My Fully Hopped Up Xmod with Stage10 NML Motor [Archive]

MicroRCEngineering

10-24-2003, 01:28 AM

My RC Brothers & Sisters,

I am in near perfection on the Stage 10. I've been running my prototype since last Friday. But, I want to push it to the limit so that Xmod Racers who buy my motor will blow their competition by surprise. Let's just say that they're gonna wanna ask you what the hell is under your hood?

The first motor I will make will either be auctioned off, starting at only .99 Centz!! OR, I might have a contest!!! Stay tuned.

seth98es

10-24-2003, 02:07 AM

I want to see a quick video of you racing a Stage 2 w/ Drag motor :D

catman25

10-24-2003, 09:02 AM

i have seen proof for mini z and the likes but will you introduce any numbers or a video to get excitment high ?

PhillyB

10-25-2003, 02:31 AM

yeaaaah - is a fet upgrade necessary - i was already thinking about just taking the stock armature and sticking it in a neo case with ball bearings - same amount of turns just more effiecient

i sent my overland to nml's to get a FET upgrade - awesome even with a mild motor

Profoxcg

10-25-2003, 03:34 AM

I did the same, got it back today and its more zippy then before.

MicroRCEngineering

10-25-2003, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by Profoxcg
I did the same, got it back today and its more zippy then before.

I think you guys maybe referring to Myster E's fet upgrade services.

www. mini z tuner. com

My specialty is in high performance motors. I did a little bit of fet upgrading myself, but I've decided to withdraw from it.

Regarding Videos, My biggest apologies, for I don't really have access to a DV camcorder. I will see if a friend would be able to help me out with some serious drifting footage in an asphalt parking lot!

I will make it available as early as Sunday, and it will be auctioned off.

I also plan to auction off a brand new, upgraded with 4wd, and bearings, that I will guarantee to be a sleeper Xmod. Your buddy will be like, "Woah! What the?

I don't want to overhype this, but when I put it on e bay, I can only say that the buyer will be in awe.

PhillyB

10-25-2003, 12:40 PM

yeah myster e

so what about an xmod FET upgrade? was it neccessary? i notice alot of heat on the bottom of my car where the stock fet is and im using the stage 2 kit

MicroRCEngineering

10-25-2003, 05:25 PM

I believe Myster E is already looking into the possibility of upgrading the fets on the esc.

I meant to add on the previous post that Myster E is beyond excellent in what he does, which is why we got together to form Fuzion, so that we can offer other Mini z enthusiasts the best upgrade their money can buy.

Final: Tomorrow will be the day I will auction off a fully modded Xmod. This is one Xmod you'd want to put your money on. If you bet your friends for a drag race, I hate to say it, but your friends will hate you.

Silent_NightR34

10-25-2003, 06:21 PM

lol..if i get this motor im going to go to a race with a yellow skyline with a big, marker drawn, smily face on the hood of it:D ...now thats a total sleeper:p

cj1267

10-28-2003, 09:09 AM

He has it up for auction for $130. For that price I'm not interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3152294883&category=2565

sessiz10

10-28-2003, 09:14 AM

Well I sure am dissapointed, sorta. I could understand the $130 if I were competing for a cash award.

seth98es

10-28-2003, 09:22 AM

$130 is the price for the Xmod with the stage 10 motor, which doesnt sound too high for a flying Xmod :D

sessiz10

10-28-2003, 09:31 AM

Heh, maybe I should read a lil , right.:p
To my defense it's pretty damn early here and I've only had 1 cup of coffee yet.
Lets break this down here.
You get an xmod
the awd kit
the bearings
THE MOTOR
drifting kit (?)
Yup it's a good deal at $130, doubt it'll stay at that price though.
I'ld still like to get my hands on just the motor.
Any chance of that NML?

YeLLoW GT-R R34

10-28-2003, 09:35 PM

Yeah, hey dude.......do you think you can sell those motors separately? Haha I would get one fa sho....can't wait to see how fast it would be :) And also to take it to those mini z tracks and blow away the competition who think their mini zs are the best

fst blk supra

10-28-2003, 11:08 PM

i need one of these stage 10 motors
when and where will it be avalible
and is there a risk of hurting my xmod with it

khopari

10-28-2003, 11:23 PM

do you have spec on the motor like

how many RPM and speed..

tenzo gt

10-29-2003, 10:39 AM

I definitely want one of those Stage 10 NML motors, please keep all of us updated:D

:btm: :bs: b27m bbskyw bbgtr

Silent_NightR34

10-29-2003, 01:09 PM

whats this?!!?!?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3152430022&category=2565&rd=1

somebody else is doing it too!

TwizteD

10-29-2003, 03:24 PM

i want the motor seperate....tellmwe when that ish is available

SkunkApe

10-29-2003, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by TwizteD
i want the motor seperate....tellmwe when that ish is available

word.......i'd be interested in this......i did a swap already but i'd enjoy that motor a lot more

TwizteD

10-29-2003, 11:36 PM

i talked 2 the guy...he said that he is only workin on the mini z motors right now the only 1 available is the 1 in the RSX online...
..but that dont matter 2 me or skunk

nosser

10-31-2003, 01:22 AM

NML actually does some good work and is a really nice guy I met him at the last mini z get2gether and his motors fly. He makes every motor by hand so it make take a while to get one of these but it'll be definately worth it.

cashdog144

10-31-2003, 10:55 PM

How much do the nml motors cost?

TwizteD

11-01-2003, 06:35 PM

can u get these motors now 4 the mini Z...if thats the case ill just put 1 of them in my X-Mod...i got the mini Z-X-Speed in there now

MicroRCEngineering

11-02-2003, 05:53 AM

MicroRCEngineering

11-02-2003, 05:56 AM

Don't waste your time on that, bro.

Sorry for not being able to reply. I've been getting emails in the hundreds.

Here's an update:

The motor I made last week, was focused on the 4wd tranny, so that drifting will be made easy. Power? Of course, more power than Stage 2.

I am now focusing on a motor for the 2wd tranny. Unfortunately, in electric cars, there is always a compromise. This will have more top speed, compared to the 4wd motor.

Because I've used all of my motor supplies for the SSV.2 motors for the Mini Zs, I will have to take pre-orders.

I haven't decided on the price yet, but I will post it this coming week. Thanks guys, for the inquiry. I'm also continously coming with new designs, which is another reason why I haven't introduced it yet to the public. My apologies for saying that it was going out last Sunday. But, I'd rather delay than give people my second best. When I introduce it, it means that it's the best motor I can possibly make for the Xmod. If I can do it with the Mini Z's, I can do it with the Xmods. I ask for your patience, guys. Thanks in advance.

token5gtd

11-02-2003, 04:27 PM

:D i cant wait dude

nosser

11-02-2003, 04:40 PM

trust me man it's worth the wait..

NML get me on a waiting list I need some power and until I get something faster I'll stick with my mini z. But don't get me wrong I love my xmod.

token5gtd

11-02-2003, 05:06 PM

speaking of wating list, get me on there too plz, i havnt gotten my xmod yet, but i been lookin at them and these forums so much i pretty much know how to rebuild them, lol

Heat

11-02-2003, 08:38 PM

yea i want in on that waiting list...price doesnt matter as long as it's reasonable.

TwizteD

11-02-2003, 11:46 PM

why cant wejust put the mini z motors hes makin now in there

MicroRCEngineering

11-03-2003, 03:25 AM

GOOD & EXCITING News!!

I wanted to make sure that all my bases are covered, so I tried all mini Zmotors including my SSV.2's. I also tried Tamiya armatures, which I will explain later.

Let's just say, leave the Mini Z & Tamiya motors where they belong.

There are some motors for the Mini Z that is a tad bit better than the Stage 2, but as always, I want to make sure that whatever I come up with, it is always something better than what's available.

Basically, it's for those who want the absolute. We did a test run today, and I can only tell you guys that the Stage10 will blow your mind away!!

It is wicked! You will need to run it in a big area, for the motor just doesnt seem to top out, BUT acceleration is more than excellent. Tests were done with Stage 2 Yellow Gears, which is the 10 tooth pinion. This is slightly above mid level, in terms of gear ratio.

The difference is like a car going 90 mph, with no more RPM to give, engine about to blow, and here's stage 10, not even at the top gear, ZOOMING BY!

Videos will soon be available as living proof that NML Motors will always stand above the rest. Please go to www.xmodworld.com for vids, coming soon!!!

Also, please note that the motors I make are intended for 4wd. This is 4wd, guys, and there's a lot more resistance due to the added gears on the front, but the speed, you just have to see for yourself.

I will make 5 motors this week. First come first serve. PLUS, you get tips on how to make your Xmod FLY!!

First 47.00 takes the following: Handwound motor, drift kit, and a special surprise for both you and the racer next to you. Let's just say he won't know who or what he's up against. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

PhillyB

11-03-2003, 03:41 AM

sign me up - when can i paypal - id like to reserve one now

Heat

11-03-2003, 08:25 AM

yea sign me up too i emailed you about the shipping prices to canada.

strezw153

11-03-2003, 01:39 PM

Sign Me up too~!That is awesome~!!
I'm gonna pay you through Paypal.
Just let us know.;)

Murcielago659

11-03-2003, 02:09 PM

From that video it doesn't seem that much faster than mine with just the stage 2... I'll have to see more before I decide to get one.

TwizteD

11-03-2003, 02:10 PM

sign me up ...can i buy through paypal

MicroRCEngineering

11-03-2003, 04:47 PM

Hi guys,

All five preorders have been spoken for. I'm willing to take the preorders between my post between this one and the one prior.

You guys will be in awe!! That's all I can say. All motors will be numbered, and 1 - 5 are taken already taken.

token5gtd

11-03-2003, 05:14 PM

i def want one, im not exactly sure how ill pay, paypal or w/e, i never used i before, but keep me on ther plz

nosser

11-03-2003, 07:37 PM

Murcielago659 what video are you talking about I haven't seen any video with a stage 10 by NML.

token5gtd

11-03-2003, 07:43 PM

yea, i looked on that site too, i didnt see a video

sessiz10

11-03-2003, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by nosser
Murcielago659 what video are you talking about I haven't seen any video with a stage 10 by NML.

Same here.
I would like to see a video of this motor in action though. It would be nice to see what I'm getting.
The only video I've seen so far is of a hatchback with a AAbat mod.

Heat

11-03-2003, 08:17 PM

i think he misinterpreted that video for one with the nml motor in the car. that would explain why he's not too impressed with it since aa batts wont make the car run faster...just longer.

PhillyB

11-03-2003, 10:34 PM

so preorder? just let me know when to paypal - also where to send paypal

malform

11-04-2003, 10:29 AM

What? AA batts have more volts right? So more volts = more speed.

Heat

11-04-2003, 11:08 AM

aa batts and aaa batts are both 1.5 volts...aa batts have more capacity = more run time.

catman25

11-04-2003, 11:11 AM

nihm recharges have 1.2

3series takumi

11-04-2003, 01:24 PM

aa have a higher amp rating than aaa. volt x amp = current. the total current runs the car so aa should be faster than aaa

Heat

11-04-2003, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by catman25
nihm recharges have 1.2

aa and aaa alkalines have 1.5v
aa and aaa nimahs have 1.2v

so their charge is the same.

and for the other post...the different between them is ampere-hour capacity. the higher it is, the longer it runs. that's why a lot of things take both aa and aaa batteries cuz the difference is just the duration of it. i'm looking at this chart thing from batterieswholesale and it's telling me this. also, aa batteries weigh more so it would slow the car down. u can also refer to other batteries such as the nimahs from toyeast for bit char-g's. it only gives longer run times and does not make ur car go faster. which is why when i run my bits with a 100mah nimah battery it is as fast as a 200mah battery.

malform

11-04-2003, 03:54 PM

mmmm, i see... and here i was thinking about putting 4 aa's in my xmod, like a sucker :\

3series takumi

11-04-2003, 03:54 PM

im not talkin about the mAh rating, i know thats capacity. i am talkin about actual output bud. if you have ever ran a micro rs4 on 5aaa then on 5aa you can easily see that it will run faster with the aa cells if you run with 5 a cells it will be way faster than the aa or aaa cells. cause the internal amp output is different on all the cell types (not the mAh). most r/c cells have the capacity as well as the amp output. aaa and aa usually dont.

3series takumi

11-04-2003, 03:57 PM

also, i tested my rs aaa cells and they are puttin 8amps out. my aa are puttin 12amps and the 2/3a cells (i havent tested) claim that they will put out 30amp with no drop on load

Heat

11-04-2003, 04:17 PM

ooo u mean the discharge rate. my bad, yea it discharges faster but then u need a higher torque motor since they weigh a lot more than aaa batteries. the discharge is 3 times faster or around like 20 minutes but it is not that helpful in an xmod cuz it disrupts the balance in the car. might cause the wheels to dip.

Heat

11-04-2003, 04:18 PM

but i might get 1/3 aaa batteries instead but i dunno if the board can take it

token5gtd

11-04-2003, 10:33 PM

DUDE, I SAW THE VIDEO that thing hauls SERIOUS @$$. Dude, im def gettin one, reserve me one please, i dunno how ill pay if i have to get it to u via US Mail, im GETTIN ONA DESE.

token5gtd

11-04-2003, 10:35 PM

btw NML, you rock dude. haha, whats ur AIM screenname dude, if u wanna keep it discreet, token5gtd@earthlink.net

Murcielago659

11-04-2003, 11:01 PM

I thought the vid on the site he linked to was the car, but it appears I'm wrong. I have seen the real vids myself, and I am quite impressed. However I can't afford one till after christmas, so I won't be ordering one yet.

strezw153

11-04-2003, 11:40 PM

I saw the two of Crazy RSX video and was in huge awe as you told us.

Crazy_RSX.wmv (http://www.xmodworld.com/albums/album05/Crazy_RSX.wmv)
Crazy_RSX2.wmv (http://www.xmodworld.com/albums/album05/Crazy_RSX2.wmv)

Really impressive sir.. :)
Okay~now How can we pay you for the NML kit?
I'm willing to pay you through Paypal.
Just let us know.

My e-mail address is
strezw153@hotmail.com

xmodsrule

11-06-2003, 01:21 PM

I SAW A SWEET STAGE 20 MOTOR ON EBAY ITS LIKE $106.00 LOL YAH RIGHT LOL ;)

token5gtd

11-06-2003, 03:00 PM

dude, seriously, u gotta be (BC EDIT: Word removed.).

BC EDIT: Please do not use innapropriate language with or without symbols.

EMX

11-09-2003, 09:14 AM

Has anyone recieved the stage 10 motor from this guy?

if so, please post your thoughts.

strezw153

11-09-2003, 01:43 PM

I haven't received any e-mail from the guy.
I guess he doesn't want sell the motor after all??:mad:

token5gtd

11-09-2003, 04:29 PM

yea, im still waitin on word from him too.

cmuench

11-10-2003, 09:57 AM

He e-mailed me a few times one on one and agreed to sell me one of the first five. I ordered a stage 10 and sent him my paypal payment. Since then I have heard nothing. I e-mailed him multiple times and still nothing. I will e-mail him one more time....After that I am getting my money back

nosser

11-10-2003, 12:39 PM

give it some time he hand winds all his motors. Once you get it you'll be glad you waited. You have to understand he does this by himself.

sessiz10

11-10-2003, 06:06 PM

I can understand being busy, trust I can empathise, but returning customers' emails should be a priority. I've gotten the same response from nml, as in none besides a mass emailing. He's got my money and not only do I not have my motor yet but I don't even get a freakin reply to my emails. Pretty damn chumpy leaving customers in the dark. Alls I gotta say is I better be happy when I finally get my motor.

nosser

11-10-2003, 08:12 PM

Hey man I understand where you're coming from. try messaging him from the miniztuner site

paul4170

11-11-2003, 10:11 AM

NML has replied to me about my order.. I guess he has been pretty swamped.. he says that the first run of motors will go out on wed. 11/12 so be patient.. i think it WILL be worth its wait in checkered flags..lol my rsx will c ya at the finish line...

cmuench

11-11-2003, 10:35 AM

He got back to me yesterday and everything is cool. he seems like a nice guy who is just getting too many request for this powerhouse.

Heat

11-11-2003, 11:46 AM

well look at it his way sess, look at how many people have been interested in his motor on this board alone. not to mention other boards. also remember this is just an xmod motor. like he said, he makes mini-z motors, and a lot of mini z accessories so if he gets like 50 emails from this board alone regarding xmod motors, he probably gets even more regarding mini-z's. he said he had to get some set up thing to sell to this overseas buyer. apparently that buyer is flying in to pick em up (so obviously it's a huge order if they gonna spend on a plane ticket to pick it up) so he probably spent a lot of time setting that up too. i dunno about u but i'd rather he make the motor and tell after he sends it out than him just telling me he's going to make it but not actually make it cuz he has 1000000 emails to reply to. he also replies to me. i posted on the msg board once and he emailed me back with a personal response. albeit a few days later but at this point i dont really care...as long as i get the motor and the whole package cuz i'm one of the first 5. he said he's mailing everything out tomorrow cuz today is veterans day and post office is closed.

EDIT: o yea he mentioned something about checking all orders and issuing them based on the order the money came to him in. so i think he's trying to get all of the first 5 orders in first before he sends it out. that would help him keep track of who gets the special package deal and who doesnt since he said only the first 5 do. if that is the case, my bad cuz i sent money order which took a longer time to get to him. he has it now so there shouldnt be much more of a problem.

token5gtd

11-11-2003, 06:36 PM

the easiest wat to get up with him is to e-mail him personally and ask him to hold one for you

sessiz10

11-11-2003, 07:36 PM

@heat- I have been looking at it from his point of view. This is why I haven't really gotten pissed off and asked for a refund.

Microfied

11-12-2003, 06:19 PM

Such DRAMA going on with this NML dude. I bet he is busy as hell he has had so many requests that its crazy....Im not to happy for the price these things are going for though..:(

cmuench

11-18-2003, 09:59 AM

I got one word for it. Wow.... I disassembled a stage two motor (RIP) for the 11 tooth and the connector. I got it together last night and after a few tweaks got it running. The thing is so fast that i destroyed my stock front end. the drawback is that it does have a little lag and eats the batteries like no other. tonight I am going to try to compensate by connecting the 6 cell mod with it. I will let you know what the results are

Microfied

11-18-2003, 06:41 PM

Nice!!! post some videos as well and pictures!

cmuench

11-19-2003, 08:22 AM

Yeah I am definetly going to get some pics up this week and hopefully some video this weekend if I have time

ddawg834

11-20-2003, 09:57 PM

can anyone tell me how much faster the stage 10 motor goes. is it really worth the money that u pay for it. please tell me.

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cmuench

11-21-2003, 11:51 AM

its pretty quick, definetly alot faster than the stage twos. I would say it was worth it in my opinion. BTW I have not forgotten the pics and video. will post pics today and possibly video this weekend

strezw153

11-24-2003, 08:55 PM

I'm having trouble with disassembling the pinions from my 2nd stage motor.
Could anyone tell me the best way to get the pinions off?
Please let me know ASAP!!!
:mad:

cmuench

11-25-2003, 08:11 AM

Theres a few things you can do....

A. Buy a pinion puller
B. try to find a pick that will fit the diamieter of the hole, find two pieces of metal and post them between the pinion and the motor, then just hammer out the pinion with the pick and a small hammer.
C. super heat the pinion, since brass heats faster it should expand and come off. Be careful not to burn yourself when taking off the pinion.

Shelby_HEMI

12-21-2003, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by cmuench
I got one word for it. Wow.... I disassembled a stage two motor (RIP) for the 11 tooth and the connector. I got it together last night and after a few tweaks got it running. The thing is so fast that i destroyed my stock front end. the drawback is that it does have a little lag and eats the batteries like no other. tonight I am going to try to compensate by connecting the 6 cell mod with it. I will let you know what the results are

I AM DESPERATE FOR MORE SPEED!!!!!!!! What did you do to the motor? (The 11 tooth is the blue Top Speed motor, right?)

nosser

12-22-2003, 02:18 AM

I just saw NML at my lhs and he showed me his new xv motor on seven cells and that thing was rediculous! the xv for sure is worth every penny and the xv motor is supposed to be faster than a stage 10

MicroRCEngineering

12-22-2003, 02:47 AM

Hi Nosser,

It was a pleasure seeing you yesterday, bro. Small Hobby world. hehe.

Thanks for the compliments.

I ended up caving in for the Mini T. After looking at that guy's Mini T, I had to get one. I look forward to seeing you and queso on our next Xmod/Mini Z get together. Maybe this time, we can also have an Overland/Mini T get together (G2G). :)