Thinking about doing some mods to a SE.

[Bad Company]

Actually, I was thinking about removing the light system from one of the SE bodies and transplanting them into another like the new Camaro or something. Also, I was thinking about possibly trying a Laymans 4 cell since the original battery is longer, if it will fit. I've got some questions for the more tech minded people out there. How do you think the extra voltage will effect the motorized steering? Will it be too much for the PCB? I know not much is known yet about these yet, but I don't want to be the first to blow his up! Any ideas?

And yes...for those who know me, I am looking into a wheel mod. It appears to be fairly simple. You remove one screw on the bracket above the knuckles and they look like they will just lift out.

[Geckoboy]

for a wheel mod go with some modifier rims

[Bad Company]

I have done the Modifiers wheel mod on one of my regular Zips and while they look really good, they don't do to well for performance. I'm going to go with something a little more solid like the KIT Racer wheels. They are probably one of the best wheel mods that don't sacrifice performance IMO.

[eman1]

good luck with the mods. I wish they brought your other 4 page post back to this forum, i cant reply with the post being in the other forum. I had more to say, so i posted it on the bitpimps thread that you made.

[Bad Company]

Everything posted over there has to be viewed by a moderator and approved before actually showing up.

[Geckoboy]

so thats y i cant post
well i got a question
do u know if the 05' mustang is aviable yet

[xxspeednplayaxx]

hey ahh5hit, ok u wanted to kno bout the 4cell.. (im currently doin it to my ancient ZZ) ne ways the pcb should hold and ass for steering itll be more responcive and move quiker... hope this helped!

~M1K3

[viperkilla]

hey ahh5hit when did you change your sn to bad company?

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by viperkilla
hey ahh5hit when did you change your sn to bad company?

Out of respect for the forum rules and the other members.

[thelaz71]

I have one question about the se ....like the 150 other guys on this forum(I think you reached celebrity status here) but is that epoxy or something on the pcb to keep us from messing with it?

[Aquarius]

Its probably there to stop other companys from copying their design.

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

Awwww, man! I loved the Ahh5hit name! I thought it was funny and creative at the same time. :p I'm still laughing....
But how did you change your posting name?

[Bad Company]

There is some type of coating painted over the PCB. This will make mods a little bit harder now.

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

A coating?!?
Ok.....RadioShack really doesnt want us modding one...So now I don't want to get one!

[Bad Company]

Yeah, the top of the PCB board has some kind of coating, but the bottom doesn't. Maybe it's just for appearance, or maybe to prevent interfearence.

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

Oh.....but what does bottom on the bottom mean?
Would that coating prevent certain mods?
Thanks.

[airline2]

by the looks of it it will kind of hard to mod anything on the se's

[Bad Company]

SE in disguise....

I think I might use this body, transplant the lights over to it, and cut a T-Top in. I kinda like the existing Savanna wheels on the Camaro, looks like the rally style wheels the real ones have. What do you think?

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

I cann tell it's an SE by the silver centre caps on the wheels.:D

[Geckoboy]

Bad Company,

i love them rims and they do look like rally wheels
do u have the eclipse from the first movie
if u do, (i think)lights would look better in that then the camaro(but then i anit a camaro fan)

[TypeZer0]

jus curious, do the stock tires fit better on teh wheels now or is it still half a mm too narrow? this is y i prefer bitcharg tires, they fit nicer on the wheels

[Bad Company]

The tires fit exactly the same. The only thing I noticed so far is that the Savanna hubcaps are a little tighter fit on the regular Zip rear axles.

[Namuna]

This is probably more of a Mod for the next generation of ZZSE, Something I'd DEFINATELY like to see adjusted (or better yet adjustable) is the controller steering "play".

What I mean by that is the wheel, on the controller, travels 45° and -45° from neutral...BUT to go from Straight to FULL turn is only like +/- 20°. That's just too tight for my taste.

Here's a diagram to better show what I mean. The Black arrow represents Neutral. From Black to either Green arrows is how much the wheel travels...From Black to either Blue arrows though is about how much the full range of propo steering there is (quite tight).

[Bad Company]

Namuna, you wanna be the first to tear apart his controller and see how one might adjust that? :D

You are correct, I have noticed that it doesn't appear to be using the full range of the wheel.

[Namuna]

Well, apparently the 4 screws in the controller isn't the only thing holding it together.

Gonna have to fidget with it some more to figure out how to rip it apart.

[eman1]

Hm. 20* is very small in each direction for steering. thats weird that the wheel keeps going

[airline2]

it is prob some type of glue that is very tuff to get through so the comp can't steal the research

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by Namuna
Well, apparently the 4 screws in the controller isn't the only thing holding it together.

Gonna have to fidget with it some more to figure out how to rip it apart.

You're right, it is held together pretty good. I was able to get it popped open all the way around except near the trim dial.

[gangstermx3]

that ticks me off the se's had to come out when big rc race season is just weeks away so i have no money cuz its all goning in mt rc10 t3:mad:

[sessiz10]

Originally posted by gangstermx3
that ticks me off the se's had to come out when big rc race season is just weeks away so i have no money cuz its all goning in mt rc10 t3:mad:

Maybe we'll see some micro rc competitions spring up.;)

[airline2]

the comp is already behind them

[Bad Company]

A little something I'm working on....

Remember the Skyline....same deal here. Still need to trim the skirts down a bit, but you get the idea. Also going to add a little more to the spoiler.

[Bad Company]

I made these skirts thicker because I'm not going to be able to lower the body enough and still keep the lights installed. I don't want to go thru the hassle of rewiring the lights PCB to the rear of the car.

[oOfrog_BoyOo]

awsome bc i cant wait to see what ya add on to the spoiler caues i dont like the one on there

[skklown]

sweet man!! r u gonna paint it 2?

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by skklown
sweet man!! r u gonna paint it 2?

Yes, it will get a custom paint job. Any suggestions?

[skklown]

red with chrome wheels and chrome spoiler:D !

[ridealot100]

if they sell it a chameleon paintjob woyuld be cool like its purple and it shines blue.


or jet black

or blue and yellow

red and black

the whole paintjob is thre red white and blue stripes(that would be awsome)

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

Flames!
:D
Nice job Bad Company!
A custom bB will come soon...very soon...
It's a clone clear bB and....well.....it was free.
:D

[airline2]

whynot keep it the way it is

[maverick]

hey, about the controller "problem", I don't think it will be easy to fix, because I have a larger r/c with a three step steering, and to adjust the position would require making a new pcb in the controller. I don't have an SE yet because I'm too cheap to pay shipping.

[chrome]

***possible mod***

would it be possible to solder the wires that connect to the lcd pcb to a batt and then you would have a dual cell, but it would be external...do you get what i mean???

[BabyKiller]

why not wire up a switch to swich in between leds and a mA boost to the motor? run the 2 power wires to the motor from the led plug and wire it parrel to the existing connections in turn will create more mA which creates more torque which give the motor the strengnth to turn the gears to turn at a higher rpm

i found a flaw in this in order to do this mod and still be able to switch back to leds you cant solder tothe existing plug im gusseing you might need to make your own plug or get through the coating and solder on the +/- points with a on off switch

[Labmonkey]

Originally posted by Bad Company
You're right, it is held together pretty good. I was able to get it popped open all the way around except near the trim dial.

when you get it open let's see some pics of the guts...i think it may be possible to do what namuna suggests...but i need to be able to see it to verify.

possible problem with the cover....hidden screw under some of the labeling somewhere? just a suggestion , since i have not actually seen the controller.

labmonkey

[Bad Company]

I think what is actually holding it together is the steering wheel might be connected to the backside of the controller cover. I tried to remove the wheel, but it didn't act like it wanted to come off without something cracking or breaking. Gonna wait till I get a couple more controllers before I tear one apart.

[Bad Company]

OK, It wouldn't let me edit the last photo, but anyways...

I trimmed the skirts down and added to the spoiler. I just need to fill in the cracks with putty. Next step.....tab lower that SE chassis.

[Bad Company]

Here is a pic of the body on the chassis lowered. There is not much lowering capablitlies on the SE chassis, with or without the lights PCB board in the body. The main problem is that bigh ole black box on top of the chassis PCB.

[Bad Company]

Here is a comparison with a normal SE chassis. The SE chassis still has the lights PCB, so without that, it could be a tad lower.

[dr1zz]

that looks alot better than stock!!

good work!!

[ron6]

hey Badcompany can you tell me how you made the bottom part of the car and the fin and what did you use to make it and what are the mesurements of it the way it looks is great i would like to have that design on my zipzap if that is ok with you


Thanks:D

[Bad Company]

I don't mind if use it at all, it's not trademarked.....yet. ;) I used styrene sheets and stacked and glued them together. You can use either (3) 20mm sheets or (2) 30mm sheets to obtain the same thickness I have or make you own thickness. I traced the pattern around the body, and did the same for the spoiler, but made that a little larger. I make everything a little big and then sand it down after it is glued to the car.

[airline2]

i think that is not lowered

[Bad Company]

It is...

[airline2]

they look they are the same height

[Bad Company]

ron6, this is the best I can do on my home computer. No Auto Cad here. Theis will give the basic dimensions and you just have to shape it to the contour of the body. Mount the side skirts flush to the inside of the body and mount the front and rear to have the same outside overhang as the side skirts.

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by airline2
they look they are the same height

Look again....

It's not much, but it's the lowest you can go without removing the LED PCB.

[ron6]

Hey bad company thanks for the pics and the dimensions can you tell me where you can get styrene sheets or do you think you can make the parts and mail them to me i would really appreciate it if you can my address is 2579 jenna lane lithia springs GA, 30122.


Thanks:D

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

That is nice, Bad Company....
The stock SE looks like an Off-Road vehicle!

[Bad Company]

You can find styrene at you local hobby shop. Now, if I made them for you, that would take all the fun out of it, and the feeling of accomplishment you your part. It's really not hard.


airline2:

The car is more lowered in the front than the rear because of the black box on the PCB, and the skirts do give it more of a lowered look, but it is lowered and makes the profile look a lot better than the original which had the body leaning towards the rear.

It will get dropped more once I remove the lights and figure out what that box is and if anything can be done with it.

BTW, I stuck some better photos in the Gallery Forum.

[airline2]

when i get mine tommorow i will keep the body stock

[racemini89]

hey bc any ideas on how to get the lights off

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by racemini89
hey bc any ideas on how to get the lights off

I have a dremel with a very small cutting bit that I'm going to use to cut away at the glue holding them.

[airline2]

how much are the dremel

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by airline2
how much are the dremel

It varies, there are different kits with different accesories.
Dremels @ Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=PROD_META&CNTKEY=misc%2fsearchResults.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@0201694409.1063320151@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccdjadcjgfjmhdhcgelceffdfgidgmn.0&MID=9876&frmSearchStr=dremel)

Had to give a shout out to HD, my wife works there. ;)

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

Link don't work...:(

[racemini89]

what bit a disk

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by Yugo DSC Maxxer
Link don't work...:(

It does for me. Just go to www.homedepot.com and search Dremel. The basic electric kits start at $69.99.

[airline2]

the link works now

[maverick]

ignorant question, but, how do you accomplish a tab lowering?

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

Yup...it does.

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by maverick
ignorant question, but, how do you accomplish a tab lowering?

Tab Lowering (http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11477&highlight=tab+lowering)

It will soon be slightly revised for tab lowering the SE's.

[maverick]

Thanks man, that helps a lot! (although I have yet to get an SE to do it to)

[airline2]

what is tab lowering

[cowfish_29]

Originally posted by airline2
what is tab lowering



scroll up ^^ :p

[maverick]

BC, you did do a tab lowering mod, right?

[Yugo DSC Maxxer]

Yup, he did.

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by maverick
BC, you did do a tab lowering mod, right?

Actually, I am in the process of doing it on this one. I removed the existing tabs already, but I haven't mounted new tabs. (It's just sitting on the chassis and held on because the skirts make a tight fit.) I am going to remove the light system so I can lower it more, and then I will mount the new tabs at that point. The light system is going in another body.

[Bad Company]

I have removed the light system successfully. There are some little tabs that have to be cut under the body. I removed those to get maximum lowering capability. The lights were real easy to remove too. The really just popped off with a little prying with a small screwdriver.

[Bad Company]

Here is the body lowered as far as it can go. I removed the front lights and will fill it in. I'm thinking about added a little to the sides of the spoiler to make it overhang a little.

The good thing is I don't even have to dremel the fenders to have steering clearance in the front.

[Bad Company]

Compared to stock...

Look lowered now airline2?

[Bad Company]

Another...

[kwikbb]

Dead Sexy!

Now, RS are we taking notes? That's how a ride should umm... ride, low n' lean

Lovely :cool:

[aaronjs04]

That looks sweet man! I see you cut off the pop up lights. Did you use the dremel for that?

[aaronjs04]

Originally posted by Bad Company
Here is a pic of the body on the chassis lowered. There is not much lowering capablitlies on the SE chassis, with or without the lights PCB board in the body. The main problem is that bigh ole black box on top of the chassis PCB.

Hey BC can you show a picture of how you did the tab lowering?

[vtheo]

i am normal not a fan for body mods, but i might have to do this one, exept with a lancer body... looks sick(darn it now i will feel stupid when i make fun of the lowered just for looks not for prefomance rice burners) man thats looks awesome, i could go on and on....:D

[Bad Company]

I actually haven't done the complete tab lowering yet. All I have done is remove the existing tabs. It's such a tight fit, the body actually stays in place with out any tabs. I will add some, but they will have to be really small, something like 1/32". You can see here how tight of a fit it is when you push the chassis up in the body (even without the existing tabs).

[Bad Company]

Yes, I used a dremel to remove the pop up lights. I went ahead and made a new spoiler. Now to paint this puppy.

[BabyKiller]

DUDE now put them lights on a older body

[ridealot100]

no doubt about it you make the dumbest cars look the best. you are the best modder period when it comes to looks

Great Job on that savanna i wish i could do somthn like that without destroying it:rolleyes:

[racemini89]

bc, i got the lights out but do you no how to get the lights in reg. zip bodys

[vtheo]

no offense to bc, but have you seen sinned's work? he just doesnt mod bodies, he makes them look like completly different cars.... its amazing. I really like this mod, it one of the best modded bodys that still looks like the source body :p

Also i think that you new sn bc is better, when i first saw your old one i was thinking that you were a person that wasnt much help to the board, except to flame people.... boy have you proved me wrong...... i am still figureing out who this is helpful...... lets see another wheel mod :D if i didnt mess up the steering every time i opened it i might be willing to do this....

[racemini89]

the front lights

[racemini89]

heres the back

[Bad Company]

Nice job racemini89!

I have seen sinned's work, and I can't even come close to touching him, only his fellow Germans could.

I have never been the type of person to flame or disrespect anyone, that was just a name I choose a long time ago because I thought it was funny and I have used it for mostly everything I can get away with it.

[vtheo]

I see that now... i when i saw on of your wheel mods i was like :eek: and you kept on coming with them.... and with hind sight i wonder why i even posted that thing about sinned, oh well what done is done.....

Awesome Racemini looks good, i cant wait till i get mine

[Bad Company]

Well, thanks for the compliments! Sinned is talented for sure. I only do simple body mods. I don't have the patience to do what he does. As for wheel mods. I 've kinda run out of new ones, until they release some new diecasts at least. I've been thinking about doing my own custom ones though.

[cowfish_29]

:eek: :eek: :eek:
That's amazing! It looks factory...the sexy kind! good job! Can't wait for paint/wheels...if ya got plans..

Does it look like there would be room for a Li-Poly setup in the SE?

EDIT: i'm also not feelin' the way the headlights turn on and off when you stop and go...might just be me though.

[MicroSpeed]

Exellent work BadCompany, Exellent work!! I had an Idea though, what if you left the headlights (still in down position) empty, and put clear lenses over them, then you could rig up some sort of space saving led system, and have headlights through the clear lenses. I dont get what I'm saying so heres a picture to show you what I mean. This is what I plan on doing to my BCG RX-7 body. \/

[Bad Company]

I actually thought about doing that exact same thing with the existing LED's I removed, but I want to stick them in another body. It may be something I do in the future though.

You will have to move the LED PCB to the rear of the car above the motor and add some wire to the front LED's. You also may not be able to lower the Savanna body as low because the plug for the lights sits right in the front windshield.

[airline2]

i find no need to mod mine

[BabyKiller]

i do i personally need to get that shiat 2.4v battery out and put in 2 seperate 1.2v 200mah cells and have some genius do a max torque mod

[airline2]

i find there is enough speed in mine withe performance motor that comes stock with them

[dr1zz]

Originally posted by airline2
i find there is enough speed in mine withe performance motor that comes stock with them

oh hell no! even with a 4.2 its pretty slow of the line........

[eman1]

Originally posted by dr1zz
oh hell no! even with a 4.2 its pretty slow of the line........

Thats what i heard from bad company. The speed with teh 4.2 is similar to the 28k, but torque is worse :confused:

[tigermask44]

Hey airline2,

Hows about posting some kind of content? Your posts litter this board that add little or nothing to the discussion. Nice work BC, your posts and faqs on the SE led me to get one and I love it.

[MicroSpeed]

I use the 3.4 motor from my Nascar Motorworks (aka ZZ NX) and it goes plenty faster than a 4.2, but in a MS its a different story. Also, I did not get any "lack of torque", on the contrary, the 3.4 beat my friends brand new MotorWorks in a "torque test" (the cars are put nose to nose and you see which car pushes the other to find which has more torque). The only mod I find nessesary is a body kit.

[rfnagel]

Originally posted by tigermask44
Hey airline2,

Hows about posting some kind of content? Your posts litter this board that add little or nothing to the discussion.

Agreed. Makes it quite difficult to wade through the board to find posts that actually have content -:(

[ZipRC]

i see (or at least i think i see) that you dremeled away those lines on the body that were from like bad molding or something. I havent touched the dremel or the airbrush for a month or so :(. anyways, great job, power to ya

[Bad Company]

Actually, I just used sandpaper for the molding lines. I used the dremel to remove the pop up lights and the tabs holding the light system under the body.

[Celicafreak]

Anybody try to get the black goo off yet?

[eman1]

Originally posted by Celicafreak
Anybody try to get the black goo off yet?
In another post a saw a picture with most of the black stuff scratched off.

[Celicafreak]

Got a link...because I saw the picture of the bottom of the board but not the top...

[eman1]

I dont remember what post i saw it in, but i did see a picture of the top scraped off.

[chrome]

did anyone even try to use heat?

[Madcat]

What is the deal with the controller?
Why have they switched they left/right to the left!
Does anyone know if you could get these in NZ? How much do they cost!?

[MicroSpeed]

hey BC, hows the Savana coming along? do you have any more pictures?

[Bad Company]

Originally posted by MicroSpeed
hey BC, hows the Savana coming along? do you have any more pictures?

I haven't been able to do anything here because of the hurricane. I will hopefully get back on this weekend.

[MicroSpeed]

Yeaah, we got some of the hurricane too, power's been going out and coming on every 6 hours or so.

[metsrule119]

BC,

can you show us how you do SE tab lowering?

[Bad Company]

You can use this, but you will have to make adjustments for the new front tab. I haven't had a chance to correct the tutorial for the new SE front tab.

http://www.tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11477&highlight=tab+lowering