for those of you who have them...

[richh]

can those of you who are lucky enough to have received your SE chime in here about how your steering is? in particular, does your front wheels stutter and does the car turn smoother in one direction than the other? mine has these problems, saw some others with it as well. just trying to get an idea on how widespread this issue is.

thanks,

[dr1zz]

you can adjust both the steering trim under the chassis and the trim on the controller

mine came stuttering outta the box, i tried to center the controller trim first........cuz that only turns maybee 2 turns

the alignment under the chassis turns alot.......i centered that then turned the wheel on the controller.......visibly you can see how much you need to adjust.....keep on turning until your car drives straighter.......then back to the controller trim

after about 20 minutes of adjusting, i got the stuttering to stop and it turns evenly both directions

[Namuna]

Ahhhhh, the dr1zz speaks wise words!

Same situation with mine, I'll definately give the adjustment under the car a shot now too (I was only fidgeting with the steering trim on the controller).

[dr1zz]

the steering trim on the controller makes big adjustments...

the chassis steering alignment is the fine tuning one..

my second one outta the box was bad....
had to bust out the soldering iron.....but at least a got a few shots of the guts i guess.....

i adjusted the chassis aligntment first just by turning the car off then on, and turning the screw.......turn off and on and see if it was visbly closer to center........all this without the controller on, and the car has to have some kinda charge :D it doesnt have to be perfectly center yet, but close is good...

then turn the controller on, adjust your controller trim til you drive somewhat straight......and then finally adjust the chassis steering alignment til it drives as perfect as you want

[airline2]

thats the only [roblem with them

[ridealot100]

same here my stearing does the same but thats not to bad . i mean nothing could make the s e look bad except for how high up the body sits on the chassis

[Bad Company]

Anyone else notice the bottom of the chassis is slightly twisted? Both of mine appear to be when I look down it towards the front. This explains the problem I have with the left front wheel not touching on take-off.

[racemini89]

i noticed those things to i think its the same with all because ridealot100 showed me that his did that to

[verbalkint]

Bad Company

I am on my 3rd SE, first two I ordered, sent one back got the return today, it is twisted as the other two were. However, the new one is twisted way less and the other two even had different varying degrees of twisted-ness.

On the other one I kept, I had to put a thicker tire on the one side to balance out the twist. Works great and doesn't affect steering, however, with the one I got today seeming to run best so far, the other will probably get returned too.

I am STILL stumped on the manual and how to work the alignment on the bottom of the car. If this adjustment in fact fixes the left stutter issue, I am jumpin for joy.

I still don't understand how to work it though, after reading the manual 10 times and reading the previous post here like ten times...:rolleyes:

Also, do NOT try to take the front end apart to shave a bit off the tip top of the knuckle to correct the twist, as it makes it worse, and is why I had to add the thicker tire. Just a friendly warning...;)

[airline2]

they will sell out very fast in the stores

[ridealot100]

and the suspension goes higher up and down on one side for some reason. but as long as it runs straight im happy.

[airline2]

i am the same way

[cowfish_29]

these problems would drive me absolutely insane, even if they did not affect the performance. I'm a perfectionist when it comes to that..:p

[Bad Company]

I posted this in the FAQ thread, but here it is again. Drizz's fix did work for me to get rid of the stuttering and correct my turning issues.

Actually, I just tried it. It's pretty simple, but hard to explain.

Remember one thing. You have turn the car off and back on after every adjustment made to the alignment dial under the chassis. This resets it to the position you just adjusted it to. The controller also has to be on for the car to reset each time.

When you adjust the dial and reset it, you can visually see where the front wheels are and how centered they are. Do this until they appear centered, then test it by driving it.

The dial on the bottom of the chassis has to be turned almost one full turn to see any movement in the wheels.

I just did this, and now the sputtering has stopped and my car turns both directions pretty equally. I assume that the sputtering may be from not having the alignment centered and the servo? having to adjust for this?

I think the key is getting the chassis adjustment centered first.

Credit Drizz for this as he found this out, I only tested and verified it.

I kinda did mine opposite of Drizz, and used the alignment adjustment for the major adjustment, and the steering trim for the minor adjustment.

[airline2]

thanks telling me that

[richh]

well, i messed around with the trim knobs and was not able to get anywhere. the best i can do is maybe 4 steps in one direction and in the other it goes one step, then stuttering, then full right (or was it left). anyway since my car started out tracking straight, won't i end up in the same place after doing the all the adjustments?

it's pretty frustrating cause the propo makes it handles so well turning one direction, but going the other way it always spins out.

by the way, how are you guys returning/exchanging these since they were not bought at the store? do you have to pay to ship it back?

[dr1zz]

well, after messing around with 4 of em.....i realized that finding a spot on the controller trim where it doesnt stutter should be the first step.....im thinking about hot glue to secure it in place

then adjust the car chassis alignment to where it is centered is the next step.....

i got rid of all the stuttering and it drives straight and turns good both directions

now if there was only a way to make the steering wheel less sensitive

[nojodash]

hi all, don't post much but always check the boards for messages! Anyways, here are some things I am having trouble with:
1. on slippery surfaces- tile floors for example, when I turn right, it spins out and going left it is fine...I've messed with the controller trim/chassis adjustments and no matter how I do it, it is messed up...Any fixes for this?
2. My body sits on it all crooked, the right side front and back sits lower than the left side front and back....any ideas of how to remedy this aside from returning it? Also, this may be affecting the handling as well??
3. When I first got it and charged it, it ran for like 7 minutes on 1 charge, now it is only getting about 3 minutes a charge...and yes, I have new batteries! Would using rechargeables be better??
4. The handle is too small for my big hands! Do you think that hole on the bottom of the controller is going to be for some kind of attachment/extension handle to hook onto??
5. My paint job is cracking in spots, especially where you put the tabs in, anyone else's doing this?
6. Turning the wheel slowly to the right, I can visibly see and hear the 'steps', but going to the left, it stutters and then just goes over w/o any 'steps'; doesn't that mean then that it isn't proportional steering to the left? How can this be fixed, I've read about the way to fix it and I've tried but can never find the 'sweet spot', do I just need to keep fiddling or should I return it for a new one??

Lastly, don't get me wrong, these are awesome, but does anyone else who has them sort of still thinks the original Zips are almost just as good as far as the handling and speed? The steering is a lot smoother, but to me it isn't like a major difference..I don't know, but then again, mine might not be set right or it may be goofed up! thanks in advance for any input/suggestions, later, david p.

[Bad Company]

1. The only fix (Drizz) found, and I have had success with is to continue to adjust on the steering alignment and trim as per the directions found in this forum.

2. Most of the first run of cars have twisted chassis'. Look down the bottom of you chassis, and see if it twists towards the front. If not, you may not have the body properly set on the tabs.

3. I never got 7 minutes from mine. I got 5 and still do.

4. The hole in the bottom of the controller is where the mini-screwdriver fits.

5. I have noticed a couple of blemishes, but no cracking.

6. Same as #1.

Lastly, once you get #1 and #6 right, you feel a lot differently about the control. The speed and torque is not as great on the SE's, but these are good for actual racing on a track where you more than likely won't be using 34k and 4.2 motors unless it has long straights and sweeping turns.

[airline2]

i wounder if there will be body kits and stuff that comes before Thanksgiving

[nojodash]

hey all, I went into my local RS today and showed this nice older (probably 60 or so) guy that works there my Zip Zap Se and he was all into it( though I think he wants to try and use some of the components for some super small micro RC Plane he is trying to make!), but anyways, he was really impressed and told me that hopefully by next week they will get these in! I live in Kansas so that is not too far away from Texas where the main warehouse is, right?? Later, David P.
PS- after running these more and more, I am Sold on them, it will be hard to even run my bits anymore, although I will still run my original Zips and my Muscle Machine RC's, but man these are the only WAY TO GO, in my opinion!

ALSO, thanks BC for replying to my ?'s, that helped!

[airline2]

they are very good.

[richh]

ok, here's somethinig else i noticed... the front leds on my car are aimed up as opposed to straight on (maybe 30 degress or so). if i hold the back end of my car up, i get the nice bright headlight pattern on the floor in front of the car. i guess it's because the rx-7 car has pop up lights and they didn't have the room to aim them straight; combination of the leds being too big and the available space for them too small.

on the plus side, i'm thinking that illumination in front of the car will be much better with the other body styles.

[airline2]

the front headligts will shine up to what i have found is 7 ft. high