout have often very hard turns and small roads. Our TTTT-layouts also not a kind of highways.
Thats why the short 2-axle unimog is still my favorite car.
best regards
Thorsten
www.mikromodell.de
arch2b
02-08-2003, 01:27 PM
overlander-
how did you get the images to change or slide show effect in your post?
i just ordered the remaining parts for my project. i will get the micro screws as i build it.
i doubt i will produce the amazing results that you guys have done, but i'm going to try.
Overlander
02-08-2003, 02:25 PM
Arch,
That is an animated gif, and I "stole" it from Thorsten:D
I have seen your roofrack and I know you will make a nice one.
Let me know if I can be of help.
-Todd
Overlander
02-08-2003, 04:22 PM
Some future projects for me.
It will take some time........
Thorsten
02-08-2003, 05:16 PM
Hi Overlander,
nice projects. Where do you get the white "Prolog"-MAN???????? I am still searching one for you!
best regards
Thorsten
www.mikromodell.de
Overlander
02-08-2003, 05:51 PM
Thorsten,
Sorry, I forgot that I asked you to look for one!!:rolleyes:
I found it here:
http://www.discounttrainsonline.com/Roco-Automobiles-MAN-Off-Road-Truck-ProLog/item625-1647.html
I am still waiting on my Tatra Trial.
-Todd
Thorsten
02-09-2003, 07:55 AM
Hi Overlander,
no problem, I still don't find a "Prolog" until today. The TruckTrial Tatra still waits in my hobbieroom too. But I have the problem to rebuild all the trucks, subs and ships that I have collected here :-)))
Until March 2003 I will finnish my crane. I hope it works. Yesterday I have completed the driveline.
best regards
Thorsten
www.mikromodell.de
killer
02-09-2003, 10:14 AM
:ö: this one i like!
killer
02-09-2003, 10:41 AM
:ö:
spaz13
02-10-2003, 11:18 AM
Does anyone have any sites in ENGLISH where I can find some info on theese? They look fun, how much do they usually cost, and where do I buy the stuff??? Im in 1:10 RC so Im not a total noob at RC.
arch2b
02-10-2003, 11:57 AM
welcome to the 1:87 craze!
1. thorsten has his site in an english version. very nice. if you go to other german sites, i use google which will translate what it can of the sites.
2. go back and read through the entire thread. i have personaly posted cost estimates as well as others. we have provided helpful links to sites to purchase the trucks, batteries and electronics. not to frighten you away, but these are not cheap. it is well worth the expense though.
this thread has gotten so long, it's been a while since i've gone back to read some earlier pages and asked questions that have already been answered, sorry overlander.
this thread should pretty much give you everything you'll need to know to build yourself one of these amazing little things. good luck!
Overlander
02-11-2003, 01:52 AM
Arch,
No need to apologize. I am happy to re-answer any questions. I may refer people to the original post sometimes, just to save typing time.;)
As you mentioned, Thorsten's site http://www.mikromodell.de/ is also a great source of information and insperation.
I have got some valuable links from you too. You seem to have found some great resouces for parts online.
I have been lucky with my LSHs. Actually, my LSHs consist of about 5 different stores spread across about 160 miles from Mountain View, CA in he Bay Area, to Sacramento in the central valley.
I have orderded truck bodies from www.discounttrainsonline.com which you found and posted. They definitely have the best prices I have found.
Trapped in a freakin' hotel,
-Todd
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