CF Chassis for X-mod, Interested??

[Zero-Man]

We are currently in development on a CARBON FIBER (CF) flat pan chassis for the X-mod Suspension Components.

The chassis will use the front bolt on parts and the rear stock motor pod. You will be able to use the stock electrical components but it is really designed for aftermarket servos-receivers-esc's. Treat this as a teaser/feedback thread, but if the interest is high enough, we will work closely with the shop to distribute them.

Protos and pics should be posted before Christmas.

[viperkilla]

How much are you willing to sell them for?

[4G63T]

i think they will be little bit pricey because its corbon fiber
ya how much?:D

[Zero-Man]

The main components of the Protos are being priced now. Hardware will be costed shortly.............But it all depends on how many are made..........sorry about being so elusive, but at this point I am at the mercy of the CnC shop and other suppliers.

I will also entertain any constructive needs-desires-wishes for the chassis. At this point in time they could be incorporated. As it stands right now with the use of the rear motor pod, the stock bodies would fit, but it would be way cool if MINI-Z Autoscale bodies could be used for a much wider body choice. Just one of those wishes.........

[4G63T]

okay thanks for letting us know!
post the prices as soonest you ll know

[neurokinetik]

I'd like to see the batteries laid down flat across the chassis like the MR02 does it, for a lower CG. I think with that change, this thing has the potential to be a serious racer.

[Cian]

How about a rolling chassis kit , with susp/ drivetrain parts, but no motor/servo/Rx/esc? That is something I would be interested in!!

[FESCSteve]

I would also like to see a top plate and perhaps stretch chassis options.

The top plate would allow for more mounting surface althoug it may not under hte stock car body.

I would be interrested for sure.

Steve

[Cian]

Originally posted by FESCSteve
I would also like to see a top plate and perhaps stretch chassis options.

The top plate would allow for more mounting surface althoug it may not under hte stock car body.

you could probably mount the servo more securely as well with two decks, liek the micro RS4 chassis

[Zero-Man]

Keep the ideas coming!!!:D

Yeah a top plate would be way cool...

To lay the batts flat they would probably have to be locked in place by a top plate and that could make changing them harder.....If the chassis is designed to use the Mini-Z bodies only, then the width becomes wider and the batts could possibly be laid flat in holders. But then you need wider offset wheels.......might be able to hook up with Mini-Z to make the rims.............................................. ....


Rolling chassis, could be possible........

[rucrazy4rc]

i want one nothing beats having an x mod that only modders would love and showing those 13 year olds that this is a modders world

[oregonfear]

:eek: Holy carbon fiber frames batman! Sign me up for one!

[R33E8]

Well, after being into 1/10th scale onroad cars for quite some time, making a carbon fiber upper plate or whole chassis may not be the best thing to do. It may look cool and everything but it can also interfere with the radio signals. When you make the chassis, you should make sure that no peice of carbon fiber touches the antenna or other things like that. It could bring your range that was like 200-300 feet to just about 5 or so. Its not a big deal or anything and I'm not trying to make people not buy your products, but I'm just saying that it could be a problem with the chassis and so on. I'm also thinking about building my own custom chassis to hold a Novak micro esc and so on, but I'm just in need of materials.

[hotrod29728]

well i do know about you guys but id like to see an T-106 aluminum chassis for the X-Mods or that carbon fiber would be cool but anthing to make it stronger and lighter but if you do the aluminum ones then they should me anodized so you can get diffrent colors....
thanks for listening
and we cant wait to hear the price of these things....

[Zero-Man]

R33E8

It's already been done and it is being used successfully with the Pro-Z CF chassis for Mini-Z's; it is a minor but worry-some problem that all CF chassis deal with. Simple isolation of the the antenna mount is usually cure enough in the 1/18 and smaller chassis.:D

But hey, your point is well taken and is a design consideration. Thanks.

To update, technical issues with the cad file transfer over the intrenet have got the project stalled until I can resolve the problem with a zipped dxf file..................

[Zero-Man]

Protos just in................

Front and rear drivetrain components are a simple swap. The design is engineered for a complete stock parts swap. The stock battery mounts may be an issue but we will see...........

Pics later today.........:D

[Zero-Man]

As promised pics.............

Typical plain Jane Supra

[Zero-Man]

But all is not just eye candy, slip a peak under the aero skirts and you'll see the slinky, smooth CF chassis

[Zero-Man]

The front has an added camber plate for that perfect fit...........

[Zero-Man]

The rear is just as tight as the front with everything a simple 2 screw swap at this point(simple may be misleading as anybody who has put the bearing kits in will know. But if you're going to do a bearing install, why not go ahead and convert at the same time? Soon my friends, soon the shop will have them)

[Zero-Man]

And the jigsaw is back together, all parts swapped to the new CF Chassis, including the AWD kit.........

[Zero-Man]

The bottom of the chassis is fully countersunk to keep it smooth........

[neurokinetik]

Looks great so far... http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[aero528]

WHOA!! how much do you think that you will be selling them for???!

[mando365]

yea dude, how much u lookin to sell em for? i wouldnt mind a haveing 2 one for my supra and 1 for my bros skyline.

[rucrazy4rc]

simple yet effective !!!!!!!I want one now

how much ?????

[Zero-Man]

simple yet effective !!!!!!!

Exactly what we were striving for, and it should help to keep the cost down! Pricing forthcoming as we work with the shop.......it will probably be after Christmas before anything is finalized so save all those cash cards from the relatives:D

[Vagabond]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTT.....

[hotrod29728]

I think i speak for everyone when i get down on my knees and beg you to sell us pore pitty souls one of those bad *** chassis made out of CF

[red02zx3]

Id defintely buy one of those bad boys..... let us know what price is gonna be and how to order one! I WANT ONE!

[rucrazy4rc]

the lay out of the chasis is perfect for after market electronics,plus the battery compartment won't be needed since you can use a flat receiver pack for one of the sides, >>>>>>>>>>>>

[danny_v_l]

how much?

[Shane_882002]

hey i have 50 bucks from christmas and was wondering if u can make more than that i want to put everything cf on my xmod thanks bye,even a cf drive shaft u guys should sell a pack of cf parts for like 50 bucks i will buy:D
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[Zero-Man]

Hold onto that $50!!!!

You should be able to get all you wanted with some change. Keep your fingers crossed and your wish may come true in January................

[red02zx3]

any more info on the CF chassis?

[QPizzle]

what? on ebay the cf center shaft alone is selling for 30$... jesus christ.

[slugbugg]

I put those shafts on Ebay and I cant believe how crazy it gets but there are some people that will only buy from Ebay or other online stores.(strange)

[35thSLP]

I just got a Cf dirve shaft from Decals-R-Us (http://xmods.Decals-R-Us.com) for 9.00 for a set of three.

[SupraDJ]

cool. i want the chassis. they look soo daym nice. my plastic one is cracked alittle so i think i should replace it with the CF chassis.

[pbmax]

Hurry up man, we all want the CF chassis :D

Should be good for stifffening things up, reducing weight a tad, and holding my li-ion battery mod in place better! :cool:

[MicroRCEngineering]

How about a motor for a CF chassis?

[Zero-Man]

Not in the motor business but NML is the man there with a current product. Hmm, maybe the shop has something going on in that department? Check out the sister site at Mini-ZRacer.com Shop/Powertrain (http://www.mini-zracer.com/shop/products.php?pid=4) for existing motors for the 1/28 scale Mini-Z. Don't know if anybody has tried them so I CANNOT verify their compatibility with the X-Mod ESC design limitations. Most of the mod motors there require FET mods to run without frying the ESC. Be cautious and careful with mod motors.............

[QPizzle]

i already double stacked FET's i got from ebay user Mike Shane.. apparently he knows whats up. he makes various CF parts incl. motor mounts, battery clips, front deck, and cf lips.

[slugbugg]

So whats the hold up on this project?

[Zero-Man]

Actually some hardware and fitment issues had to be resolved, but they are complete as of this date. The holidays and deliveries played a part in about 10 days worth of of the delay. Also negotiations are still underway with the shop here and some other notable suppliers;).

Expect the general announcement with release dates and pricing very soon. Look for the pricing to be in the reasonable department!

Sorry for the lagtime, but we want to get it all just right before producing bunches of them and then finding out something doesn't fit properly.

[slugbugg]

Tell me about it Zero-man, I have been working on a chassis for the Xmods starting about a week after they were released.

I takes time and it is only me doing the work plus all the other life stuff.

I have so many drawings of the Xmod chassis that I can now literally just cut and past things together.LOL

[Zero-Man]

Too true, my friend and the design has to compromise so many issues. Making a flat pan that will take stock electronics as well as serve for aftermarket electronics is driving me crazy!!! And each prototype run costs 80-100 bucks for 2-3 chassis's, not to mention the CAD time involved...............sometimes I wonder if we are crazy!!:D

[QPizzle]

is price higher than 40$?

[slugbugg]

Yep there is very little room to make it all fit together and options run out fast it seems.

Atleast I'm not spending anywhere near that for prototypes.

Right now I can make a chassis that will work with after market electronics and hold six cells down low but it is still to tight to get it all under an Xmod body.
I just drew up another configuration and will cut a few pieces soon to test fit.

[Zero-Man]

Sounds like you have access to your a nice shop.........Mine all go out to a commercial RC CnC shop.

[slugbugg]

My shop is all me I really wish I had someone local working with me on this.

I'll never be able to produce like a commercial shop untill I get a bit bigger.Luckily CF cuts rather quick compared to aluminum.

[STR8_UP]

not trying to hate but.....i know i'm new to this site and to xmods but i've been racing 1/10th onroad cars for years and what i see here is you want to make a carbon fiber chassy and use mini-z bodies and mini-z wheels and maby after market electronics right?
if you do that why don't you just make this for the mini-z guys because the car will be just about all mini-z anyway....right?
i can see me buying a mini-z body and making it fit on my xmod but its still a xmod(about90%) but if you have a cf chassy,mini-z wheels and body,and after market electronics all you will have is about 20% xmod(moter etc.) right?

if you make a cf bottom plate that is a direct replacement i will buy one or 2....

but if you make it where i hafto basicly build a mini-z i'll just buy a mini-z...you see where i'm comming from???

_Jason

[slugbugg]

You must not be talking to me since I am not trying to use any Mini-Z parts on mine in fact I am avoiding that completely.
My goal is to try and beat the mini-Z's (a big challenge to say the least) so I dont want mini-Z parts on what I'm making if/when I actually beat a mini-Z.
The Xmod will need a lot of after market parts to be reliable enough to stay with a mini-z(the mini-Z is a tough/proven car)

I will use similar parts like motors and batteries that could/would work on a mini-Z but thats about it for me.

I'm not tyring to make the Xmod into a mini-Z i'm trying to make it into another fun 1/28 scale RC.

[matrixled]

I'm not tyring to make the Xmod into a mini-Z i'm trying to make it into another fun 1/28 scale RC.

Amen to that

[hotrod29728]

come on :rolleyes: you guys have to be kidding me why would you pay 50 for a x mod then turn around and buy all of the upgrades sept maybe a few things and then want to completely reshape sculpt and modify these things to be a mini-z? its just plain stupid so many of you i know just are here for the carbon fiber chassis i know i am i dont want to turn my car into a monster to beat a mini-z because noone around me can afford them :rolleyes: so i just want toleave my stock electronics on it instead of paying 300 dollars for stuff and just put me a carbon fiber chassis under it to be stronger and lighter so why ? why would you be dumb enough to do all that for some thing that wasnt made to be like that?

[red02zx3]

i think your missing the whole point of MODDING.....;)

[QPizzle]

there is one MAJOR item your missing.... manufacturing costs. radioshack did not opt for a cf chassis because they wanted an affordable car for the consumer.. im sure a cf chassis woulda raised the base price by atleast 20-30$. the whole point of modifying it is to make it faster.. how about this as an analogy/comparison.

mini-z's = corvettes/other american sport cars
xmods = imports/ie. hondas, nissans etc..

just like in real life.. you can make say, a nissan 240sx completely smoke a stock corvette for the same amount of money (50k$)

just like xmods... theyre cheaper and can go faster than mini-z's at half the price. sorry for the lame analogy and no effort to defend my statement.. but im not good with these things right after school

edit: i rethought it out..

say you have 300$ to spend on either a miniz or an xmods.

for 300$ you can probably get a miniz and a few upgrades, very few.

as far as an xmods goes... 50$ for the car.. now you have 250$ worth of mods to be put into it. you can have cf chassis/insane motor/electronics upgrades/tires/rims/suspension/awd/lights/bodykit/bearings/cf centershaft/cf upper and rear deck/cf motor mounts/polished heatsink/etc.

i think its pretty obvious now.

[STR8_UP]

Originally posted by Zero-Man
Keep the ideas coming!!!:D

Yeah a top plate would be way cool...

To lay the batts flat they would probably have to be locked in place by a top plate and that could make changing them harder.....If the chassis is designed to use the Mini-Z bodies only, then the width becomes wider and the batts could possibly be laid flat in holders. But then you need wider offset wheels.......might be able to hook up with Mini-Z to make the rims.............................................. ....


Rolling chassis, could be possible........


On page 1 you said this which sounds like a mini-z knock-off
right????


also i drive 89 240sx with a sr20det swap and including the car the vette killer only cost $6,000 and i have some upgrades like a boost controler,quafe lsd,and R33 intercooler.you say $50,000 $3,500 and you have a car and a swap that at stock 5-7psi of boost will smoke a vette all day long.

[Zero-Man]

Point of order.........


This chassis is designed specifically for X-Mods!


Our prime design concept for this chassis is an "affordable" CnC made Carbon Fiber chassis designed specifically for a stock swap of the all the components. That means it is only designed for X-Mod bodies/parts.

I entertained the idea of using a Mini-Z friendly body mount but that is way further down the road.

Agree on this point, the X-Mod and Mini-Z are 2 totally different creatures. We do products that will work for the X-Mod as well as the Mini-Z, but this is NOT one of them.

This chassis is designed specifically for X-Mods!

Hope this clarifies.......and does not offend
:D

[Skurge420]

very cool......just waiting on a price from ya.....I want one.....or maybe two ....or three

[redlinedub]

Once they are done I will order one :D

[neurokinetik]

Yeah, if they work with stock electronics and still can fit a 180 motor, I'll be in for two, as long as they eliminate what I perceive to be the biggest design problem, that being the high center of gravity from the battery mounting. I'll be waiting until I see both designs finished before buying. Or more likely, I'll end up with one of each. :lol:

[Evomod]

I'll take one or two
How much $$$:D

[STR8_UP]

i understand what you said i was just clearing up a few things... if you build a cf replacement chassy i'll buy one or 2....but if you somehow made a chassy that used any mini-z **** i won't buy it because i wanna stay with a all xmod style and not a crossover... do you understand where i'm comming from now?

[slugbugg]

I understand where your coming from STR8_UP, and I believe zero-man does to.


WE DONT NEED NO STINKING MINI-Z PARTS ON OUR XMODS. lol

[STR8_UP]

ATLAST POINT GOTTON.....



Thanks
_Jason

[rucrazy4rc]

i agree with you guys xmods all the way i have two mini z one stock the other with a squat cf chasis , i would like the xmod cf chasis for the x mods but could fit other electronics just as long it not a mini z product or any after market miniz product

[tinyrc]

The CF Chassis will be ready soon, in the mean time, help us name it and you could win one!

http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=17228

Please post links to the contest on other XMODS sites you may visit - thanks! :)

btrc

[MicroSpeed]

Sounds sweet, the contest & the actual chassis. Can't wait do buy one, after I get more money (thats always my problem isn't it :rolleyes: ).

[Cian]

I've only now seen the chassis, great design, simple but effective. Reminds me of the ARM chassis for the Micro RS4. I'll take one!

[QPizzle]

Originally posted by STR8_UP
On page 1 you said this which sounds like a mini-z knock-off
right????


also i drive 89 240sx with a sr20det swap and including the car the vette killer only cost $6,000 and i have some upgrades like a boost controler,quafe lsd,and R33 intercooler.you say $50,000 $3,500 and you have a car and a swap that at stock 5-7psi of boost will smoke a vette all day long.

woah man... either your bluffing or just plain obvlivious.

an sr20det black top or red top only put out about 210hp stock.

i also know someone who has a 91 240hatch with a redtop sr20det swap and no way in hell can he smoke a vette yet. you need to read up more before you go spilling words like this.. it would take alot more than a stock turbo at 7psi, actually you could never do it with a stock turbo.

[EMX]

I dont like how the front diff for the AWD kit is exposed like that, i see major problems with that, with hair, dirt and so on.

other then that, it looks good :tup:

[red02zx3]

Im gonna have to agree on this one...my dad owns a Z06 and, stock, in the 1/4 mile, its faster than a Viper.12.3 I think. And with 410 HP outta the box.....good luck. I drive a Focus with every upgrade known to man, including boost, Ive got 283HP at the wheels......I STILL dont run a 12.3. Maybe Im a bad driver or whatnot, I just dont believe a 240 could smoke a vette.

[QPizzle]

not faster than a viper, but hella faster than an sr20det... and the new vettes are even faster (500hp)

[bugman72]

Hey, Zero-Man do you need any help with the CAD work? I've got 14 years of AutoCAD experience (I'm currently a CAD Designer for an environmental consulting firm). I work cheap (maybe in trade for one of these beautiful chassis). If it would help you out at all on keeping the R&D costs down, I'd be all for chipping in.

You can email me at gjones72@earthlink.net as to whether you are interested in the help or not.

[QPizzle]

its seems like to me that they are already set with that, as tinyrc made a post. i can also draw in cad and my dad has 25+years with drafting if any new projects come up. he also has access to his company's cnc machine, altho no one knows how to work it.

[STR8_UP]

first off i'm pushing 14psi on a STOCK yes thats right i said STOCK turbo all i have done is a rebuild w/bearings.second i didn't say i could smoke a Z06 i said a vette(stock) or lightly modded up.third at 7psi a 240 can (only with a good driver) beat a bone stock vette....

and if you guys don't believe me please come down to tampa,fl and i'll give you a ride in my car. hell after that ride, i'll give you a ride in my 94 civic dx coupe w/SiR B series built with a t3-t4 gready kit ...and that bitch is in the high 12's with slips to prove it!!!

[Zero-Man]

bugman72

No thanks, in 2D I'm fine, only issues I've had so far are in the file transfers and I finally understand what the heck I did.


STR8_UP,QPizzle

It's easy to stray away from the thread, but you 2 are out on the High Speed freeway;), Kinda interesting though but belongs in another thread, perhaps?:D


Hey, be sure to vote on whether you want to slot the bottom for the battery clips........Battery Clip Slots (http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17264)

[Zero-Man]

EMX I dont like how the front diff for the AWD kit is exposed like that, i see major problems with that, with hair, dirt and so on.


Yep, a concern of mine too, the issue is one of those compromises I talked about earlier. In order to keep it light, I wanted to use the 1mm CF and not the 1.5mm CF. The thicker the chassis, the more rigid, the heavier and also the more "lift" to all the bolt on components. In reality the diff barely extends below the bottom of the chassis. But it has to be open for clearance. Low nap carpet shouldn't be too much of an issue. High nap or loose gravel could. Simple enough to rectify with some double sided tape and a small square of thin clear plastic, bet you have them laying around the pit bench somewhere........;)

[QPizzle]

well maybe you can be a 1960 bone stock vette. and as for the slots, i dont exactly understand, you mean like a cutout around the clip area or some slot which i dont picture.

[Zero-Man]

Yep, the bottom of the battery box fits snug to the lower chassis, you can unclip the top and wiggle the clip and lift up on the box to remove the bottom clip which is sandwiched.

Also, if you the lossen the screw that holds the box in place 1 turn, then the clip has enough room to release from the box.

The slot would be positioned so that you could insert a flat blade from the bottom of the chassis and get the bottom of the clip to release from the capture ridge of the battery box.

I prefer the method of lifting the front of the battery box and wiggling the clip, just moderately harder than the stock clip removal.

If you still can't visualize it, tape a flat of cardboard or plastic under the stock chassis so that the bottom battery clips are covered. Try to remove the clips and you'll see what I mean.


:D

[QPizzle]

a riser insert wouldnt fix the problem? say, made out of foam so it raises just enough to get the clip out, and you would have to cut a space in the riser but not cf.

[dietryin]

First off this silvia would keep up and beat a corvette when reving hi ( 5000-6000 ) and im only 12 and i kno all of this..

That civic sounds fast, my friend has a 00 si N/A that runs low 12's.. its pretty fast, kept up with a vette on I-95

Well and a corvette may beat a viper in 1/4 just because the viper is under rated in hp stock, they say 500 and its 590.. so it has no traction to get good times in the 1/4.. slap a set of slicks on it and itll hand the corvettes rear end to ya

Cant wait for the chassis.. itll be pretti cool

Jay


IM Me - ricerfighter91 or email jrjamms@cocmast.net

[QPizzle]

im glad this isnt a real automotive forum.. gg. i hope you slot the chassis! or ill just slot my own.

[Bad Company]

Please keep this on topic.

[dietryin]

ok sry BC

[neurokinetik]

Originally posted by EMX
I dont like how the front diff for the AWD kit is exposed like that, i see major problems with that, with hair, dirt and so on.

other then that, it looks good :tup:

Well, considering how most flat pan cars, and even the Mini-Z have the gears exposed, I don't forsee a problem with it. Mind you, my 1/12th scale car used to collect the occasional pebble in the gears, but it was a relatively rare occurance. I've actually had it happen on the XMods, even with the gear being covered.

[STR8_UP]

slots are good ...
sorry about that BC these guys just don't know 1:1 cars to well.
it show there age ......

[QPizzle]

bc please lock this thread before i show str8 up wahts up... hes living in a fantasy world.

[digital_toad]

About the CF chassis. I'm owning one as soon as it comes out. You guys have done a fantastic job. I actually will probably own both sluggs and zeros. They both look amazing. Great job to both of you.

Ha, fantasy world. Some people just can't admit that a import can beat american muscle, in many situations. Just the fact that some imports can give american muscle a run for its money is an achievment in its self. They have four more cylinders for gods sake. Silvia = 4 banger with a turbo running 13s stock. A z06 vette is a V8 running 12s. With as much money as you put into buying that vette, you could have a monster 240sx. I have my respect for american muscle, but american muscle should have its respect for the nimble import.

[rucrazy4rc]

digital toad you said what most american muscle owners knew but never admitted, right on the money they have the nerve to say that nothing can beat american muscle when they know themselves that it is possible especially from a foreign fwd car,to squeeze out enough horse power out of a six cylinder car to give a v8 a headache ,then they have the nerve to do the same thing to a v8 and say that nothing can beat them , well i don't know if you heard about that honda civic that hit 200mph out on the salt flats>>>>>>>

[QPizzle]

the whole 13sec stock 240sx is still a load of crap. Listen, i go to Englishtown raceway. I have attended every single import event since 1999. I am very into the drag racing scene, and have witnessed 240sx's running 15's and 14's. Before you get into the whole "sr20det" thing, those 240's ive seen had sr20dets. red tops and black tops. Have yet to see a blue top. If str8_up would really like to prove himself.. i would like to see a scanned timeslip. Then maybe ill be more of a believer. I just dont like people flaunting things that arent true.

[digital_toad]

Just like I said, Silvia.

http://www.fast-autos.net/nissan/nissansilvia.html

theres your proof. Its not slips but it does have numbers.

Even if were not talking Silvias or 240sx's, there are plenty of old school eclipses out there that will kick the **** outta a z06 for the money.

[QPizzle]

gg thats a s15, blue top. 7grand for engine alone. also thats the base q/m and its 13.9. his 240sx with red or black top is less hp... also its not a silvia..

[Bad Company]

The topic of this thread is titled " CF Chassis for X-mod, Interested??". If you would like to discuss real cars please visit this forum...
http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=116
Thank you.

[bugman72]

Thank you, BC. I was just trying to figure out how to let the mods know about this topic going WAY off subject.

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by bugman72
Thank you, BC. I was just trying to figure out how to let the mods know about this topic going WAY off subject.
To report a post, use the link at the bottom of that post and follow the directions.

[bugman72]

I was going to do that, but the "requirements" on the posting page didn't fit my request. I know how daunting a moderator's job can be and I didn't want to send any more extraneous and unnecessary messages than absolutely necessary. I'll keep that in mind in the future, though.

On topic, has there been any more progress on the chassis? I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product and getting a firm price established. I'm planning on using as much carbon fiber as possible (CF driveshaft, front and rear top plates, chassis, and anything else that someone comes up with) on my car, as money allows.

[jamgunner]

Originally posted by bugman72
I'm planning on using as much carbon fiber as possible (CF driveshaft, front and rear top plates, chassis, and anything else that someone comes up with) on my car, as money allows.

Where did(or will) you get your cf top plates? Saw a few on ebay, just wondering if there was any other sources for them.

[bugman72]

I haven't gotten them yet, but I found out about them here (http://www.xmodworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=552) . The guy (Sleepingsupra) is selling both pieces for $15 shipped.

[danny_v_l]

hey guys i didn't notice if some one brought this up but how do u mount the servo, do u have detailed pics of it mounted if so plz post

[spitty12]

I'm very interested in the cf chassis, I really want the batteries lower to improve handling.

[Zero-Man]

Battery Clip Slots (http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17264) Please visit and vote, you are helping the "development team" decide.........

[New_B]

The CF chassis looks wonderful. I'm fairly new this scale of RC cars, arising from 1:64 scale. Anyways, does the CF chassis make a heck of a lot more difference in weight? I've heard of CF hoods and stuff, but does it affect this small of scale? Could you give some numbers on the weight of a stock XMod compared to one with a CF chassis? Thanks.

[Vagabond]

The CF chassis will definitely gives the xmod better performance in term of handling and speed. CF is tougher and lighter and it's the strongest AND lightest material to be use in a RC car. It's pan chassis design will gives the xmod more space for stock and aftermarket or hobby grade parts. If the line up of the equipments are done correctly then this will lower the CG of the xmod as the stock CG is high. So this is certainly the best upgrade that the Xmod can have.

[rucrazy4rc]

where is my chasis , i can't wait , give it to me now !!!!!!!

[neurokinetik]

Originally posted by Vagabond
The CF chassis will definitely gives the xmod better performance in term of handling and speed. CF is tougher and lighter and it's the strongest AND lightest material to be use in a RC car. It's pan chassis design will gives the xmod more space for stock and aftermarket or hobby grade parts. If the line up of the equipments are done correctly then this will lower the CG of the xmod as the stock CG is high. So this is certainly the best upgrade that the Xmod can have.

Right. It's not the weight that is the big benefit here, it is the lowering of the CG. I don't know about the rest of you, but rolling over in the turns really annoys me.

[maxximum attack]

OFF TOPIC:

This goes to anyone, where can I get an AutoCAD program. I am doing a course in it at college and I need the program for my pc. (for homework and stuff). I am willing to pay, within reason, for a bootleg.

Thanx

[QPizzle]

you do not want to post such material here. any reference to illegal pirated software is bad and you shouldnt do it here, being that this place is so moderated. check www.packetnews.com for it.

[hotrod29728]

Sorry but i have been agreeing with everyone today ( is something wrong with me?) but yes QPizzle is right the site is moderated very very closely and you dont want to slip up and say or do anything stupid

But hey back to the matters of this forum where is the heck are those new Cf chassis im getting friggin angry with not having STATE-OF-THE-ART equipment so come on hurry up

[bugman72]

Just to chime in here, slightly off-topic. Autodesk (the makers of AutoCAD) are not ones to be messed with in the realm of software piracy. I've seen them bring large corporations to their knees, making them pay millions and millions of dollars in fines. Autodesk not only fines you for the cost for each station that has an illegal copy, they fine you for all revenue that was generated as a result of having the software.

BAD NEWS!

Back on topic...I'm so ready to get one of these chassis. Please let us know an ETA!

[Zero-Man]

Yep will continue to be the question of the day!!??

3rd proto run is being done with final revisions and Battery Clip Slots!! Pics when they come in, promise. If the fitment is good and the slots work out, then production should be February-March, keep your fingers crossed.

Also, sold separately, a front top plate with a stock servo plate. You'll be able to run the stock servo or if you prefer aftermarket parts, simply remove the small servo plate for the added weight savings; marginal at best, but if you don't need it, shed the grams.

:rolleyes: :D

[maxximum attack]

Can anyone tell me a store that I can get it from? I really need it.

on topic:
The ETA is great. I asked for a lift kit but after trying to tackle the problem myself, I realized that it is next to impossible. Lifting the body isn't as simple as changing the suspension arms, The bottom of the chassis would have to be lowered so as to lower the axis of the wheels along with the new arms. Then the wheels would have the current xmod clearance and the "belly" would be raised. NO POINT. So all you rally xmodders, it's looking bleek for us, we'll have to stick to the 'tarmac stages':D .

this sucks. I need an offroad xmod :(

[Adog]

Yeah I am definitely interested in a CF chasis and all CF parts for that matter.

[Zero-Man]

Ok, you've patiently waited and here it is.......the preproduction prototypes came in today and I've just snapped some pics.......and you asked for it, battery clip slots

[Zero-Man]

and what is that CF goodie on the front? You saw it here first, the front top plate made for either the stock servo or by removing the small plate, suitable for aftermarkets

[Zero-Man]

Different angle showing:

Recess for the stock servo and the top servo retainer

Battery clip slots

PCB support

[QPizzle]

so hot..

[Zero-Man]

Pricing should be in the $40-50 range, if enough sets are demanded. Look for the actual release date and pre-orders soon................

[QPizzle]

that price for chassis alone? :x hopefully ill win one instead :P

[MicroRCEngineering]

zeroman,

how about one of my Mega-X Big Block for your Chassis?

[crj90]

This Thing is so bad. I need one.

[QPizzle]

i hope your not that Redline motor guy, hes such a goofball... he advertises those motors on eBay like its that important. If your that NML guy with that huge ass motor, your awesome.

nope, your the nml guy... didnt notice your info/avatar at first...

[xxxmod]

Wene can i get one

[SuPrBuGmAn]

Originally posted by QPizzle
i hope your not that Redline motor guy, hes such a goofball... he advertises those motors on eBay like its that important. If your that NML guy with that huge ass motor, your awesome.

nope, your the nml guy... didnt notice your info/avatar at first...

Check out his email address(in his title), nomotorlimit@whatever.com :) He's NML.

[QPizzle]

oh word.. i dont have anything against him :)

[neurokinetik]

Looks great, and the price is about what I would expect to pay. http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[rucrazy4rc]

i'm ready to prepay how much give me two !!!!!!!!!!!!stop enticing me with those pictures

[WhoMe]

Looking good man! There is nothing like the sheen off that cf board. Im definatly interested..30 to 40 sounds cool. gravityholt@hotmail.com Thanks

P.S. Slightly off topic, but i love these cars even if they arent as good as the Zs...Because if it wasnt for xmods i would have never gotten into RC. SO MOD AWAY!

[SupraDJ]

what did you use to cut the carbon fiber sheet? i might make one of my own. what's the thickness of the sheet you used?

[QPizzle]

i think because the fact that theyre going to mass produce, and he already told you everything is shipped off to a company to produce, theyre using big machines. machines you cant get your hands on, and if you could, you wouldnt be asking. but since you want to make one yourself, you can use a dremel. for thickness, just pick a size you think would best suit your needs (price/thickness) its quite expensive so i think having a professional company do it for you would save you work, but also wouldnt raise the price much at all

[SupraDJ]

i c. i can get carbon fiber sheets for pretty cheap. and i can probably get a dremel from somewhere.

EDIT: nevermind about me making a carbon fiber chassi. my cousin cant get me the sheet anymore.

[QPizzle]

its like 25$ for a little sheet enough for 1 or 2 chassis o nebay

[Zero-Man]

I posted this in another thread but it's worth a repeat for all the patient X-modders out there:

What I've posted so far are prototypes.........Form and function will come together for the TRC CF Chassis..........We've been open about our posting and used the feedback to make the product fit most everybodies needs............Our products will be CnC'd for accuracy, fit, and finish..............Engineered to work with stock electronics as well as.........Replacement components will be available.........Full hardware will be included.............Online instructions will be available........Upgrades will be available..........When it becomes available, you will SEE it here at TRC.........soon

[Zero-Man]

RSX on the TRC CF Chassis, I know it's getting tired seeing the blank carbon fiber pan mounted, but it goes so well with the fake cf hood.

[Vagabond]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!

I must have one!!!

[FociD00d02]

edited....

[rucrazy4rc]

stop it allready ,stop teasing ,give it to me !!!!!!!!

[marc12]

sounds awsome:)

[Vagabond]

I think that it's a sweet design which i can mount my Novak SPY and XXL receivers to it. Now this car will be awesome. I just can't wait to get one.

[]-[otRod]

Zero-Man, got a question for ya.

Cant wait to see these in the shop! Ill be ordering a couple as soon as they are ready...

But I always hunger for more... Do you have the capability to do custom or "one off" chassis pans?

What I am looking for is one that is about 3/4" - 1" longer than the standard chassis - and preferably length fine adjustable like the stock CF pans you are currently developing. The reason being is I want the ability to mount 1/25 scale model kit bodies on the chassis. Most mods for this have required cutting down the model body to fit the X-Mods chassis & wheelbase - extending the chassis would solve this problem. Of course motor mounts would have to be re-located and a longer drive shaft would be needed, but you could also potentially mount a larger motor and 6-cell mods will fit much easier!

Just some food for thought, but let us know anyway if it is possible as I am definately interested in these as well.

Thanks and keep up the good work!

[Vagabond]

I just want to know when the chassis will be out. When it's out, this also mean that the contest is over and announce the winner.
Maybe i stand a chance to win :P

[QPizzle]

you didnt win, the winner is TRC racing chassis.

[Zero-Man]

]-[otRod

No immediate plans for an extendable chassis but you could by 2 chassis plates and mate them with some CF strips. Kinda expensive but If you want just the bottom plate and the CF strips to lock them together, we can probably work something out when the first production run is available. EM me.

[Zero-Man]

In about 3 of 7................;)

[Evomod]

Zero-Man are you taking orders yet?

[Zero-Man]

Nope, sorry, the shop will.

Wait till you see the last minute changes to the chassis. It is a flexible design on a very stiff main plate. That's all I'll say for now...........;)

[Zero-Man]

Just got delivery notification from the CnC shop........................very limited initial run.......................

[Vagabond]

The anticipation is killing me.... I must get one for my xmod.

[meteoraclown]

aww come on still not done with it yet? i want one so bad. might even get 2 dependin on how much money i got.

[viperdout]

Definately should be called the CSL, like the Bimmers. Maybe even the SLC, for super light chassis. I'd also like it to have super long settings, so I could mount the '63 vette body I have for it...

BTW, any word on if RS is gonna make an american car body for them? I really want a 2004 Cobra one!

[tinyrc]

X-FRAME PRO-Stock and PRO-Mod are back In Stock!

http://tinyrc.com/shop/products.php?pid=14

Pre-Orders have shipped, and the remaining stock is flying off the shelves - order yours quick, while supplies last! :)

btrc

[Blah]

IS THAT FLAT PAN DONE????I WANT ONE SO BAD!!!!!

[chrome01]

Originally posted by Blah
IS THAT FLAT PAN DONE????I WANT ONE SO BAD!!!!!

ME TOOO!!!!!!!!

[Zero-Man]

Keep it up guys, if enough want it, it will be done.........

[Blah]

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I want one when iget money and when its OUT!

[mod_o_matic]

Hey, Can i get like a prinout of the layout..i just want to see how it might help me in my next mod...
Email me @: ez_icz_is@hotmail.com
Thanks Zero..thats if u help :P

[Zero-Man]

Basic schematics are available at my site..........

[mod_o_matic]

Thanks...!

[travavx]

With the X-FRAME PRO-Stock Carbon Fiber Chassis v1.5 kit, what exactly needs to be modified to make this work? Or can this just go into a stock xmod??? Also what are some good suspension upgrades to go along with this?

[Zero-Man]

Go to the thread start....................:D








The stock conversion is simply a component swap, using all the original electronics and suspension components. No modifications needed.

All suspension upgrades work with the chassis.

[Blah]

what about those flat pans?

[Silentbob343]

lol

I was about to order some dragon plate CF and do my own till I was turned on to this thread.

Just one question is you CF chassis compatable with the GPM alloy parts?

I was looking forward to making my own, but I probably wouldn't get it right the first try so I might as well go with something that is tried and true.

[Zero-Man]

I can't speak from personal experience on the parts fit, but many X-Frame racers are using the GPM parts on their chassis. Since the chassis was designed SPECIFICALLY for stock x-mods suspension swap, there should be no general issues with using GPM parts.

Please be aware that GPM users have expressed some issues with the GPM parts not working well on stock x-mods without some filing to eliminate clearance issues. You should expect the same issues when using the X-Frame chassis...........

Z

[Krystalmesh]

Hey, Im now to this forum, but I have been watching it for some time. I was wondering if there was a mailing list I could get on or something to notify me if/when these chassis would be available? Myself and a buddy would both like to buy one. In fact I was planning on ordering a chassis from rcbutler, but I came across this and thought it was definately worth a shot. Please let me know if there is a way I can be notified about the chassis situation, or if you have them already and are ready to ship. Thanks for designing a rockin chassis...hope to have my hands on a couple asap. Thanks again.

Josh

[Zero-Man]

New Order in-process, about 4 weeks 'til delivery........:D

[Krystalmesh]

Thanks Zero-Man, your awesome. keep us up to date, and when we can order. I will be ordering one for myself and friend as soon as you give the go ahead ;)

[gaak]

hey, just got into xmods, i must say that i have always been a fan of CF, i have it all over my real car, and i want it all over my xmod! please let me know when more kits come in, cuz i must have one of these!

[viperdout]

Originally posted by gaak
hey, just got into xmods, i must say that i have always been a fan of CF, i have it all over my real car, and i want it all over my xmod! please let me know when more kits come in, cuz i must have one of these!

You'll be happy you waited. I love my Zero chassis, and it can handle the torque and speed of my shoehorned Mamba 6800 brushless motor! :D

[Zero-Man]

Thanks!

It is over-engineered for the demands of power users.....I admit, never thought about the Mamba in an X-mod. That has got to be a wild ride.

Any pics posted?

[viperdout]

Yep:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/viperdout/newsetup2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/viperdout/newsetup3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/viperdout/2db0dba3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/viperdout/newsetup1.jpg

I discovered also if you cut a notch in the top plate, you can lower the body tab 1.5 mm. The chassis really does not care about the power at all.

[gaak]

so, we're lookin at the end of february for the next run on these chassis'. any chance i can prepay and reserve one for myself? also, this is definately NOT a make or break issue, but does the Radio Shack underglow kit fit on this chassis? just wonderin...

[Zero-Man]

viperdout

Now that is truly insane power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see that it will handle that Mamba.....................................Oh sheesh I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have no clue on the underbody light kit.................sorry

[viperdout]

Originally posted by Zero-Man
viperdout

Now that is truly insane power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see that it will handle that Mamba.....................................Oh sheesh I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have no clue on the underbody light kit.................sorry

It handles it like a stock S1. I have it assembled slightly differently than how I got it (took off rear screw posts, used locknuts to move servo cover up to clear my new servo). From my standpoint, the chassis looks really well thought-out, and I love it. Zero, if you're ever in my area and it doesn't have a stripped gear, I'll let you lay a lil' rubber with it (I'm near Paramus, NJ). BTW, here's a chassis pic with the old setup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/viperdout/1_19.jpg

[Soupy944]

nice rear tire

[nsxmodder]

I dont know how much I will be liked after this seeing as how everyone likes this chassis so much, but I have found a competetors site that has a complete kit(front and rear decks, chassis, and plate that goes on the front to mount the front assembly.

It is $59.99 and is designed to work with the lithium kit, also on the same page.

http://www.xmodsource.com/store/performancepackages.html

[viperdout]

Originally posted by Soupy944
nice rear tire

Result of a Mamba 6800 being shoehorned into an xmod...

[chicken]

i know its been a while since any posts here but does anyone know when the pan chassis' will be in stock?ive been waiting for like months now and ive got everything ready for the chasis including a mini-z pcb and nelly turbo.srry im so impatient:D
edit:i read the other thread and found what i was looking for.

-Jess

[Zero-Man]

I've been busy, delivery expected from the CnC shop next week.

I'm ready to package and ship to the shop.

And yes, the flat pan version will be in this order, A.K.A. the "X+".

[chicken]

mann soo much stuff!!!
kool.il be waiting for the shop to restock.will the pan chassis have and upper deck like the pro mod chassis to mount the esc/servo?im getting excited just thinking about the chassis :D and finally getting to play with my xmod again

[arch2b]

i REALLY look forward to getting one of these just to play around with.

[MINIz guy]

i got a ques bou tthis though. i want to get this chassis with the mod chassis and want to know if the blue bird bms 303 would work without lots of modification