Mr BigShot's Must See Upgrade's

[Mr BigShot]

I wont let you down ! ! !

[Mr BigShot]

More Pic comin

[chrishidalgo]

is that a mini-z motor?

[Mr BigShot]

#3

[Mr BigShot]

2 11 tooth gears stacked on the blue Gear

[Mr BigShot]

Metal Axels

[josh350zman]

How did you make those axils??? I'd love a couple pare if you want to make some more??? How much???

[Mr BigShot]

More metal axels still need to find away to make joints

[Mr BigShot]

My Xmod Work Area in basement away from Wife LOL:D

[Bad Company]

Nice little collection you got there. ;)

[chrishidalgo]

was there anything else you had to put in to make it work, and whats that orange thing in some of the pics

[Mr BigShot]

The orange thing is a connector i have two one for + and one for - for my six cell upgrade of course :p The only other thing is allot of modifing to get the middle gear to stay put , and making something to hold the motor in place . It's kinda a rough job right now but i plan to make it simpler . If you look at the motor under the 2 brass clamps I have holding it down I had to cut up some Xmod tires for the rubber to help hold it in place . The nexted time I take it apart I will get more detailed Pics for ya . It's just the thing is running so smoothly"AND FAST " right now I dont want to take it back apart . I have to move my six cell from under the roof to the back bumper .

[Mr BigShot]

Two motor's nexted to each other .

[Mr BigShot]

I'm still working on it tho

[Mr BigShot]

Two 11 tooth stack so you have clearance for bigger motor

[Joey]

So...it's an HPI motor, which oscillates at how many rpm?
Is it that great? I'm clearly not well-informed.

[Mr BigShot]

Hello - I've been trying to find thge Rpm's for ya but been having no luck . I was hoping to here from NEURO on this . Was wondering what he tought ? Also I found a bigger motor called the Team Orion Big Block for $37.00 bucks that I will be getting 2 . finally the best I can tell ya for know is that these motors are for a RC car called a Micro RS4 and that is a 1/18 scale car . So i'am quessing that since I'am putting a 1/18 scale motor in a 1/28 scale car it's going to fly FLY "FLY" ! ! ! ! ! You should hear this motor it just sounds fast !!!

[TypeZer0]

i hope it doesnt' draw too much current or you'll fry your fets and will need to do neuro's external fet upgrade. that thing should have the torque and rpm's to simply rip apart the drivetrain, from the gears to the diff to the wheels themselves lol. if it doesn't rip apart the drivetrain, hope you got the traction to put that power down. i like how you're using another gear between the motor and the bevel gear, that means the motor will run in the intended direction. good luck with it and keep us posted!

[neurokinetik]

Nice, those are some innovative mods!

Making that round motor fit looks a bit more difficult than the 260 motor idea I had, which wouldn't require the extra gear. I think the best way to make that motor work is by making a custom aluminium motor mount so that the motor can be fastened securely, and also the shaft for the second gear can be attached to the mount as well.

The metal axles are a great idea. I wouldn't be surprised if something like that starts getting mass-produced.

[xxspeednplayaxx]

hey neurokinetic, ive heard youve got that external fet mod going... hows the performance, what are the codes for them, and also with your orion stock 180 motor, how did you rebuild it, did you simply deduct winds?


btw i want to see your best vs a miniz with nmls best should be a good 1

[Mr BigShot]

You'll see Y in my nexted PIC " BIG BLOCK "

[Mr BigShot]

This is a Team Orion BIG BLOCK pretty sure know one has used a bigger motor in an Xmod to date ! The middle one was my last motor. It's sold allready tho :D

[neurokinetik]

Originally posted by Mr BigShot
This is a Team Orion BIG BLOCK pretty sure know one has used a bigger motor in an Xmod to date ! The middle one was my last motor. It's sold allready tho :D

OK, it should be interesting to see how you plan to fit that into an XMod, and still run the stock body without having to resort to a body lift. :D

Originally posted by xxspeednplayaxx
hey neurokinetic, ive heard youve got that external fet mod going... hows the performance, what are the codes for them, and also with your orion stock 180 motor, how did you rebuild it, did you simply deduct winds?


FET mod doesn't really make much difference in performance, it just allows for hotter motors. I have three different Team Orion 180 motors right now. One is stock, one is hand wound with 30 turns of 26Ga, and the other is handwound with 35 turns of 28Ga. Previously, I had used one with 10 turns removed from stock. That was a really good combo.

Originally posted by xxspeednplayaxx
btw i want to see your best vs a miniz with nmls best should be a good 1

I'm still waiting for that matchup to happen. Actually, I want to run an NML XMod first.

[newbitowner]

i emailed you about those metal joint cups you made

[FastRSX]

You guys need to look at a Peak Turbo Coreless Micro Modified. It's just a little longer (1-1/8 long, 1-3/8 with shaft, and 53/64 dia.) then a 130 but will still fit in a RSX. The only problem is that it's also round needing an idler. I purchased this motor for my Losi Mini-T, which it will not work in. It propelled the little truck very well but not fast enough.

[Mr BigShot]

Here's a pic of my Big Block in my car still not done yet having a problem with when I turn my car on the servo turm s to one side and dosent work . I have to look at it later tho wife wont let me right now :mad:

[Tripleplay905]

You have a $H!T LOAD of XMODS!!!!!!!

[Mr BigShot]

And still pletty of room under stock body "supra"I also took it for a test run tonight wasn't fully happy with it "not fast enough" So I took AWD off going to test it again tomarrow if It dont't snow :D I had a problem with ball diff seemed to slip :eek:

[TypeZer0]

yeah, the xmod's ball diff blows, it slips too easily. take the regular gear diff and pack it with the awd grease

[striker289]

U should make it a muscle car since u have the big block get a impala or a big chevy and pack a 6 cell in and get wide rims andn tires.

[NOS man]

yo MR. bIgsHot. how did u get the pinion off the motor?

[Mr BigShot]

Just use a pinion puller . You can get them at your local hobbie shop or order them off the web .

[NOS man]

k but i need a way i can get it off without a puller

[tavisjohn]

A Puller is the only safe/reliable way to remove a pinion. There are other methods, however you could remove it by force, but you run the risk of ruining the motor you are removing the pinion from. Some have posed that if you heat the pinion you may be able to remove it, but no one has claimed success with that method yet. I'll be getting a pinion puller myself. (Unless I can find some replacement pinions)

[NOS man]

ok thanks but if anyone has any ideas, tell me...

[Mr BigShot]

Glad to See I made it in the Science section :D I have messed with my Xmods in a week :( cause I've been buzy buyin a new car :D I got a Honda Element <--- looks like a Mini H2 Hummer

[Mr BigShot]

I improved my set up for holding the second gear It's not done yet , but I have been so buzy . With this set up I think I might be able to get some real small bearings to hold the second gear shaft too. I also have a few more idea's for some pretty cool stuff in my head but haven't had time to produce anything yet :D

[neurokinetik]

Looks promising. Keep those ideas coming...

[h22ah]

dude stop messing aroung and just :bdrop in a 540 or even a 550:D:

[3series takumi]

what are you doin about the gear ratio though, the 180 motors are not that much faster than 130 but they have loads more torque. you could put that extra torque to use

[Cian]

That big TO motor, is that the same size as a speed 300???

[Cyslyde]

Originally posted by Mr BigShot
Here's a pic of my Big Block in my car still not done yet having a problem with when I turn my car on the servo turm s to one side and dosent work . I have to look at it later tho wife wont let me right now :mad:

did you ever fix this? I am having the same problem, but haven't had time to tear that car apart... if i know what i'm looking for will help out alot
thanx
-=Cy

[Mr BigShot]

It was a loose wire on the servo I just resoldiered it .


Cian - Yes i belive it is " my big Block " I'am also installing The 45t in a car right now"for someone " its a little smaller.

Hey 3 series takumi - What you mean about gears I'am using a 11 tooth with my BB and a 8 tooth with my buddy 45t ANY susgestions you have will be "great" I haven't been messing with RC for that long only since the Xmods came out :D

Today I went to the local Kar Tunes <--- car audio installation shop to get some more wire and they give me a great way to make your power cables look SWEET !! You just take one black wire and one red wireand put one end into a vice "tight" Then you take the other two ends and put them together in a drill . Hold it tight and spin it and walk towards the end in a vice It braids it up real nice :D

[Cyslyde]

man i havn't seen anybody twist wires like that for awile :) hehe your right that does work great tho. and thanx about that wire, which one was it specifically if you remember?

[Mr BigShot]

This is the diagram that I used . I got it from a guy named Chino over at xmodrc 's forum . He is a proud member of "DSR" Drunkin Style Racein. To make it eazy what this does is let you run around 5 volts to your circuit board and any where from 10 to 12 volts to your motor :eek: Oh yea and if you want to go with more Volts you can add more batt's , but I useing 8 AAA's right now and you don't want to really go any heavier.Oh yea almost forgot I have the thing all wired up and this thing flies :D now I just haved to get 8 cell's under a RSX body Here's some pics

[Mr BigShot]

5.30

[Mr BigShot]

10.71 also I'am using 8 IC3's just so you know you can use 8 1.5 's also to get 12 volts it wont harm the board at all :D

[neurokinetik]

Relays are another idea I had that I hadn't gotten around to trying yet...

[Mr BigShot]

I have so many ideas and 6 cars to mess with just don't have the time . I going to get two more relays tomarrow and relay up my Big Block cant wait to see how fast it is :D

[Cyslyde]

I was going to try that diragram, however, there is a guy on that board named jshwaa and he has another version of that. it's smaller and looks much simpler

[xxspeednplayaxx]

OMG MR.BIGSHOT! alright so you got the 5V relays at radio shack, just a few questions
- how do you wire them up, (please make it simple to understand, im no electronics wiz lol)
- how many relays do you need
- how do the relays work
- how many volts can be put on before the relays give out, or more that 5V is put through the pcb

over at xmodworld.com this guy did the samething using 4X 540mah lipoly cells with a total output of 14.4V!!! except he wouldnt say how, please you gotta tell me were you got those realys from, and what kind they are (if you wanna keep it quiet xxspeednplayaxx@hotmail.com is my email) o please man this so totaly rocks!

those miniz's wont know what hit em

[hoopsta1423]

ya somebody definately needs to post how exactly to wire this diagram up, i saw it and wanted to do it, but i cannot read schematics, i am as we speak looking on google for a guide to reading schematics

http://tinyrc.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=159566

[10_second_supra]

hey mister big shot could you show me a pic of how the upgrade wires are atached to the baoard and tell me how you didi it. I would also apreciate a pic.

[newbitowner]

http://tinyrc.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=151488

Can you sell me one of those little pieces all the way in the right?

I think RS is back ordering them. I can't wait 3 weeks!

[Mr BigShot]

This should help everone with any ?'s on how to do this upgrade . Some tools are required to do this upgrade like a soldiering gun :DThis zip file will only work if you have print artist 8.0 . I don't know how to convert it to make it show up on the screen like the pics.

[scatmanjohn01]

it doesnt work (your download)

[hoopsta1423]

edit, didnt read your entire post?, what is print artist 8? where can i get it?

[newbitowner]

MBS, can you sell me 2 of those metal left joint cups?

[scatmanjohn01]

Hey Bigshot, did you make the axles out of those allen head bolts?

if so what size and what do i need etc.

[xxspeednplayaxx]

hey mr.bigshot, try saving it as a pdf.. when you save, select pdf as a file type

[Mr BigShot]

Here a pic of my diagram . I printed it out hope the words on it will show up . I found that if you leave the batteries in the car with it turned off over night . The power will be drained out in the morning so take your batteries out after your done useing it .

[TypeZer0]

rather than using relays (defeats the purpose of propo control) try neuro's external FET mod.

[Mr BigShot]

whats propo control ?

[xxspeednplayaxx]

im pretty sure propo is what allows you to go fast or slow and anywhere in between, (the trigger on your controller) hey mr big shot, thnx fer the pic, dose the car still function completely normally? or can you only for full power fowards or no movement (thats non prope) also how big are the relays? you dont need to put a pic, just put it in comparison to something on the xmods chassis... thnx

[scatmanjohn01]

Originally posted by TypeZer0
rather than using relays (defeats the purpose of propo control) try neuro's external FET mod.

typezero, the reason hes using relays is to run more cells AND hotter motors. If he did nero's external fet upgrade, would he only be able to run hotter motors, but only 6 cells? im prety sure..

[xxspeednplayaxx]

lol scatmanjohn01 do you now see why im confused, im being told two diffrent thing, and both ways some1 says it dosen't work... im just gunna ask the shak

[Rez]

Well, it's been a while, and this thing might work differently, but...

We built an electric car in high school. It used a speed controler (about the size of a large shoe box) that would pulsate DC current by using a relay. It didn't regulate the voltage, it just adjusted how often the circuit was on and off (more time on = more throttle). If the xmod works the same way, then the proportional throttle will translate straight through the relays. If it doesn't, then it won't. Anybody know? Am I wrong?

[neurokinetik]

Originally posted by Rez
Well, it's been a while, and this thing might work differently, but...

We built an electric car in high school. It used a speed controler (about the size of a large shoe box) that would pulsate DC current by using a relay. It didn't regulate the voltage, it just adjusted how often the circuit was on and off (more time on = more throttle). If the xmod works the same way, then the proportional throttle will translate straight through the relays. If it doesn't, then it won't. Anybody know? Am I wrong?

You are correct, sir. However, the speed at which the switching occurs might be too much for the relays to handle. It's about 300 times per second.

[Rez]

Welp, only one way to find out! lol

[Cian]

I thought relays only worked in non proprtional cars like Race Tins? If you use a relays with the big motors, you may get the mad power, but it'll still just switch on once the input voltage crosses a certain threshold, am I way off??

[Rez]

The way it works is that the relay switches on and off really really fast. If it spends more time off than on, the car goes slow. If it spends more time on than off, it goes faster. This is how the proportional throttle works, it adjusts how long the switch is on and how long the switch is off, right up till it's always on at full throttle.

As Neurokenetic said, provided the relays can keep up, you'll keep your proportional throttle, even with the mod.

So what's the word, Bigshot? Can the relays handle the frequency?

To better answer your question, the relay switches one circuit on when current is applied to another. That means the 5v from the electronics can be used to close 14v to the motor, thus the sensitive electronics can control a dangerous level of voltage. The proportional speed of your car isn't controled by variable voltage, but by variable frequency. If Bigshot's relays can operate at a high enough frequency, this mod should be entirely transparent to the driver.

[Cian]

Ahh, now I Geddit, thanks Rez for clearing that one up.

So Mr B, i guess the $64,000 Question is: Does it work?

[Mr BigShot]

This set up works , but I think it is running at FULL THROTTLE ! I un hooked all my stuff so I can rewire it with better wire and THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " pic " :D

I think its time to make a drag car :D motor was $15.99 and the 20 tooth pinion was $3.50 :D

[scatmanjohn01]

what gear are you gunna use to go with 20 tooth?

[Rez]

Bigshot, when you say you think it was at full throttle, do you mean you lost the proportional steering?

[Mr BigShot]

I have steering , even tho the car has so much power it's more like drifting every where :D What I was talking about was when I press the triger to go go foward it doesn't take off slowly it takes off fast.The steering works fine .

[xxspeednplayaxx]

dude my jaw just smacked the floor, lol that is the sickest thing ive ever seen!! my only doubt would be that the plastic gears will melt when attached to that monster.... thats gotta be a 540 size.. lol if i were you , buy a motor for the hpi racers (non gas) if those go 40mph+ a xmod should easily do 50 lol

i found this site and i must say wow! some of these motors are hardcore
http://www.financialsearchgroupinc.com/electric-motors,c34061,1,ur.html
im going to my lhs with about 30bux for a motor, whats should i get (stock fets and volts arent my concern any more) what motor would the best to pop in a xmod to take advantage of a new set of powerful fets (neuro's mod) from this site i like the team orion core, tamiya dyna run and the trinity magic johnson... btw i also will be modding and screwing with my b.b.j.m (the one that was in the pix)

[Rez]

Originally posted by Mr BigShot
I have steering , even tho the car has so much power it's more like drifting every where :D What I was talking about was when I press the triger to go go foward it doesn't take off slowly it takes off fast.The steering works fine .

*smacks head* I ment to ask if you still had proportional throttle, not steering.

[Exaran]

This relay stuff made me have an idea for a nitrous mod...

Could you somehow rig a relay so it would require a full throttle signal from the electronics to flip on? Then you could hook your extra cells to the relay so they would only work if you were at full throttle.

In other words, you'd have full propo 4 cell power untill you floored it, then the extra cells would kick in.

This would kinda be like a "real" car nitrous setup. It's common to put your nitrous on a microswitch behind the gas pedal so it only kicks in when you and the engine are ready (already flooring it)

does anybody know for sure how the speed controler controls the motor? Is the voltage constant, with the signal just pulsing as mentioned above?

...i may start another thread

[aperson]

can i ask why you're still using stock electronics?

[spitty12]

The switch for nitrous oxide that goes behind the pedal does not automatically give you a shot of No2, when your are going WOT(wide open throttle) then you can hit the "N0S!1!" but not when it is onlt partial throttle.

Why would you want power that only comes on at high rpm's? It would disturb traction and power wouldn't be linear, it would be gay. Just wire in extra cells and pull harder when you want it to go faster :rolleyes:

EDIT: Sorry about thread jacking, some systems do not use the tps sensor but a switch mounted on the actual throttle plate where the cable actuated spool thing will engage the switch, this is the way it is on my friends chevy. But you can mount a switch anywhere you want to. Or if you want to get technical you can get a computer controlled system that will analyze you maf, tps, egt and adjust advance.

[Exaran]

just cause it would be a fun thing to try to do. And it wouldnt only hit at high rpm's, just whenever you pulled the throttle all the way. If you "floored" it from a dead stop you would be using the extra cells from the get go.

There are a bunch of people on here who have been trying to do a nitrous mod. This just seemed like the closest thing

...And I have seen it where the pedal switch IS what triggers the "NOS!" after you flip a saftey switch on the dash. Only ricers need a big red button on the dash for nitrous. ;)

[Yell03SpecV]

sorry guys, but there is no "pedal switch" in either case. some systems will activate after a safety switch has been thrown, but the system's computer feeds off info from the TPS and determines whether you are at 100% throttle or not.

[Rez]

Guys, please don't hijack this thread with an argument about how real life NOS works, it's not relavent.

[Yell03SpecV]

Originally posted by Rez
Guys, please don't hijack this thread with an argument about how real life NOS works, it's not relavent.

wasnt my intent... just keeping the facts out there, to STOP the thread jacking... anyways, back to the original topic.

[Exaran]

Sooo... does anybody know if there is any way to tell if you are at full throttle by reading voltage anywhere in the car? Or is there some other signal I could use to activate my relay at full throttle?

I want it to be non-linear. I wanna know "hey, there's the 'nitrous' " when it kicks in. I would only use it for straight line dashes anyway, and use the lower power propo when handling

I figure this is still a similar idea, I appologize to the admins if it is not. Just say the word and I'll make a new thread.

[Rez]

Originally posted by Exaran
Sooo... does anybody know if there is any way to tell if you are at full throttle by reading voltage anywhere in the car? Or is there some other signal I could use to activate my relay at full throttle?

I want it to be non-linear. I wanna know "hey, there's the 'nitrous' " when it kicks in. I would only use it for straight line dashes anyway, and use the lower power propo when handling

I figure this is still a similar idea, I appologize to the admins if it is not. Just say the word and I'll make a new thread.

It would be difficult. You can't read voltage to know when you're at WOT, because the voltage stays the same. The frequency of the voltage changes. Using relays in this manner would be an "always on" "nos" for you. Unfotunately, the function of NOS doesn't translate well into electronics.

[xxspeednplayaxx]

hey Mr. Bigshot, i saw at a web site that claims the big block dose 30MPH+ for the rs4... whats performance like on your xmod? im goin down to hobby town and i may happen to pick one up

[Mr BigShot]

Yes the Big Block is quick , but it's to darn cold out " - 10 "to race it outside and theres snow on the ground :D I had an idea to make an Ice Racer to race on the ice skateing pond by my house . You can take some very small nails and press the threw the backs of the wheels to make spikes in the tire's for grip :D Ok back to the subject . I pick up a 540 can called a Vemon Fireball the other day I got it running with the relay upgrade , and i couldn't believe how powerful this thing was! It has to be ten times more powerful then the Big Block and it only costed me 15.99 . They also rised the price of the Big Block at my hobbie shop to like 39.99 . I think they rised it because it fits perfertly in the new mini T . Man the wife is nagging :( for me to get off the computer Got to go

[xxspeednplayaxx]

lol thats awsome, but i saw how big it is, for me id be a lil unwilling to do this because first if have to rework the drivetrain, and second id have a heck of a time getting the body down, were did you get the motor?

[Mr BigShot]

just a local hobby shop . Tomarrow I will post some sweet pics of my new project

[Mr BigShot]

Here some pic's of what I've been workin on . The Motor is a 540 can made by Vemon its called a fireball . It is a 19 turn double wrap motor with dual ball bearings , and it only costed $15.99 plus tax and the 20 tooth gear was $3.50 . I'am doing the relay mod to this car also for max power :D Oh yea almost forgot the tires JK They are for the RS4 made by HPI . I took 2 Xmod rims and put 2 rubber tires on each . then stuffed them in and epoxyed them in so they'll never come out :D I also have smaller ones for the front "not done yet" .These tirers fit perfect and look sweet 2 .

[Mr BigShot]

enjoy :D

[Mr BigShot]

see the xmod tire on the inside :D

[neurokinetik]

Gonna be time for a 1/24th funnycar body soon...

[Mr BigShot]

I plan on using the Xmod Civic body " with some modifing "

[Micro S2000]

looks like your going to be doing some tubbing, damn thats going to be a crazy looking xmod

[Desslok]

that tire mod is genius!!!!
quick question how did you center them in the rs4 tire ?
I am so going to do this..

thx..

[Cian]

looking good!

Tried something similar with the Z, but never got it to run.

Got Wobble?

[KennyD]

Man thats awesome! MBS, if you have a video camera, you should make a video of that xmod running around. :) That would be something to see.

[Mr BigShot]

My wife lost her job and I'am redoing my computer room . Can't wait to she gets back to work ! Wife's are a pain in the butt :D Hopefully next week I'll be able to work on my Drag car . In the mean time anyone who reads this go to the RS web site and go to bottom of page and find the "contact us" and email them . Lets get on there case about making some newer better parts for these cars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr BigShot]

Well I got the newest mini z to test my xmods against. Haven't run it yet cant wait . Body is hard as heck to get off .

[Mr BigShot]

allmost broke the thing its very light

[KennyD]

Mini-z's are bad as hell man :) I love em.

[10_second_supra]

that's nice you gonna rip it apart and upgrade it to lol. I wish i had the moding skills you have

[suzieslover]

Utterly insane mod!
Rat Fink and Big Daddy would be proud.
I hear ya about the wife thing, good thing mine is still a work-a-holic.

Have you done any real world testing? A 1:28 scale 1/4 mile is only 46 feet so I would love to see what that monster can do.

Even with my Stage 2 and Li-Ions I can run a 5 sec scale 1/4 mile.

You would be under sub one second without a doubt.

Keep up the ground breaking work and keep the peace at home :D

[Mr BigShot]

I haven'thad the chance to work on my cars been buzy redoing my computer room . I can't wait untill it finished " hopefully this weeekend" I've spent well over 2 g's in this 8'8"by 8'6"room I looks sweet I'll post pics when done :D The first thing I'm doing when I'm done is geting my drag car finished :D

[ben1112]

can it corner fast? or will it spinout at high throttle while doing so?

[Cian]

Found the perfect body for your drag car, 57 chevy lexan shell
1/24 DRS DRAG RACING SLOT CAR 57 CHEVY BODY NEW IN PACK (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3177560625&category=2620)

http://i13.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/62/93/53_1.JPG

[neurokinetik]

Now that is hot... http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[RaceRfreak]

Ne News yet

[Mr BigShot]

I haven't messed with my Xmods For a very long time. We still dont have the alloy parts we need yet Do We ;( Dam you RS Dam you LoL maybe for Xmas I hope . I don't know when I'll get back to working on my Drag car been so buzy :( Maybe this winter comeing up lol

[charliebrown]

Hey Mr.BigShot, this is all very nice work!!! I admire how you're doing all that chopping and modding just to get an Xmod to beat a Mini-Z....

Though, I'll tell you something...if you were to take all these mods you've done to an Xmod and hook it up to a Mini-Z instead..... :D

Chuckster...

[mitchell]

i wonder what would happen if u put a gas motor in an xmod...you would probaly have to cut a hole in the body and use a mini belt or chain to get it to the shaft

[tavisjohn]

Originally posted by mitchell
i wonder what would happen if u put a gas motor in an xmod...you would probaly have to cut a hole in the body and use a mini belt or chain to get it to the shaft

I do not think you could fit a gas engine in an X-Mod, however you have Fuel, heat, and exaust issues with that idea... (Snif snif, is that melting plastic I smell...)

Also the tourq from a gas engine might damage the entire drivetrain.