mini-z or tamiya motors

[rob2fastx]

hey guys i was just wondering about after market non RS motors? Are all of the mini z's too powerful or can they be used. and I read about the tamiya motors Im interested in the jet dash and the plasma dash will they work?


thanks!

[an6e1o82]

I used a hyper dash 2 in mine. the low end is ok. but the top end is crazy fast and thats with the white gear. its faster than the stage 2. I haven't tried ultra dash or plasma dash B/C i'm scared about the speed cpntrol limit. a $50 expense for trying something. I heard torque tuned motors work REALLY good in xmods. i need to try that still. but they do work. you just gota be carefull about overloading the speed control.

[mbartell]

I love the torque tuned motor. Especially for the 4wd cars.
Just fun watching it creep sideways before it shoots off.
- So what if my floor is a little dusty, it's still cool.

[rob2fastx]

hey thanks for the info. Ive been looking for someone who acually had one of the motors in. If I try any of them out ill post how it worked


thanks

[mbartell]

When you try one of the tamiya motors- I have a secret for you.
Use a capacitor that goes between the two leads, and if you want, one that goes to the motor can. The can is a little hard to solder too, so use a lot of flux.

Here's the secret:

It really dosn't matter what capacitor you use, if you use a ceramic disk one. (looks like a brown disk with wires hanging off of it) They are also non ploar, so you can't put them on backwards.

[an6e1o82]

what ecatcly whould that do? I know of capacitors on 1/10 cars but i dont really know what they do for the tamiya motors.

[mbartell]

It's not for the motor- it's for the radio, just like 1/10 scale.
Reduces interferance and glitching.

[food123]

Isn't same brand but here click here (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F011%5F002%5F007%5F003&product%5Fid=273%2D258)

[YeLLoW GT-R R34]

dang lol.....I wonder if that could work in a XMOD properly =)...

[neurokinetik]

I dunno, but it can't possibly be much good for $2.99. Then again, it could actually be the Stage 1 motor... :lol:

It is only spec'd at 8700 RPM unloaded. It says it is designed for 1.5-3V. We only are running at 4.8-6V. It won't be very fast.

Personally, I'm waiting to see some motors that are designed for AWD cars. Right now, all I'm really finding are relatively low-torque high RPM models. These types of motors are really restrictive when it comes to gearing choices, and not powerful enough to really break the tires loose coming out of a corner. I want a motor where that 11T pinion gear set actually becomes useful.

I'm not worried about the electronics being able to handle it. When I'm done with my upgrade, they'll handle it easily.

[CommanderMcBrid]

The $2.99 is no big deal. After all, think abou it, the normal motor sets are like 15 for 5, 5 of these would be 15, too. It very well couuld be the same motor.

[an6e1o82]

So far i've tested the hyper dash 2 and the torque tuned all by Tamiya.

The hyperdash's low end torque is at about or below stage 1 level. but the top speed is faster than stage two. I only used the white gear too. This motor's more for road racing. not too much drag since it barely has torque but top speed wise its pretty good.

The Torque tuned is at stage one level. but its way more smoother and suprisingly quiet. The car seems to not push itself outward through turns but just cruises right through it. Its good for small tracks with tight turns and not too many straights. As for top speed don't expect much.

I have yet to try the Ultra Dash and the Plasma Dash in my car. They should be a whole different level in performance. Or at least i'm hoping.

Thanx-Angelo

[food123]

*Incredibly stupid question* What really is torque? And why does it matter when you drag?

[colin4371]

your tourque is pretty much your acceleration and low rpm power. Certain military hummers, (not H2 mind you) have only about 110 HP, but over 500 Ft/lb of tourque, allowing it to practically climb up straight walls. if a car has less torque, its not going to jump off the line as fast as a torquier car. i dont think this is too good of a description, correct me if im wrong...

-Colmack

[food123]

ok now i understand. thanks

[YeLLoW GT-R R34]

Hmmmmmm...I'm guessing you will need a pinion puller for this.

[Viper966]

Originally posted by colin4371
your tourque is pretty much your acceleration and low rpm power. Certain military hummers, (not H2 mind you) have only about 110 HP, but over 500 Ft/lb of tourque, allowing it to practically climb up straight walls. if a car has less torque, its not going to jump off the line as fast as a torquier car. i dont think this is too good of a description, correct me if im wrong...

-Colmack


torque is how hard the wheels turn... HP is a function of toque over time

it sorta measures acceleration of the car @ load

Torque is what gets ya moving, HP is what keeps you moving

[YeLLoW GT-R R34]

How much does a Tamiya motor cost? Do you think I can get one at my LHS?

[rob2fastx]

http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/catalog2.cgi?got=no&cat=47&car_id=all&man=tam

[TypeZer0]

these tamiya motors were selling for 5 bucks at my hobbytown

[SKYHIGH]

I have the skyline w/ awd and was wondering if the high torque motor would work that is on this page: http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/catalog2.cgi?car_id=80&cat=47&man=all

[neurokinetik]

That's the PN S02. You would need a FET upgrade to run that motor.

[Nathan]

Tourqe is the force a motor produces that moves your car. Period.

Horsepower is a function of tourqe and RPM, and represents how much tourqe you get after gearing, or how much you can apply at a given RPM. Ex- a typical Honda Civic DX engine only makes ~80 ft-lbs, but can put 1000+ to the wheels in first gear. The horsepower peak is when your engine is producing the most tourqe at the wheels. So when people say "Low end tourqe" they are referring to the wheel tourqe made by the engine's low-end horsepower.

Electric motors simply produce X amount of tourqe at 0 RPM, and it decreases linearly up to the RPM peak. This is due to back EMF reducing the current flowing through the motor. This points out the flaw with horsepower- an electric motor has 0 hp at 0 RPM, though it is peaking in wheel tourqe. The right gears on a motor can almost flatten out the tourqe line.

[SKYHIGH]

Yeah that is sorta why I was asking you about the FET upgrade Stacking vs. seperate board. What type of configuration would be needed. I can do anything and do it correctly, if it is explained. You tell what FETs jto put where and it will get done along with the six cell I started on tonight. I used my dremel and cut the dual AAA holder in half and soldered the + to - that was just a metal wire. It wont look the best, but it wont be slow enough to look at it close like that

[arch2b]

if your looking for non-turobo mini-z motors, there are a few choices:
mini-zracer a-bb motor
mini-zracer o-bb motor
chaser rc m's stock motor
pn racing speedy motor
kyosho x-speed motor

i'm willing to bet these are all way better than any rs motor as they are all competitive products for the x-speed which is kyosho's upgraded stock motor for the mini-z

the x-speed is nice, the pn speedy is exactly that, the a-bb is very good, and the o-bb is supposed to be a torqier version for the overland. i'll have one of those any day now. don't waste the money for m's stock motor.

once the turbo/fet questions for the xmods can be aswered, there are lots of good trubo motors:
mini-zracer a-bb se motor
mini-zracer s-bb motor
pn racing s01-s03 motors
pn racing modified motor
chaser rc modified motor
atomic modified motor

these are just the more popular ones, there are more

[SKYHIGH]

just couldn't fit the 6th cell in but got the 5th in right in the rear bumper

[Vagabond]

Can anybody confirm whether or not the SO-2 can be run on Xmod without FET upgrade?