ADR Track

[fraz]

So in case you guys might need the bar raised a little... here's a couple pics of our track:) Sorry for the lower resolution as I didn't take these photos. Here is also a link to the thread on my site with some better pics. If you have questions, feel free to ask.

http://fraz.com/groups/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=73

Small panorama
http://fraz.com/images/dnano/ard/Track4.jpg

Track level
http://fraz.com/images/dnano/ard/1235.JPG

Helicopter view
http://fraz.com/images/dnano/ard/1238.JPG

Long angle
http://fraz.com/images/dnano/ard/1247.JPG

[-J-]

:eek: How wide are those lanes?!? Looks good, though.

[MrNanoTrax]

nice effort... the kyosho course that comes with the track got a little boring i assume? :)

[pchan0]

fraz,

What material did you use for the infield? I would like to do the same for my track.

Thanks.

[Profoxcg]

I think its RCP isn't it?
BTW, what is the dimension of you lanes and the overall track?

[-J-]

[QUOTE=Profoxcg;204448]I think its RCP isn't it?QUOTE]

Looks like it. That and a lot of tape.

[fraz]

How wide are those lanes?!? Looks good, though.

Lanes are pretty continuous ~2-2.5ft wide and the back straight is a little wider. It is PLENTY for these cars if you can drive. My friends and I are all pretty acomplished drivers and while it took some getting used to, now we are used to it and we can haul butt. Waiting for lap counter to come in from China right now but we did some sloppy timing tests and would say 10-12 second laps. A perfect lap is likely in the high 9 second range.

Keep in mind we are running stock motors, 6-7t gears and the cars are WAY more than fast enough to get you in trouble. The real speed secret is turning down end point on transmitter. I think I had mine at 45% and still way fast. We don't allow gyro to keep things fair so I have to leave mine unplugged. I never even took my x-speed motor out of the package cause it is not needed!!

My first reaction was it was too small to rally or even race and I was dead wrong. We get running and have on a number of occasions had up to 6 lead changes... IN 1/2 LAP!!! If that's not raceable, I'm not sure what is:)

nice effort... the kyosho course that comes with the track got a little boring i assume? :)

The RCP is nice and I am an original supporter of RCP. Heck just ask JohnB from RCP, he knows me. I'm sure if he sees this, he'll dig it. What we wanted though was some more realism. On real race tracks, rarely do hard walls ever come out to the edge of the track. Maybe on temporary courses or a NASCAR oval, but that's it. They all have runoff, FIA berms, etc. That is what we were going for. Gotta give vast majority of credit to my friend Mike as it was his brainchild. This one is just temporary for fun so wait until you see the REAL track we are cooking up:)

What material did you use for the infield? I would like to do the same for my track.

Had a feeling I'd find you here eventually P ;) So the recipe for this track is easy and cheap but a bit time consuming.

~~add 1 crazy track designer (hi Mike)
~~add "matched" blank RCP tiles -- use back side and match them so there are no gaps or edges. Takes time but way smooth and cars roll free as can be through corners. Least amount of scrub.
~~add 2 rolls of 1/2 wide self-adhesive weatherstripping tape
~~add 1 large roll of white duct tape
~~add 1 large roll of red duct tape
~~add 2 large rolls of 2" green crepe/masking tape
~~add some hours of patience and an equally crazy friend to methodically cut out red stripe FIA berms (yours truly)
~~drink plenty of caffeine
~~mix, and enjoy for hours

**Sprinkle a copious amount of vaccuuming to taste. Especially good if you have pets!

BTW, what is the dimension of you lanes and the overall track?

Total length is like 20ft (~16ft straight) and width is around 9ft.

[RCP-Tracks, Inc]

Looks great Fraz, nice job.

We have a new RCP track coming out soon for the dnano car. It allows users to set up twisting and sweeping layouts just as yours. The new tracks will interconnect with existing RCP 50cm kits and are modular, so set up and tear down is very quick. I will arrange a sample once they are available for you to test out.

Thanks,
John

[kevtse]

Here's our home track over in Hong Kong :)

http://images4.fotop.net/albums4/kevintse/dnanopoker21feb2009/ztn_R1153795.jpg
http://images4.fotop.net/albums4/kevintse/dnanopoker21feb2009/tn_R1154474.jpg
http://images4.fotop.net/albums4/kevintse/dnanopoker21feb2009/tn_R1154434.jpg
http://images4.fotop.net/albums4/kevintse/dnanopoker21feb2009/tn_R1154458.jpg
http://images4.fotop.net/albums4/kevintse/dnanopoker21feb2009/tn_R1154464.jpg
http://images4.fotop.net/albums4/kevintse/dnanopoker21feb2009/tn_R1154443.jpg
http://images4.fotop.net/albums4/kevintse/dnano7feb2009/tn_R1153622.jpg
http://images4.fotop.net/albums4/kevintse/dnano7feb2009/tn_R1153627.jpg

[arch2b]

thanks for the picture of the unit. please give us your impressions of the software.

[kevtse]

The Kyosho lap timer is brilliant. Have 3 modes to choose from:

1. Free Run - Records all the lap times and gives you your best lap
2. Race (Laps)
3. Race (Time Limit)

A must have tool if you have a bunch of dnano racers like us as all the cars have the IC built in already.

Kev

[-J-]

Cool! Where are you guys? I'm in hong kong too.

[MrNanoTrax]

looks like model selection for u guys is just as limited as it is for us here in thailand. how do u feel about dnano performance on RCP?

[kevtse]

Hi J! Good to know you are in Hong Kong too! Usually we meet at the dNaNo shop in Mongkok during the weekdays and run on our private track in the weekends. Let's meet up in the Mongkok shop! Can you go around lunch hour during the weekdays?

We are getting more dNaNo cars as we speak in Hong Kong. We just got the Countach and the R8 complete sets yesterday. But the biggest problem is parts as we get nothing. 4 of my friends broke their servo gears or tie rod and there's no stock. All the tires are gone too not to mention ball diff, gyro and X motor. Demand for parts in Hong Kong is super high but there is just no supply. Hey NanoTrax you think I can order from you?

With stock #50 front tires the dNaNo cars feel too grippy on the front for RCP tracks. Just turn the steering and the car would do a 180 degree spin. We find that #60 front tires would run the best on RCP. Also since the grip is good on RCP we find the HM chassis is a bit quicker than MM chassis. The HM is more nimble around the tighter corners and yields a quicker laptime.

Kev

[MrNanoTrax]

you mean RM? (i see u have several RM chassis cars running in your pics, no HM) ;) ... i have very little stock myself KevTSE :( ... i do have a few things though: front tires (various hardness), ONE x-motor, a good number of wheel sets but all size 18/19, a few replacement parts & 2 sizes of aluminum wheel hubs. i would say check my site for what i do have in stock but i've been told not to do that here :D

[kevtse]

Oh yea I mean RM! :<)

Kev

[-J-]

Hi J! Good to know you are in Hong Kong too! Usually we meet at the dNaNo shop in Mongkok during the weekdays and run on our private track in the weekends. Let's meet up in the Mongkok shop! Can you go around lunch hour during the weekdays?

We are getting more dNaNo cars as we speak in Hong Kong. We just got the Countach and the R8 complete sets yesterday. But the biggest problem is parts as we get nothing. 4 of my friends broke their servo gears or tie rod and there's no stock. All the tires are gone too not to mention ball diff, gyro and X motor. Demand for parts in Hong Kong is super high but there is just no supply. Hey NanoTrax you think I can order from you?

I'm in school during the week, so I can't go anywhere during lunch. We'll meet up sometime I'm sure.

A couple of your friends stripped their servo gears as well? They seem kind of fragile to me. I've stripped one set, replaced them, and think I might've stripped another set.

About the ball diffs; there is about a 10 person line of people including myself waiting for ball diffs at the dnano shop in mongkok, you might wanna get in line if you're not already! :rolleyes:

[MrNanoTrax]

i installed the ball diff on both of my models (porsche 911 gt3/mazda 787b no55) & i think it makes a slight but notable difference in performance on corners. let's hope the news that i just got 5 mins ago isn't too good 2 be true *crosses fingers* :D

[kevtse]

In total I have stripped 3 sets of servos and broke 2 tie rods already on my 2 cars (787 and Enzo). I really hope someone will come up with stronger metal parts.

In the last Hong Kong shipment I reserved and bought 10 ball diffs but that's still not enough as my group of dNaNo cars have grown to 16 now...

Just wish the Japanese would make the parts quicker!

Kev

[-J-]

i installed the ball diff on both of my models (porsche 911 gt3/mazda 787b no55) & i think it makes a slight but notable difference in performance on corners.

That's good to hear. I've got one on order and hope to get it soon. I was talking to someone the other day about the ball diffs, and he said to experiment with different combinations of supplied springs and different lubricants. He mention different lubricants really changed the behavior of the diff. I'm sure you knew that, just thought I'd mention it.

let's hope the news that i just got 5 mins ago isn't too good 2 be true *crosses fingers* :D

You can't just leave us hanging like that. :D

In total I have stripped 3 sets of servos and broke 2 tie rods already on my 2 cars (787 and Enzo). I really hope someone will come up with stronger metal parts.

This is just hearsay, but I've read that PN Racing is prototyoing parts for the dnano as we speak. Just something to hope for.

In the last Hong Kong shipment I reserved and bought 10 ball diffs but that's still not enough as my group of dNaNo cars have grown to 16 now...

Just wish the Japanese would make the parts quicker!

Kev

That's a lot of dnanos. No we know why there are no parts in Hong Kong. ;)

[Sonik]

In total I have stripped 3 sets of servos and broke 2 tie rods already on my 2 cars (787 and Enzo). I really hope someone will come up with stronger metal parts.

In the last Hong Kong shipment I reserved and bought 10 ball diffs but that's still not enough as my group of dNaNo cars have grown to 16 now...

Just wish the Japanese would make the parts quicker!

Kev

if you dont mind me asking how are you stripping the gears ? i have yet to strip a gear and i have been driving it hard, you got me thinking i should be ordering some spare gears..

[kevtse]

if you dont mind me asking how are you stripping the gears ? i have yet to strip a gear and i have been driving it hard, you got me thinking i should be ordering some spare gears..

Actually this is a strange issue. Out of my friends' 15 dnano's we notice only the Enzo's have the tendency to strip the servo gears. All other cars are ok so we are suspecting that the front of the Enzo body doesn't provide the protection to the front wheels. So once you hit the wall with an Enzo, the impact goes to the front wheels hence stripping the servo gears...

That's our best guestimation....

Kev

[Sonik]

thanks for the reply Kevste, my friend has the enzo, i'll let him know,

i was begining to think this forum was dead lol, not much talk about the dnano on the web ?

15 nano's lol wow, i wish i had 5 nanos to race with :) so far there is only 3 of us here , was 2 till yesterday lol, im in the UK by the way, not many people here want to pay the price for the dnano, they dont understand how good they are , its a shame cos i feel its not going to catch on here :( we have to order everything from kyosho france, kyosho uk dont even stock them.

[arch2b]

it's hard to keep activity up when kyo usa has nothing to give us...

[Sonik]

it's hard to keep activity up when kyo usa has nothing to give us...

yeah that is strange how france/uk stock them but usa dont, its usually the other way around with rc stuff, but even still uk following for nano is very slow, as the rest of europe is , as far as i can tell, looks like i'll have to wait till you guys across the pond get them in stock for more mods and general banter on the forums, i must have read every thread on here 2 times lol,

[lornecherry]

Can you give me your source/link for getting the lap timing equipment from China, as I can find no source in Canada (or USA). Thanks, Lorne

[tinyrc]

Lorne, where have you been hiding, haven't heard from you in ages?! :)

[tinyrc]

~~add 1 large roll of white duct tape
~~add 1 large roll of red duct tape

~~add some hours of patience and an equally crazy friend to methodically cut out red stripe FIA berms (yours truly)

fraz, not sure if it would work for your track, but I have this tape that I found, similar to "caution" tape etc. but w/ the red/white alternating - perfect for stuff like this. Also, checked out your site - liked the tiny computing links - email me if you're still into that stuff, want to run something by you. Thanks! :)

[lornecherry]

Tinyrc ...Well, I've been out of the sport for three years, having been very ill. (got a bad heart)

The Toronto School Board has now hired me to look into another racing program, the Dnano seems everything the other 1/43 scale were not, and in many ways are even better than the Z, with respect to space requirements and lap timing.

The cost and Kyosho's complete misunderstanding of the NA market are somewhat a turnoff. I don't understand the price point in this economy.

Anyway, I need to get a few cars an try them on this: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8501/tabletopracing12.jpg

[lornecherry]

anyone have a source for the Dnano lap timing equipment? - Thanks, Lorne

[tinyrc]

Tinyrc ...Well, I've been out of the sport for three years, having been very ill. (got a bad heart)


Yikes L, hope you're doing better now? :confused: :)


The cost and Kyosho's complete misunderstanding of the NA market are somewhat a turnoff. I don't understand the price point in this economy.


There's a lot that's confusing about the dNaNo strategy. Right now all we can really do is wait and see, I've given up trying to find logic in it! :)


Anyway, I need to get a few cars an try them on this: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8501/tabletopracing12.jpg

Whoa - cool - what is that?!

[tinyrc]

fraz, not sure if it would work for your track, but I have this tape that I found, similar to "caution" tape etc. but w/ the red/white alternating - perfect for stuff like this. Also, checked out your site - liked the tiny computing links - email me if you're still into that stuff, want to run something by you. Thanks! :)

:confused: fraz? :)

[fraz]

:confused: fraz? :)

Oops, my bad. Been pretty busy at work lately. I tried PM and it looks like you have it disabled. Just drop me a mail at jfrazier 00 at g mail dot com. (remove spaces)