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fovea3d
10-05-2008, 12:19 PM
Here are some test fits from my collection of Epoch bodies and bodies I already adapted to Epoch chassis.

Some will fit the Dnano Murcielago setup perfectly (Epoch spec1 bodies) some other would require narrower tracks and longer/shorter H plate.

Epoch spec 1:

http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanosky01.jpg
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/DnanoSupra03.jpg

Epoch spec 2:

http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt06.jpg
The old school skyline would require a shorter front body mount
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt07.jpg

Plastic kits (1/43 scale)

http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt01.jpg
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt02.jpg
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt03.jpg
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt04.jpg
Too bad the Vette is so narrow. I doubt it can be made to fit:
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt08.jpg

fovea3d
10-05-2008, 12:23 PM
And!
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt09.jpg
Joking ;)

The rest of my collection (all 1/43 or 1/32 plastic bodies)

http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt10.jpg
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt11.jpg
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt12.jpg
http://alain.galluser.free.fr/Z/Dnanoadapt13.jpg

Some 1/32 slotcar bodies of compact cars would fit. The green Simca with black hood on the last picture is a 1/32 scalextric that was adapted to the Epoch chassis. It would fit the Dnano chassis with a longer H plate.

tinyrc
10-05-2008, 01:38 PM
Very cool A, and great pics! :)

Marcro
10-05-2008, 07:50 PM
WOW! I like that RSX the best with those AVM rims, very cool! I'd stick with that body! How does the Dnano chassis handle with the added weight of the Epoch body? And can you show us pictures of how you mounted the body onto the chassis? I've got a Slot car Mini Cooper S that fit's RM conversion but is too narrow for some of the Dnano's. The Mini Cooper S fit's over the chassis perfectly, but the wheels stick out to wide so I'd need to find the shortest track possible. Track being the wheelbase from left side to right side. :D

fovea3d
10-05-2008, 08:14 PM
WOW! I like that RSX the best with those AVM rims, very cool! I'd stick with that body! How does the Dnano chassis handle with the added weight of the Epoch body? And can you show us pictures of how you mounted the body onto the chassis? I've got a Slot car Mini Cooper S that fit's RM conversion but is too narrow for some of the Dnano's. The Mini Cooper S fit's over the chassis perfectly, but the wheels stick out to wide so I'd need to find the shortest track possible. Track being the wheelbase from left side to right side. :D

Well the white RSX will stay untouched for some reason, David aka tinyrc knows why ;) I will keep it in the Epoch form, just posted the pic for info.

The handling is really good with the added weight, feels steady, but most of all, indestructible. I ran it in a mini-z heat last friday. Was intending a comparison but the Dnano finished 3rd out ouf 8 Mini-z, how about that? ;)

For the mounts check the "Supra adaptation" thread, it has pictures.

I am sure with future bodies like the Lancia Delta we will have the conversion parts to very narrow tracks.

Marcro
10-05-2008, 08:24 PM
I was also wondering about the Delta and I hope it will be narrow enough to accomidate the Mini Cooper. I think it would be pretty cute to have such a tiny little RC Mini Cooper haul butt! You didn't video tape that Dnano being in 3rd did you? that would've been sweet. I wanted to do same test with my Lit but it had the tendancy to flip over alot, so it was really slow around turns, so it would've NOT been a good comparison test.
I'm surprised the Dnano handled the abuse from the bigger cars? Still trying to find out why my Murcielago's stalling. But right now I'm waiting for the DnanoShop to have the white 911 as that'll be my next Dnano car. I'll check out the Supra after dinner, thank's!

fovea3d
10-05-2008, 08:35 PM
No we just taped the Dnano race. The race with the Supra body was later. Well of course I told the guys to be easy on the Dnano, and I cleared the leader when he came back but I mastered to pass several Z's being very careful not to stay to close.

soulstice
03-22-2009, 10:07 PM
Just wanted to add a few other custom body possibilities to this thread. Some of the japanese hobbyist have been using Bandai 1/43 finished plastic model kits which i feel have a better finish then the epochs IMO.
http://shop.as-web.jp/shop/S11138/images/20696/pic_big.jpg


Also Arch2b was curious about this but the Honda NSX posted recently on the japanese kyosho store website is a model kit from Rosso. So yes, it is indeed a custom.
http://akihabara.kyoshoshop.com/DSC_9921.jpg

arch2b
03-23-2009, 05:30 PM
oh my, some of those kits can be bought for $18!

we seriously need to start a chassis/kit db as it will be far cheaper to purchase and mount these than buying dnano autoscales.

anyone glean how they are mounting these over in jpn?

edhchoe
04-12-2009, 03:09 AM
This car (http://www.toystop.net/GT-500-Team-Impul-Calsonic-Impul/M/B000UKMTI6.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=froogle) seems to have the exact same wheelbase as my Lambo - 63mm. Width could be close but not sure. By looking at the old Calsonic Nissan car at the top of the thread, the width might be a match also... Someone needs to start selling the mounting pieces for a reasonable price.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8599/impulz.jpg

arch2b
04-12-2009, 11:24 AM
do any of the japanese sites show how they mount the bandai bodies? those are seriously cheap thus very interesting to work with.

edhchoe
04-13-2009, 08:40 PM
I ordered the blue Impul Z pictured above... $20.15 shipped. I am planning to mount it using foam and lego. :D
I am going to cut out a piece of foam from one of my old Tamiya 1/10 car foam bumpers. Put it in the front and mount like how Mini Z bodies mount. And for the sides, I will try to use the round lego pieces. I will have to trim it to fit in the holes on the chassis.
I searched japanese sites using Online translators to search for phrases like "mount bandai dnano" but I could not find any instructions. :(

edhchoe
04-18-2009, 12:49 AM
For the front, I stuffted some hard foam in the empty space for the front part of the chassis to push against. And I glued on a flat piece of plastic from the parts tree on the bottom to hold the chassis. For the sides, I used parts tree pieces as well. I sanded down the parts tree pieces so that I could have some flat surface to glue on. The rear tires are touching the body in the back so I drummelled out some. I used Gorilla "Impact-Tough" formula because I could not find Loctite Epoxy at my local Target store... I hope it holds. :)
I took the part off on the front end of the chassis where the stock body hooks on. Impul Z body is a near perfect fit for the Murcielago chassis. I had to grind out the bottom part of the front chrome piece and trim down the four support poles inside the body. Because the side of the Impul Z body near the rear wheels is not parallel to the chassis the parts tree piece won't have enough surface area to be glued on. Cut the part long on one end so that long arm can be glued toward the front fender well. I had to replace the ones in the picture with longer ones.

One of the mirrors is already bent after bumping into the wall few times. :(

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4893/1007265medium.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1007265medium.jpg)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8125/1007266medium.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1007266medium.jpg)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6351/1007267medium.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1007267medium.jpg)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7646/1007268medium.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1007268medium.jpg)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8977/1007269medium.th.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1007269medium.jpg)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8171/1007270medium.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1007270medium.jpg)
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/4617/1007271medium.th.jpg (http://img2.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1007271medium.jpg)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9246/1007273medium.th.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1007273medium.jpg)

edhchoe
04-18-2009, 12:26 PM
I guess it will hold. My entire track is made of foam and I am running by myself so I have not had any real collisions with other cars. The body is not as flexable as my Kyosho Lamboghini so it took a little bit of getting used to but it works fine and I like it. If you make the side nipples too long, you could have harder time putting the body on/off.

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7863/1007274small.jpg

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7082/1007275smallc.jpg

Marcro
08-03-2009, 11:02 PM
I have been wondering about some model kit's in 1/43 scale.
I have a 1/43 scale slot car of the new Mini Cooper S, but it is too narrow for the Dnano's wheel base. The chassis its self fit's the body, and converting it to RM seems to help, but the wheel base needs to be narrower to fit the Mini properly.
I've just seen on ebay some Heller model kit's in 1/43 including one of my favorite WRC cars, the Peugeot 206. I wonder if that will fit the Dnano and I wonder how to make it snap onto the chassis.
What is the narrowest of all Dnano cars? The Delta?

fovea3d
08-03-2009, 11:18 PM
I think I have found the most challenging body to fit on a Dnano chassis.
An AC Cobra :)
At first glance it won't fit, due to the very short wheelbase, but if I remove the H bar it fits with the rear tires almost touching the chassis block.

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/Dnano/Fovea3d/090606cobra/cobra03.jpg
More pics here (http://www.nanospeeders.com/forum_z/index.php?showtopic=1385)

Also found an old Heller 1/43 kit. This one fits the Murcielago chassis perfectly. Funny the Sauber Mercedes is also the first body to be released with the new Mini-z chassis MR03...

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/Dnano/Fovea3d/090604mercedesc9/c9.jpg

fovea3d
08-03-2009, 11:25 PM
I've just seen on ebay some Heller model kit's in 1/43 including one of my favorite WRC cars, the Peugeot 206. I wonder if that will fit the Dnano and I wonder how to make it snap onto the chassis.
What is the narrowest of all Dnano cars? The Delta?
The 206 is about the size of the Delta in real life, so it should fit at dNano scale, provided the dNano Delta is exact 1/43.

fovea3d
08-03-2009, 11:35 PM
I think I posted this already but can't remember where.

Two more projects "for when I have some spare time" :rolleyes:

They are 1/32 slotcar bodies. But they are really tiny cars in 1/1 and so they fit the dnano chassis with long WB and wide tracks (murcielago).
I had to shave everything under the body but could manage to keep the drivers heads and a small section of the arms and steering wheel :)

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/Dnano/Fovea3d/090514RenaultsSCX/dnanorenaults11.jpg
http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/Dnano/Fovea3d/090514RenaultsSCX/dnanorenaults12.jpg
[IMG]

More pics here (http://www.nanospeeders.com/forum_z/index.php?showtopic=1371)

Marcro
08-04-2009, 09:31 PM
NICE! Thank you for posting those pics! I'm even more intrigued by the Pug 206 now. I even saw a plastic body of the first gen RX7 in racing form! Might get that if indeed it's plastic. His description on his listing was confusing.
It look's like some custom wheels will need to be made to make it look right for each of those bodies. But I do like what I see and I think it's pretty cool you were able to keep the drivers! Makes it more fun that way!
I find it odd how very similar the Saab car look's a lot like the Le Man's cars we already have. Then again, I suppose a lot of those cars looked similar back then.
I have yet to see what's so special about the MR3 chassis? But am interested in seeing new Le Man's type bodies! Still hope they do one of the classic Ferrari's!

fovea3d
08-04-2009, 10:02 PM
I say keep an eye on 1/32 slotcar models of tiny cars. They will fit the Dnano chassis with the Murcielago/Enzo etc setup.
Slotcar bodies are tough, they are made to survives crashes so they are perfect for RC racing as well.
The choice is endless (http://users.teledisnet.be/web/fbo02001/slotcar.htm)

Marcro
08-05-2009, 07:30 PM
I would have thought of 1/32 as being too big for the Dnano as it's 1/43. I'd be interested in the new Mini Cooper S, but at 1/32 it is too big. I had wanted to use it on a 1/32 CRT chassis I had a while back which was bigger than the Dnano.
I'll have a look at these other models. Would be cool to have some classic Ferrari's and what not that are not yet available in Dnano format. Did I see a Lotus Elise in that group there? That would be sweet as there are none for 1/24 size.

Marcro
08-05-2009, 08:01 PM
Okay, I have just searched through ebay for 1/32 scale slot cars and have found numerous cars that would be awesome on a Dnano. Example, a Lotus Exige racing car, a Renault R5 Turbo, and the classic Le Man's Ferrari 512 I think it is? Look's similar to the 917?
Anyway, I'm just curious if I purchased these slot cars, how to make theme fit the Dnano and would the wheels be suitable? Seems to me the 1/43 scale wheels would be too small on these bodies? Then I'm thinking of the aluminum wheels sold by Real Track's and wonder how those will fit these bodies.
A Renault R5 Turbo is one of my favorite compact sports cars and that would make for a sweet little Dnano car! Then again, so would the Exige! WOW!

fovea3d
08-05-2009, 08:04 PM
I would have thought of 1/32 as being too big for the Dnano as it's 1/43. I'd be interested in the new Mini Cooper S, but at 1/32 it is too big. I had wanted to use it on a 1/32 CRT chassis I had a while back which was bigger than the Dnano.
I'll have a look at these other models. Would be cool to have some classic Ferrari's and what not that are not yet available in Dnano format. Did I see a Lotus Elise in that group there? That would be sweet as there are none for 1/24 size.

Most of them ARE too big. I would never order a 1/32 slotcar for Dnano conversion without checking the actual dimensions. Only tiny cars would fit, like the Smart car, Fiat 500, Mini-Cooper (the old one). Or the 2 cars that I bought.
Its all about checking the wheelbase of the 1/1 car on Wikipedia, divide it by 32 and compare to the Dnano chassis.

fovea3d
08-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Ferrari 512 wheelbase = 2500 mm in 1/1 = 78 mm in 1/32.
Your slotcar body would have a 78mm WB while the Dnano chassis WB is 63 mm (Murcie). Missing 15mm.
Renault 5 Turbo wheelbase = 2430 mm in 1/1 = 76 mm in 1/32.
Your slotcar body would have a 76mm WB while the Dnano chassis WB is 63 mm (Murcie). Missing 13mm.
Etc.

BUT

Fiat 500 wheelbase = 1840 mm in 1/1 = 58 mm in 1/32.
Your slotcar body would have a 58 mm WB while the Dnano chassis WB is 63 mm (Murcie). Would be OK with shorter setting (Porsche 917, 911 etc).

Anyway soon we will have the HPI racing 1/32 chassis to fit all the 1/32 slotcar bodies we can imagine.
Its great to think that from the 1/43 Dnano to the Mini-z we now have 3 hobby grade chassis to choose from to adapt any plastic model car from 1/43 to 1/24.

Marcro
08-05-2009, 09:07 PM
Smart 4-2 you mean? I'd love to have an RC of that! Is there a 1/32 slot car Smart 4-2, can you show me? I tried to make a 1/25th scale body fit the Lit but it didn't work to well.
I don't think it's just a wheel base issue, I'm seeing Dnano wheels being too small for 1/32. But, "micro-cars" like the Smart 4-2 should be right! I'd presume you would want the HM Dnano for the Smart, and/or classic Mini Cooper.

lornecherry
08-06-2009, 01:24 AM
I thought the R/C version and the regular Smart 4/2 were the same size

lornecherry
08-06-2009, 01:29 AM
...on a more serious note ...I did see a Carerra 1/43 slot car track kit with Mario Kart and another Nintendo character, Wario I think. The dealer said the cars were not available without the track though. The entire set was $99 Canadian ...I almost bought it just to see if I could retrofit the Nintendo characters. An extra servo to toss bananas on the track also crossed my mind.

fovea3d
08-06-2009, 02:01 AM
Smart 4-2 you mean? I'd love to have an RC of that! Is there a 1/32 slot car Smart 4-2, can you show me? I tried to make a 1/25th scale body fit the Lit but it didn't work to well.
I don't think it's just a wheel base issue, I'm seeing Dnano wheels being too small for 1/32. But, "micro-cars" like the Smart 4-2 should be right! I'd presume you would want the HM Dnano for the Smart, and/or classic Mini Cooper.
Don't know of any Smart 4-2 slotcar sorry.

About the wheel issue there is none. In fact the Dnano wheels seem to be oversized and they happen to be exactly the size of the stock wheels on the two slotcars that I have. Only the tires are thicker on the slotcars. This is because on classic cars the wheels were smaller (13'' or so) with thicker tires. Think of Mini-z classic wheels, Dnano wheels look like classic wheels at 1/32. I will need to make custom tires though, out of foam probably.

Choosing between HM and MM really depends on the wheelbase needed. but I prefer MM for stability. My two slotcar bodies will use the MM setup.

Marcro
08-06-2009, 03:57 PM
I'm wondering about the Renault R5 Turbo. One car I really wish Kyosho would make for the MR15 HM chassis. That would be a sweet car.

patrick38
08-06-2009, 06:01 PM
i have been following this post
and found something intresting too
what do you people think of this
its scx compact slot cars 1:43 and you got a lot of them
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/zeester36/143nascar02.jpg
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/zeester36/143nascar05.jpg
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/zeester36/143nascar13.jpg
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/zeester36/SCX37020A.jpg
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/zeester36/crimages.jpg
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae318/zeester36/crimages1.jpg

jdob
08-06-2009, 06:49 PM
I bought a 2-Pack of the blue Red Bull Audi and the red Benz DTM cars on clearance at Target for $15.00. I messed with them for just a minute, but they seem to be just a tiny bit narrow for my Porsche 962 based dNaNo. Also the wheelbase is off by just about 2mm. If we could purchase the inner body mounts found in the autoscale chassis seperately - these would be an easy fit I think???

Justin

Marcro
08-06-2009, 07:58 PM
I have one of their Mini Cooper S bodies and it's too narrow. The chassis fit's inside the body nicely, with an RM set up, but the track is too wide. Would need the narrowest of narrow Dnano track-width's, probably their Lancia Delta model might work. When I rest the Mini Cooper on the chassis, it look's like a Low-Rider with the wheels sticking two feet out. Not the look I'm after guy's! LOL!
If I get around to it, I'll post a picture of it here. The Mini Cooper S in 1/43 scale is pretty small!

fovea3d
08-06-2009, 08:39 PM
Marc. The Dnano Delta is 44 mm wide. Just check your Mini Cooper.
Maybe you just need to buy the rear hubs and front plates.
Thanks Patrick, nice find! The 2-Pack is perfect. I hope SCX will expand the 1/43 range.

Marcro
08-06-2009, 10:13 PM
I just picked up from ebay for 120 dollars the white Subaru WRX WRC 2006 Dnano car! I've been wanting one for the longest time and had to snatch it up at that price! :D

Marcro
08-07-2009, 06:07 PM
Just saw posted on ebay today from my favorite source, the Audi R8 "Unpainted-unassembled" body, AND! For you Gallardo fan's, an Unassembled Lamborghini Gallardo body as well! The listing says the Gallardo is unpainted, but it look's yellow. Perhaps it's molded in yellow but not painted? Their priced at $20 plus shipping from Hobby Japan.
I'm not a fan of the Gallardo my self, but is nice to see more and more bodies available for these micro wonders.
The Audi R8 is definitely a blank white body, no doubt about that.

arch2b
08-07-2009, 08:49 PM
marc, please take the time to rear around here a bit ;). the white bodies are old news at this point.

Marcro
08-08-2009, 10:28 AM
Yes, they maybe old news, but they are now available on ebay from Hobby Japan, that was my point, point was their available now! :D

quarterpound
09-26-2009, 12:31 AM
Yeah, I'm late to this party, but very excited. I'm just starting in dNano and love these plastic model kit bodies. Now all we need is a definitive list of chassis widths (the wheelbases are already provided by Kyosho). Does one already exist? If not, I can probably go down to the shop here in HK and measure them all with calipers. They have almost every model on display.

arch2b
09-26-2009, 11:26 AM
Yeah, I'm late to this party, but very excited. I'm just starting in dNano and love these plastic model kit bodies. Now all we need is a definitive list of chassis widths (the wheelbases are already provided by Kyosho). Does one already exist? If not, I can probably go down to the shop here in HK and measure them all with calipers. They have almost every model on display.

i've painstakingly assembled a lineup (http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24053) of the offically released bodies and all the info that appears from the specific model webpage. this gets updated with every new body that appears in english on the kyosho jpn website.

quarterpound
09-27-2009, 10:17 PM
i've painstakingly assembled a lineup (http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24053) of the offically released bodies and all the info that appears from the specific model webpage. this gets updated with every new body that appears in english on the kyosho jpn website.

Nice. I'd looked at this page earlier and didn't notice there were technical specs. I'll compile these into a quick reference page and add wheelbase data. That should help when determining the best chassis for various custom bodies. If you can use any other assistance from me with your list, let me know.

As far as I can tell (only been looking at these for three days) -- the chassis and fitting parts are all almost identical? The only differences in the fitting parts are width. Then the battery/electronics case has a chassis-specific spacer on it -- the same part that connects to the body shell. And then each nose clip has a chassis-specific number too. When I get a chance I'll measure them to be sure, but it's a pain that these are fixed parts. I bought an HM mount to try and convert my 404 chassis to fit some Heller plastic models, but now the wheelbase is actually ever so slightly too short for some of them. So I'm looking at crafting some replacement rear suspension plates of different lengths, to try and make a one-size-fits-most chassis. In the future I'lll still need a 911 GT3 chassis to accommodate the narrowness of some vintage bodies without permanent alterations. I hope an aftermarket manufacturer thinks of making some custom-length plates out of carbon fiber for us. Seems the easiest way to do this.

arch2b
09-28-2009, 07:46 PM
i'd love to get your help in compiling data for the lineup. let me know what you come up with and i'll see where we can put it up if you would like.

it's only a matter of time before we get more h plate options.

quarterpound
10-01-2009, 04:38 AM
As it turns out, the whole thing is much easier than I thought. But having all the data laid out will make it much easier for everyone. To start with, the Body Mount set is all that matters for controlling wheelbase length. Some aftermarket clips would be nice, especially for mounting vintage American bodies with extreme overhang in front. But with the available mount kits, one should be able to mount any coupe, stock racing, 2+2, and most small 4-door bodies that we can find in 1:43 scale. Best of all the mount kits are very cheap. Previously I had the foolish impression that every actual battery chassis was a different length; now I realize that mounting any body on any chassis is actually quite simple: just measure the body's wheelbase and compare with the chassis spec chart. Then use the corresponding Body Mount set. No custom H-plate necessary! For maximum balance, you'll want to spring for appropriate fitting kits -- or their aluminum equivalents are perhaps more fairly priced. That way you can ensure the best wheel placement. Also, I'm pretty sure some dremelling of the wheel wells will be necessary, especially for vintage models. Can't wait to get started now.

About compiling these data, did you want to make an HTML table, or a plain text table? Or would you prefer them in CSV format? Perhaps I'll just start with a plain text post.

Marcro
10-16-2009, 05:15 PM
Mind if I post mine under here as it's also a custom body? Or will be? Got this today! A model of my very first car back when I was 14 years young! This is a 1/32 scale kit from ARII.
1970 "Mine was '72" Honda Z Coup
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09844.jpg
Being it's a small car, I thought that it just might fit my 1/43 scale RC Dnanos! And from the look's of the following pictures, it just might with some clever mods!
Murcielago chassis is just barely long enough to work:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09845.jpg
But track width too wide.
Porsche chassis width is perfect, but too short:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09847.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09848.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09849.jpg
It look's like I'll need another Dnano chassis with a combination of parts and with an HM "high-mount" motor mount for it to fit inside the body.
This look's like it'll be a fun project!

arch2b
10-16-2009, 05:28 PM
it looks like a simple fix with a DIY hplate. simply cut an old credit card or the like to the right length using the appropriate trackwidth chassis. it's the same old issue with mini-z modding. you can line up the track width but he wheelbases always seems to be off. all that was needed is a custom length h plate. it doesn't have to be cf or anything fancy. i've been using lexan hplates for mini-z hfay racing for the last year or more. just make sure you have the damper or a foam block as custom hplates are typically very soft.

Marcro
10-16-2009, 06:12 PM
Hi there arch, and thank's for the tip. I'll probably get another Dnano chassis some time in the future just for this project. It'll be an HM for sure.
Here's a picture of the real one I used to have:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Model%20cars/img151.jpg

Marcro
10-17-2009, 04:53 PM
Motor mount off and pretending custom H-plate in place. And removed the front body clip as it's too long for this bod. This gives you a better look at how it will come together.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09850.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09851.jpg
Rear view. You can see why this'll need HM type.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09852.jpg
Right now it look's like the rear wheels are sticking out, but it's not really like that. It's just sitting that way because the motor mount is in the way and not letting it sit in the proper position. But trust me, it is the perfect width for this body.
I'm going to have to make a custom nose clip for this one as the Dnano one won't work here.
I'm thinking 19's all around will work on this one! :D

nalves
10-18-2009, 12:06 PM
Also found an old Heller 1/43 kit. This one fits the Murcielago chassis perfectly. Funny the Sauber Mercedes is also the first body to be released with the new Mini-z chassis MR03...

http://www.nanospeeders.com/photos/Dnano/Fovea3d/090604mercedesc9/c9.jpg

Hi, can you post the final photos of this custom built? And what did you use to secure the body? That's one i'm interrested too.

Nuno

fovea3d
10-18-2009, 12:51 PM
Hi Nalves! Sorry I did not find the time to paint this one yet. I will probably use foam blocks (RCP track material type) and lateral screws to secure the body, the same way I did with the Supra http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23887

Marcro
10-18-2009, 02:44 PM
I recently saw on ebay two more 1/43 scale model kit's. The WRC Ford Focus, much like the original AutoScale was, and the Peugoet 206 WRC model. I'm thinking of getting both and doing the Pug like that Mini Power one!
I'm still waiting on my Renault R5-Turbo to come in.

nalves
10-18-2009, 02:50 PM
Hi Nalves! Sorry I did not find the time to paint this one yet. I will probably use foam blocks (RCP track material type) and lateral screws to secure the body, the same way I did with the Supra http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23887

Thanks!

Nuno

Marcro
10-18-2009, 06:56 PM
Hey naives, I can't wait to see that Le Man's car put together! Would look great sitting next to the 962 and 917's.
Keep us posted on it's progress! :D
Sounds like you should paint it up to match the MR03 and get one to match! :)
Always cool to have matching cars in different scales!

Marcro
10-26-2009, 03:36 PM
Hey guy's! Check out ebay item number 140324180533. It is a plastic model kit of the Acura NSX super car and it is pre-painted gray. It's 1/43 scale and would make for a nice Dnano body. I'm tempted to get one, but $50 seems a bit much.

fovea3d
10-26-2009, 03:58 PM
Hey guy's! Check out ebay item number 140324180533. It is a plastic model kit of the Acura NSX super car and it is pre-painted gray. It's 1/43 scale and would make for a nice Dnano body. I'm tempted to get one, but $50 seems a bit much.
Thats interesting, a bit pricey though. Good point it is already painted.
IMO the NSX is a potential future dNaNo ASC, at least the racing versions given the mini-z lineup so I would not choose that body, but it would be interesting to know what other cars this brand "Rosso Model Kit" makes.

Marcro
10-26-2009, 04:21 PM
I've found several great 1/43 scale plastic model kit's from Heller. I've got three on the way. The Renault R5-Turbo, Ford Focus WRC, just like the original AutoScale, and the Peugoet 206 WRC. This morning while searching ebay, I came across a Porsche 928 also from Heller which I've placed a bid on.
Some progress reports on my little Honda.Body work has begun. I used a styrene plastic sheet for front and rear bumper's. I will use this as a background for building the body kit using Milliput. I'll also use the Milliput for molding in the side skirts. http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09863.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09864.jpg

Marcro
10-26-2009, 06:38 PM
Some Milliput put in place.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09865.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09866.jpg
Waiting for it to dry, and then some sanding to give it some shape!

boohoo
10-28-2009, 06:37 PM
got myself a 1/43 camaro ss body for my dnano and so i could use my centreline wheels iam having to use a custom h-plate that will be made in carbon fibre later on only one pic for now still working on some stuff but you get the idea also need to change the side mount as it is setup for the porsche body i have

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/boohoo_2008/281020091417.jpg

RealTracks
10-28-2009, 09:13 PM
Wow BooHoo !!! I think that is the best combo of centerlines and body I have seen yet. Is that body plastic. I have been wanting to do a whole classic Trans-Am Series of the late 60's in the dNaNo scale. You are bringing back some memorys with that 69.

Marcro
10-29-2009, 11:12 AM
Now THAT is where those wheels belong! Yes, way to go man! I'd like to see this one finished! Cheers! :D
It look's plastic to me!

arch2b
10-29-2009, 01:19 PM
i know the centerline wheels are bland but i happen to like them alot. they were my first choice of aluma-tech wheels.

Marcro
10-29-2009, 01:58 PM
I wouldn't say their bland, it just depends on the body their placed on. Boohoo's example of that classic Muscle Car is dead on for these wheels.

boohoo
10-29-2009, 04:34 PM
the body is a amt/ertl part no 6905. iam hoping to have some more done to it by next week and hopefully some paint on it aswell

fovea3d
10-29-2009, 04:48 PM
the body is a amt/ertl part no 6905. iam hoping to have some more done to it by next week and hopefully some paint on it aswell

Nice project boohoo and excellent choice of rims. I know this body, I adapt it once to a Epoch 1/43. You can see it on the first page of this thread (blue one). Amt/ertl 1/43 kits are perfect for the dnano chassis.

RealTracks
10-29-2009, 07:22 PM
Thanks for the Part# boohoo, you've got me scouring ebay for 60's TA series cars. I designed some dNaNo universal body mounts a few months back in CAD, now I have some motivation to mill them out.

boohoo
10-30-2009, 03:01 PM
Thanks for the Part# boohoo, you've got me scouring ebay for 60's TA series cars. I designed some dNaNo universal body mounts a few months back in CAD, now I have some motivation to mill them out.

np`s. if your going to sell the mounts i would buy some from you as i cant figure that part out yet but if not i will figure something out

RealTracks
10-30-2009, 10:33 PM
I have a universal design that works in SolidWorks, which means I will only have to change it 5 more times until it really works. If it functions well, I will throw them up on the site for minimal cost for anyone interested.

Marcro
10-30-2009, 10:59 PM
How will these universal mount's work? A sample picture would be appreciated. I've got several projects on hold that could use these I'm sure.

RealTracks
10-30-2009, 11:26 PM
I took a look but I think the part file is on my computer at the shop. It basically works like a epoch body mount. The main difference is instead of a pin behind the front wheel, the universal mount cradles the sides of the dNaNo chassis. The rear pin is used to locate the body mount for and aft. The width of the T plate bracket (I forgot kyoshos name for it) does not matter because the only contact with it is concentric with its hole and the body mount pin.
I think you really need to see the 3d model to get it.

RealTracks
10-31-2009, 02:52 PM
I could not find the original but here is the basic idea. The concept is to pivot the body on laterlly, (Hook the right side then bring the left side down). A epoch stlye front bumber would replace the current front mount.
I can also cut out varying length T plates for wheel base adjustments. Now you have me thinking about puting all three items in one package to include the side spacers shown.

http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtracks_pics/body_mount_dnano.jpg

Marcro
10-31-2009, 03:41 PM
We should design an adjustable T-plate that can slide forward and back some how for various bodies! Looking good!

boohoo
10-31-2009, 04:34 PM
I could not find the original but here is the basic idea. The concept is to pivot the body on laterlly, (Hook the right side then bring the left side down). A epoch stlye front bumber would replace the current front mount.
I can also cut out varying length T plates for wheel base adjustments. Now you have me thinking about puting all three items in one package to include the side spacers shown.

http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtracks_pics/body_mount_dnano.jpg

like i said before if you make this i will defo buy some the possibility of bodys you could have is endless thanks for the image its god to see how it would work

fovea3d
10-31-2009, 07:24 PM
I took a look but I think the part file is on my computer at the shop. It basically works like a epoch body mount. The main difference is instead of a pin behind the front wheel, the universal mount cradles the sides of the dNaNo chassis. The rear pin is used to locate the body mount for and aft. The width of the T plate bracket (I forgot kyoshos name for it) does not matter because the only contact with it is concentric with its hole and the body mount pin.
I think you really need to see the 3d model to get it.

Great design! I am all for it and would buy a few. Various length T plates would be awsome. I tried to cut some from a carbon plate but it is much more difficult than for the Z, particulary the holes must have the exact Ø to fit the screw posts.
I wonder if an adjustable T plate is feasible, one with two slits at the pod side but it would only work with MM ( and maybe HM) because the motor is lower on the RM and would block it from sliding.

Edit: a quick mockup
http://www.nanospeeders.com/images/dnano-T.jpg

Marcro
10-31-2009, 08:25 PM
Kind of what I was thinking Fovea! I would think RM would require some sort of spacer perhaps?

RealTracks
11-01-2009, 12:54 AM
One of my smaller CNC's should be able to meet the required tolerance. I am in the process of upgrading the electronics on that one, but as soon as it’s back up I can knock some of these out. I don’t see why the adjustable mount would not work.
Racking and alignment could be an issue when tightening the small screws but it certainly could be overcome. I would be a little concerned about the torque requirement of those small screws to keep the pod secured in the slots vs. the stock holes. If it is an issue, it would be cheap to knock out a whole set of different length fixed plates.
I designed this one to try and eliminate what appears to be inside wheel hop on right hand corners only. I wanted to keep the rear soft but gain some torsional rigidity. (Kind of like a rear sway bar effect). I am not very knowledgeable on the fine points of tuning a dNaNo rear but thought I would try this.
This thread has strayed from the dnano gallery, maybe it should be somewhere else.

http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtracks_pics/dnano_T_plate_anti_roll.jpg

arch2b
11-01-2009, 09:35 AM
it may be easier in the end to simply do a collection of plates in various standard lengths. slots will simply be prone to slippage and racking unless you use spaced holes vs. slots.
it would seem simple to keep the chassis screw point stationary and extend the plate past the motor mount with holes at every few mm's.

Marcro
11-01-2009, 10:48 AM
I had the very same concern about those slot's but didn't want to take away from the idea. I've seen some slot's that had drilled holes in them to keep the screws lined up, but I think those were fragile and that was on larger cars as well. Would be too delicate on something this size.
Only problem with various plates is that the difference in length would have to be very tiny, and you'd have to have a ton of them to accommodate all the different models out there. Still, I'm all for anything to help adapt model kit's. I've got four on the way..................

fovea3d
11-01-2009, 01:14 PM
Well a slot adjustable pod was on use on the Epoch spec2 and I never had a problem with it. The Epoch was not fast tough, but washers could be used on the dNaNo to prevent slippage.
http://nanospeeders.com/images/epoch-T.jpg

Another way would be an extender, basically a rigid rectangle with 4 holes, this one could be made in several length. The advantage is you can use the standard size T plates, stock, carbon, different hardness.

This is a Mini-z version of an extender I use with super long bodies.Works perfect.
http://nanospeeders.com/images/extender.jpg

I agree with Marc, making different length of T plates would be too much, especially if you want them soft, medium and hard.

RealTracks
11-01-2009, 01:25 PM
The epoch has a index seration as I recall. But I think you are right about making it work. I also agree with Arch about the straight slots, however a slight change could make it effective. I will try and post 2 new designs for comment tonight specific to this.
One is a modified slot with serrations similar to Favs Idea. The other is a independent hole design like arch suggest. Independent hole spacing is probably limited to .075” on centers. If you use 4 different plates each offset .015” from each other you can achieve any spacing your want with a 0.015” step. The overall adjustment range is only limited to how many holes you want to have in each plate. Since we are making parts anyway a new T plate carrier could be made also with adjustment built into it. Good thread and exchange of idea’s going on here.

boohoo
11-01-2009, 02:57 PM
heres what ive done so far to make some mounts for my camaro dont need a front clip as it seems to hold pretty tight now i just need a h plate to finish this bit then paint time

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/boohoo_2008/011120091435.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/boohoo_2008/011120091434.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/boohoo_2008/011120091433.jpg

RealTracks
11-01-2009, 09:05 PM
Boohoo,
What is keping the front secure?
Here is a combined option, indexed at .060 increments. Might be able to take it down to .040. Three diferent plates could get you your choice of .015 increments. But then as Fav said, you have the multiple tuning plates to deal with.

http://miles219th.tripod.com/realtracks_pics/dnano_t_plate_adj1.jpg

Marcro
11-01-2009, 09:20 PM
I like that design best RealTrack's. I wonder how strong the points are between the connecting circles?

arch2b
11-01-2009, 09:47 PM
i'd be concerned that the material separating the holes would get sheered in a collision. this is all opinion as the size, weight of the dnano is soo small. but overall, that is what i was describing. a series of holes for various common wheelbase lengths. there is typically plenty of room for expansion of the plate under the motor mount.

RealTracks
11-01-2009, 09:56 PM
It all depends on the material. I would be more concerend with the material caming out of the way and the slot spreading if the screw were loose than a tip breaking. I have used a similar araingment in more industrial aplications with success.

RealTracks
11-01-2009, 10:03 PM
I think we were posting at the same time Arch. Only testing can tell on some of this stuff. If it were just a srew in the slot I dont think it would work, But its actually a good size pin that the plate sits over. I'll give it a try when I get the small CNC up.

boohoo
11-02-2009, 11:35 AM
@ realtracks there is nothing right know securing the front end iam going to try and use the front bumper to secure it somehow and some more pics of the car with custom h-plate for now

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/boohoo_2008/011120091444.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/boohoo_2008/011120091446.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/boohoo_2008/011120091447.jpg

Marcro
11-02-2009, 12:15 PM
Looking good there! How soft is that plate and have you driven it like that yet?

boohoo
11-02-2009, 01:42 PM
its not that soft but soft enough to make it work like i need and it drives just like a normal dnano made a front mont out of the subabru front clip so now i have a front clip holder that works pics later on

Marcro
11-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Here are updates to my little Honda Z Coupe.More updates and a revision. I spread out the distance between the exhaust pipes more like my real one and gave the rear bumper a "slot". Going to try and incorporate the slot with body holder.
Also started slot and fog-lamp areas for the front bumper.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09889.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09890.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g184/marq74/Dnano/DSC09891.jpg
This is all done with eye-balling so it probably isn't perfectly symmetrical yet! I'm finding out just how tough this Milliput stuff really is! Which for this application is a good thing!
Yea, it looks ugly. But then again, aren't all projects?

RealTracks
11-02-2009, 05:23 PM
I really, really like that look boohoo. put some of the wider PN's on, and your golden. I am suprised how much you had to extend the T plate. With all that distance to cover we will have to make sure its stiff enough. I am definitely going to do that late 60's Trans-Am Series now. Great informative pics !! Thanks

boohoo
11-02-2009, 06:09 PM
I really, really like that look boohoo. put some of the wider PN's on, and your golden. I am suprised how much you had to extend the T plate. With all that distance to cover we will have to make sure its stiff enough. I am definitely going to do that late 60's Trans-Am Series now. Great informative pics !! Thanks

thanks man thats what i need to hear just to keep me going. ive now changed the h-plate a to a carbon one made out of 1mm carbon 6k twill weave that i had lying around so its pretty stiff but still has some give iam also going to make one out of 0.5 mm stuff i have just so i have something that may make it drive differently. the tyres are next on my list goin to get some diff grip level ones aswell

akura2
06-08-2010, 12:08 AM
I hate to dig up old threads, but when something THIS interesting dies for no reason, it HAS to be resurrected...

any new finds/news?

arch2b
06-19-2010, 09:15 PM
thanks for hitting up this thread.

i happened to be snooping some jpn sites and found some cheap plastic kits that could make nice custom bodies.

doyusha 1/43 plastic kits
lamborghini reventon
lamborghini super leggera
ford shelby gt500 super snake
ford gt

these are for sale at HLJ for about $9.