Atomic Dnano SSG DSP Kit

[arch2b]

Dnano SSG DSP Kit
DN-006
http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/1330/ATO-DN006-a.jpg

http://mini-zracer.com/mini-zgallery/data/1330/ATO-DN006-b.jpg

[arch2b]

any reviews of this yet? it seems rear dampening is desperately needed.

[lornecherry]

http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img197/6476/rearfoamdampeners.jpg

I added foam between the motor mount and the chassis, in the space created by the H-plate ... then I stuffed some more under the "hightail" rear end of the LeMans Porsche and it seemed to help -- you need to fiddle with the amount of foam to get just the right amount -- I wonder how it compares to this Atomic part?

I do agree that this is an area where the D'NaNo needs significant tweaking, rear dampening is something I struggled with all last night.

[pedrocamp]

I tried the foam and was still getting a bit of hop. I have ordered a set and will let you know my opinion anyway in a few days. Hope I don't have to cut a hole in the back window of the Enzo though.

[Marcro]

I just saw this listed on ebay today and was going to post it here. I posted it in the Mini-Z forum instead. I'm tempted by this disc damper and wondering if it'll fit under the Murcielago body. I think the Murcielago has more room than the Enzo?

[pedrocamp]

I fit the kit on my Enzo today and did have to poke a hole in the rear window unfortunately. We race tomorrow at the HT in Mooresville so I will give my thoughts after I run it.

[Marcro]

Would you pleas post pic's as well? Thank you!

[pedrocamp]

The DDS worked well and calmed down the rear of the car, BUT two with issues:
The holes in the discs are a bit large or the post is a bit small because there is a significant amount of play. The dampening doesn't start working till the post contacts the disc and you can feel this happening, especially with some fluid on the discs. This transition unsettles the car. I ended up sticking one of the metal washers included in the Atomic H-Plate kit into the recess of the upper disc. The washer fit the damper post closely, this took out the play to this disc at least and the car behaved better. I will have to make up a larger post or sleeve the existing post to fix this. Smaller holes in the discs would solve the problem too.
Also, I had to cut a hole in the car... (pictured below)

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm11/cojono/EnzoDDS8_1_09.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm11/cojono/EnzoDDS28_1_09.jpg

[patrick38]

so if i read your post the product isn,t that good at all (before modding)
if you have too tweak that much , and you can,t make the holes in the disk smaller.
and i don,t like to cut a hole in the back ( that,s pesonal )
but thanks for the revieuw but i wait for a mabey a second version

[arch2b]

the hole doesn't bother me nearly as much as the concern regarding excessive play in the parts.

it's unfortunate that the first batch of parts from atomic all seem to require some revision/refinement. they've had over a year to get this prototyping done.

[pedrocamp]

I also feel the hole in the carbon friction plate is much too large and the discs took a bit of sanding to get them flat. Since I might replace a few of the parts I think I spent 20 bucks on some springs and screws.

[Marcro]

Interesting review. Another let down on Atomic's Dnano hop-ups. First, their ball differential looked promising but required some mods I believe, and now this? I thought they were pretty good with the Z's and this wouldn't have been much different? Or is it because it's smaller, it's harder to make precise? I'm rather disappointed at this moment.
While I generally buy hop-up's to look good, I want theme functional as well and these two upgrades from Atomic don't sound all that hot after all.
I am not an expert at perfecting something that requires working on and modifications in order to work properly. I'm much more of a plug'n'play type of guy and I like things to work instantly right out of the package.
I'm very glad for these reviews as it saves me money on purchasing these items that require fudging to work. Thank you, and thank's for the pictures!
I admit though, the disc-damper does look good, but I'd hate to drill a hole in my cars window for it to work. Might as well have a long antenna sticking out the back of it too.
Good luck with it and let us know how it handles on the track and during actual racing!

[arch2b]

some times you have to make sacrifices. you have to cut holes in windows on some mini-z's as well to get rear dampers to work. you can't design a damper to fit every body. you aim for the common sweet spot and the rest are 'some modification required'. it hasn't caused a calamity with mini-z and i doubt i will with dnanos.

[Marcro]

Yes I'm aware. Remember when I built that black Countach and had to cut out a rectangular hole for the top shock to function? I didn't like doing that on that awesome AutoScale body, but it did function great and worked really well on the track. Then, when your on the track zipping around and around, you really don't notice those details, not when your looking at the overall picture.
I'd still hate to take away from the scale appearance of which makes these Dnano's so fantastic! I wonder what bodies the disc-damper will fit better under and what bodies you'd have to mod. One configuration I don't see this working on is the HM Delta bodies.

[lornecherry]

If you get questions about the hole or screw, and what they are for, simply pick one of the following:

a) it's the screw for the twin-turbo mod ... my car can now hit scale Mach 2.

b) the hole allows the nitrous oxide to escape.

c) watch closely at next week's F1 race, I sold the same mod to the Ferrari team.

d) it's a rear-view camera ... needed because Kyosho can't make a #$%! mirror that actually stays on the body.

[Marcro]

Hello again. Does this disc-damper work on both RM as well as MM? As I'm getting the Subaru WRX this week, I believe it is RM and I'd like to know if this will work on that as well.
Would like to get two of these if their worth while.

[pedrocamp]

I fit one to a RM 917 and it worked other than body clearance. One issue I have had though is the little plastic piece that sandwiches the chassis tab with the damper plate (c-shaped part that goes underneth the tab) sttrips out easily. The screws are too short, the holes too big and the plastic too soft. All those running the DDS here at Mooresville have fit longer-larger screws.

[Marcro]

Thank's for the info. It sounds like it'll be more suited for my Subaru which SHOULD have more room for it than my Murcielago. Also, thank's for the tip on the screws.
The 917 I think is the SMALLEST body and probably the flattest one as well, so I'm sure it's NOT suitable for the disc damper.

[Marcro]

I ordered some Dnano stuff from EGR Mart. Finally getting my starter kit with extra batteries, aluminum upgrades for the Countach, and a disc-damper for the Murcielago. I am curious as to how this will work in conjunction with an already fully hopped-up Murcielago. I wonder if it'll fit the Porsche as well. I will try it out on both.
I have the feeling that the Countach is much too thin of a body for the disc-damper to work on that car, but the Porsche 911 look's to have enough room.
I'll try it on both cars and if it works well enough, I'll get another kit.
Thanks for the info on that hole being large. I was thinking of using heat-shrink tubing on that post.

[MrNanoTrax]

damper fits comfortably on the 911 but doesn't make that much of a handling difference. the atomic damper won't fit on any of the flat bodies and takes up way more space than it should... one of our members installed one last week. i keep less than 2 in stock due its low "workability" factor.

[Jellis]

I wouldn't run any of my cars without the dampener plate no matter how much I had to modify the body. I know some of you don't want to mod the body but I'm way more into the performance than the look of the body.

IMO it makes a huge difference in the handling of the car

[Marcro]

Thank's for the info. I'll post what I think of it when I receive it. Could be any day now, possibly even today with any luck!
I'll finally be getting my starter kit too so I can drive the darn thing's! :D

[nalves]

I wouldn't run any of my cars without the dampener plate no matter how much I had to modify the body. I know some of you don't want to mod the body but I'm way more into the performance than the look of the body.

IMO it makes a huge difference in the handling of the car

Hi,

To use it in the Porsche 911 we need to modify the body?

Thanks,
Nuno

[Jellis]

Nuno I havn't seen the dampener in the 911 yet

[MrNanoTrax]

no, you can use the damper on the 911 with no body mods. fits perfectly ;-)

[Marcro]

I like it on the Murcielago, but it too requires a hole to be cut for the top.
I don't think it'll fit the Countach at all, but I plan on putting one on both Porsche and Subaru.

[ub0211042]

Hi,

Will the DSS fit onto Ferrari 360 modena without any mods?

Thanks.

[MrNanoTrax]

Hi,

Will the DSS fit onto Ferrari 360 modena without any mods?

Thanks.


it should... there's plenty of space back there ;)

[hamz9561]

Will this damper fit without many mods on Audi R8?

[MrNanoTrax]

i believe it should... i'm supposed to be building a Race Spec Audi R8 (https://shop.nanotrax.net/products-page/dnano-chassis-sets/nanotrax-race-spec-dnano/) for a customer here soon so get at me by e-mail for definite confirmation... the X-Power damper is actually better and slightly less expensive & has a cool led light ;)