Holy! Look At This!! Ull Drop Dead!!!

[Alex]

holy Shnitzel!!!! i saw this web site and i died!!! 1:87 SIZED ****4WD**** TRUCKS!!!! NO SHNITZEL!!!!! THIS IS TOTTALY AMAZING!!!! LinkMicmo.de (http://www.micmo.de)

[kbtoyz902]

wow...

[akura2]

I am absolutely amazed :eek:....I wish they had video clips

[link 228719]

those are awsome...the subs look realy cool

[mcbusiness]

OMG, the cars are definately cool, but check out the detail in their landscape!!

http://www.sts.gp.schule-bw.de/tttt-treff2.htm

[usagi]

Very intersting..................

[Alex]

Akura2,
U want vids? You gott em!http://www.hof-model.de/tttt/video.html

[QFM Racing]

Where do you think they are getting thier parts from? Thats just crazy.... Too bad they couldnt sell the design to Tomy or something. My guess is they are getting thier parts from the keyence 1:87 scale desk runner semi-trucks. I cant think of any other mirco RCs that come with parts that sophisticated, and the keyences have the most advanced micro RC electronics for anything that runs on wheels. I think the newest Keyences have a program memory sequence, that allows you to pre-program a flight plan if you will and the truck will navigate through obstacles as instructed. But these are expensive trucks, so I cant imagine anyone strippin them for parts! ouch!

[ssstraub]

Here is what they are made of. (translated from German)

Batteries:
It concerns here 4 cells nickel cadmium Akkus, those together
4.8 V result in. The 50mAh cells has a mass of 3,6g/Zelle; Diameter = 10mm; Length = 15,5mm; Interior reconditions 55mOhm

Receiver:
Here 40 MHz concern the JMP Rx5-2.3 receiver 5 channel of FM
Here some data:
Current supply: 3.1 - 15 V;
Dimensions: 27 x 14 x 6 mm;
Range: approx. 150 m;
Sensitivity: +/- 15kHz
Weight: 2,3g with JST connections

Automatic Controller:
It concerns a self-'s building automatic controller of another model construction amateur here.
It carries out to 400mA with 4,8V and is only 10x15 mm largely

Motor:
concerns a bell anchor GEAR MOTOR 181 here: 1
With winkelgetriebe and two waves. Operating voltage 0,5-6V,
Power input 45 - 70 mA, outlet number of revolutions: 2 V = 35 Upm, 3 V = 65 Upm, 6 V = 130 Upm, weight 14 g,
Mass: (L x B x H) 38 x 9 x 15 mm, transmission shafts 2 Ø.
By development of the transmissions - intermediate stage, can do one Reduction of 13,4: 1 to be selected.

Servo:
A pico concerns 5,4 servo here
Here some data:
Weight: 5.4 g; Floating time (5V, 40°): 0.09 seconds;
Torque (5V): 4.8 Ncm; Plug: JST Micro;
Mass: 15.5 x 23 x 9,5mm;

Pictures are here (http://www.hof-model.de/tttt/techman.html)
Click on the left to see different pics of the parts.

[me2cyclops]

da#n this is the start of somthing big ....or really little
as jim belushi said in blues brothers
"were on a mission from god"
I have a new goal in life
thanks for the pics!

[me2cyclops]

no its not a keyence axel they look like this

[Alex]

They Sell every part you need at http://www.mikroantriebe.de/

[me2cyclops]

yea but babel fish dosent work on that site
anyone speak german that could put together an order for me?

[QFM Racing]

Wow! the undreside of that keyence looks COOL! I didnt realize how complex the gearing was... nice. is it yours?

[me2cyclops]

I wish
no its just grabed it from a random website

[akura2]

They have the parts...but where do they get the wheels and tires from...and the actual trucks....where do you get the trucks to start with?

[Bez]

Those are cool little cars. I think I might have seen one smaller than them though. The car was a Mercedes Smart car and you can fit 3 of them into a normal sized matchbox! I will try and find the link. There is a video of it aswell but it is really poor quality, but it shows you the kind of speed and manouverability it has.

[Bez]

OK I got it. I think it's smaller aswell - it's 1/90th scale. The link below is a link to the Traxxas forums where I posted the link for this tiny car. Check it out:

http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97833

[mcbusiness]

Check out there pics where they make the trucks 1:1 scale!

http://www.hof-model.de/tttt/tttt2.html

[TheFanMan]

OMG, those look great.. I mean the little ones, not the tabletops. I think someone needs to tell the wonders of BC-G to those guys over at the traxxas forum. they are starting to get googly over those damn bullets

[akura2]

Originally posted by mcbusiness
Check out there pics where they make the trucks 1:1 scale!

http://www.hof-model.de/tttt/tttt2.html

Nice photoshop work.....

[Alex]

Akura2,
The Trucks are normal plastic models.

[akura2]

1/87 scale plastic models? hmmm... I think they might be Herpa Trucks...with heavy mods....www.herpa.de

[TheFanMan]

shweeeet:D

[akura2]

A lot of them are models... they are from ROCO and other companies that make HO scale models for railroad sets

[BaY oN AiM]

too bad i didnt drop dead....

lol.....

i prefer to stick with sport cars.....

[akura2]

Originally posted by QFM Racing
Where do you think they are getting thier parts from? Thats just crazy.... My guess is they are getting thier parts from the keyence 1:87 scale desk runner semi-trucks.

I'm in contact with one of the guys in Germany now looking fo rinformation... his company make a lot of the parts for the 1/87 scale trucks....most of those guys are fabricating their own parts...

There are some speed controls made from the amp board of a small servo... and the receivers are just micro receiver used in slowflyer planes... the motors are Mabuchi M20s and smaller...and they fabricate their own gears and gearboxes..but the guy I'm talking to makes some amazing brass fron axle assemblies

http://www.tttt-parts.org/Bilder/va2-2-0ab.JPG

http://www.tttt-parts.org/Bilder/v30b3.JPG

and here is a 1/87 scale 4WD setup

http://www.tttt-parts.org/Bilder/Allrad_1_Uebersicht_Seite.JPG

[akura2]

Better yet...here

[akura2]

another front axle

[akura2]

The 4WD system....

all the parts can be gotten from www.tttt-parts.org and the electronics are from http://www.mikroantriebe.de/ but it's all in German and saved as a JPG so you can't translate it... but if you retype the words into altavista then you can

[tinyrc]

Wow, this stuff is amazing!

[me2cyclops]

let me know when you get any info
I've already started working on a chassi

[akura2]

I've got 3 of the ROCO MAN 5t trucks on the way... and the guy will be making an all-in-one micro receiver/ESC as well... I'm going to buy a bunch of the pieces from him as soon as he gives me prices... and I need to find a 27 or 75 Mhz receiver if I can't find a 40Mhz module for my M8... unless someone here knows how to get a 40mHz module from Asia or Europe :)

[akura2]

THis is the truck I ordered...and I can't wait

[tinyrc]

akura2, email us RE that module. ;)

[akura2]

will do... one of the guys wrote me back and said that you can take a 75Mhz crystal and put it in the 40Mhz receiver and it will work...with reduced rage... but it shoud work nonetheless... how far do you really need to be from a 1/87 scale truck on a table?....:)

[tinyrc]

one of the guys wrote me back and said that you can take a 75Mhz crystal and put it in the 40Mhz receiver and it will work...

What? How could that possibly work?! :eek:

[akura2]

Dono... but if it does..I'll be in the money :)

Of course if any of our overseas readers out there can find a 40Mhz M8 module..... that would be good too..... ahem* Usagi?.... anyone?

[tinyrc]

akura2, didn't you see the two posts where I said we could get you one?!

[akura2]

OOps :D

[akura2]

TINYRC... I sent you an email a couple of days ago.....:)

[arch2b]

well, how do you like the tiny trucks? any reviews?

[akura2]

None yet... still waiting for info on the 40 Mhz module for my M8..I got the chassis, motor, steering, servo, ESC, Rx...everything I need

[eman1]

ive seen this site
http://www.hof-model.de/tttt/video.html
a while ago.
these little trucks are sweet

[bagelbm]

What name should I search for on ebay for a 1/87th scale?


well here's the translated page

""""
Police Smart 1:87

by Andreas Rackel and Markus Christl

with light and blue light

Technology: IR transmitter: Markus Christl IR receiver with automatic controller and servo control - mikroantriebe.de & Markus Christl Akku: Sanyo NC50 with potential transformer
engines: M61013 drive motor and M40813 guidance servo - mikroantriebe.de transmissions: Self's building Andreas Rackel

""'

[gotbit?]

how can i get ahold of one of these

[akura2]

you have to build them from scratch

[Roadkill]

Damn! those things are tiny and so cute! it looks like it has some kind of solid axle suspension and some torque full motor judging by the climbing ability... it must have been at least a 60 degree slope I saw it climbing. Tell me when i can buy one!

the truck has LEDs to! omg! i can even put them in my bit char-g's... that must be tight squeeze!

check this out. . . must be fiberoptic cables or something
http://www.hof-model.de/tttt/explorer07.html

[shocon2k]

I like how that truck in the first page of this thread has a steering servomotor instead of magnets and coils like our cars.

[skater252000]

Holy **** those things are crazy. Wish I had the pacience to build something like that.:(